Rindmelon Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, saint_seiya_aka_buckethead said: i wouldnt be surprised if this is the actual version with final mix thats on the vinyl. Axls vocals are sorta buried like this with Perhaps Clearly your full of shit lol but thing is I know your name from somewhere way back. Or at least the name your choosing to use, Cd.com maybe? Newgnr? Lourenco's old site? You were involved in something, or someone with that name was and I just can't place it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maystar Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Two songs, and they're both badass! The General sounds real menacing, that orchestra is sampled for short sections instead of being an Intro like we all thought. Axl's vocals are kind of mixed weirdly, it reminds of Oh My God! a bit. Richards comments about the sitar pedal are for The General as well, even though it only gets played a few times. The most perplexing part is the outro, the closing chorus sounds really strange like it's being played through a talk box or something, and the solo is definitely Slash. Monsters uses the orchestra too! The Shacklers Revenge vocals return. The song kind of reminds me of Atlas Shrugged in sections but way darker. There is a section of vocals that sound really different to what we expect from Axl, it's aggressive and screechy but the tone is weird, like he's singing in a different voice. I'm glad that Duff and Slash are willing to cooperate with Axl on stuff like this, cause this really isn't what I'd expect from them musically. These are great, but the mix is bad, we can only hope that is better whenever it officially releases. Sorry for the wall of text, just wanted to post my thoughts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Monsters should have been the single and Perhaps the B-Side 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illusion1987 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 The General sounds like it is part one to Shackler's Revenge....right before he snaps 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_school_gnr_fan Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Monsters is definitely the better of the two. I don’t know what to make of The General after one listen, but I do know it sounds dated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.. Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 Updated with The General lyrics let me know if I'm mistaken somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR4Ever2024 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 So i keep trying to listen where the Orchestral Intro they used in 06-10 is in The General anyone have a clue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcanyon Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, GNR4Ever2024 said: So i keep trying to listen where the Orchestral Intro they used in 06-10 is in The General anyone have a clue? It's used throughout the verses just before chrous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underhardy Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 It just dawned on me that perhaps Axl wanted Monsters to be included at the last minute which may explain the sudden delay. Would explain why it was only marketed as only The General at first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaioAKR Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) I love both (or it, if they're two halves of one song). My favorite GN'R material since TWAT. I listened to these things all day, it's all I could do (pum intended). What intrigues me is... there was is this register of The General And Monster... is it one song with two halves or two songs glued into one? lol I mean, it shouldn't matter, but I'm just curious if Monster is/was Soul Monster. We all thought Soul Monster was an evolved Me & My Elvis, but this is something else. It fits Axl's description of Soul Monster perfectly ("our most Sabbath moment" and "a bridge of pure, unadultered poison" or something like that). Also, let's not forger both The General and Soul Monster were worked on by Beltrami in the same sessions, so it makes sense if the became a single epic song. Very interesting. Hopefully we find out soon enough (and hopefully Monster is also on the vinyl and released on streaming services). Anyway, can't stop listening to both. Very personal, heavy, dark lyrics. Definitely on the money about them being about child abuse. Alluring instrumental. Love Slash's work in these. Killer vocals. What's not to admire? Edited October 28, 2023 by CaioAKR 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson87 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, GNR4Ever2024 said: So i keep trying to listen where the Orchestral Intro they used in 06-10 is in The General anyone have a clue? It's in Monsters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Underhardy said: It just dawned on me that perhaps Axl wanted Monsters to be included at the last minute which may explain the sudden delay. Would explain why it was only marketed as only The General at first. I doubt there is enough space on a 7”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caught_in_a_Coma Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) Monsters > Silkworms (I think this is far better than the final version)> The General > Perhaps > Hardskool > Absurd Songs range from good to excellent, IMO. Edited October 28, 2023 by Caught_in_a_Coma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingBat Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Nick85 said: Slash’s work in Monsters is his best playing in years. I think it’ll stand out even more in the polished official version. It's slick as fuck! I don't know, but i get the impression they completely reworked Hard Skool? And I think it sucked, it sounded like Hollywood Rose, where it should have sounded like Better part 2. Axl is great on that track and everything else, except for the solo, is wank compared to the demo. This sounds like a nugnr track with Slash and duff tastefully adding their input, not completely reworking the songs from the drums up (which they might have done, but it doesn't sound like that, if so, great work!). It's how the CD stuff should be treated and they have done an amazing job on these tracks. Edited October 28, 2023 by DingBat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DownUnderScott Posted October 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 hours ago, GNRRHCP98 said: All of these as one cohesive LP or EP would’ve been 🔥 imo. I have to wholeheartedly agree with you there. If only Axl had of released a CD2 with these songs as an album (8-10 tracks), it would have been so much better rather than dribs and drabs of mis-fired releases over a long period of time. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR4Ever2024 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 God damn that Bridge of Monsters. I think thats the angriest Axl has ever sung. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingBat Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, eggers said: I doubt there is enough space on a 7”. There is enough space, but there is a quality deficit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 The bridge to Monsters reminds me so much of the songs Axl recorded for Sebastion Bach's Angel Down, raspy and angry sounding 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbhutto Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Hopefully after this slow drip arc is over we'll get a comprehensive CD era collection of some sort ( was typing this as the above messages popped up ). CDII would've been a banger as the kids say, Axl had the goods! Here's hoping we eventually hear the rest of the CD era. I will keep my Perhaps vinyl lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caught_in_a_Coma Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, jbhutto said: Hopefully after this slow drip arc is over we'll get a comprehensive CD era collection of some sort ( was typing this as the above messages popped up ). CDII would've been a banger as the kids say, Axl had the goods! Here's hoping we eventually hear the rest of the CD era. I will keep my Perhaps vinyl lol. It's clear a lot of great Chi-Dem era material was left unreleased. Did we just need to be more patient? Did Axl need to compromise a little and release a taste to give people confidence in and patience for CDII? Do Axl, Slash and Duff really have enough left in the tank to make an album that doesn't use Chi-Dem 2 leftovers? Edited October 28, 2023 by Caught_in_a_Coma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRmello77 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Isn't the general supposedly about Axl's experience with abuse in his youth? If so I must say that he really sets the dark desperate tone in how he must have felt going through it perfectly in the song. This is 100% Axl translating his emotions into a song! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, D.. said: Updated with The General lyrics let me know if I'm mistaken somewhere! This is what I hear: Daddy don't I swear I won't I'll be good from now on And I'm awful sorry Daddy don't The hell I won't I won't be good anymore And you'll all be sorry Can anybody tell me Why this pain it just won't stop Can anybody help me This pain it just won't stop My only regret Is that I never took the time to forget All those unspoken feelings That you'll never spare And those who understand it Have your respect And not your sordid meaning Don't know what to tell you now It's never really what they tell you now Don't know what to tell you now It's not really what they tell you now The 2nd chorus is different though, it seems like 'have to show respect'? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlashrose Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Fuckin amazing Monsters is a Killer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRRHCP98 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, DownUnderScott said: I have to wholeheartedly agree with you there. If only Axl had of released a CD2 with these songs as an album (8-10 tracks), it would have been so much better rather than dribs and drabs of mis-fired releases over a long period of time. Exactly! They had more than enough to work with… put in a Duff-led song and maybe a cover or two and boom, album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_seiya_aka_buckethead Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, GNR4Ever2024 said: So i keep trying to listen where the Orchestral Intro they used in 06-10 is in The General anyone have a clue? its everywhere in the song. Use headphones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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