Killing Floor - Slash feat. Brian Johnson

[Naupis]

Song is still chugging along, up to 1.7 million views after 9 days. It has really grown on me and sounds like one of the fresher things I have heard from Slash in a while, which is ironic considering it is a 60 year old cover.

Starting to see reaction videos popping up as well, which is always a sign something is really catching on.

[MaskingApathy]

1 hour ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

Since when was the complaint about SMKC the song arrangement, like ever? I don't recall even reading that once, in all my 8 years on here lol. What complaint you are guaranteed to read every time, and it's the same every time a new album comes out: is that people actually LIKE the music and the songs, but Myles voice is making all the songs sound the same or that it's too whiny for them. No producer song-rearrangement or guidance is going to help fix that for people, and that seems to be the one main reason why people can't get into SMKC.

Some of the songs on 4 could've used a little work on the arrangements, so that they're not all the same. They could've been developed a little more.

[StrangerInThisTown]

2 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

Some of the songs on 4 could've used a little work on the arrangements, so that they're not all the same. They could've been developed a little more.

In the grand scheme of things, if you read what fans of Slash and GNR say stops them from getting into SMKC, that is never brought up. It's like trying to fix a broken table in a house where the ceiling is gone. You'll have a working table, but people still won't want to hang out.

He goes and puts out a single with a different band (and vocalist), reaching close to 2 million views within only 9 DAYS -...what gives? Did he even achieve that in 2010 with his album? If that doesn't speak volumes about what Slash should be doing, then nothing ever will. Let's just say I won't exactly be shocked if Slash sits in his room now scratching his chin after this album and doesn't decide "my song arrangements were an issue before"

Edited March 17 by StrangerInThisTown

[MaskingApathy]

3 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

In the grand scheme of things, if you read what fans of Slash and GNR say stops them from getting into SMKC, that is never brought up. It's like trying to fix a broken table in a house where the ceiling is gone. You'll have a working table, but people still won't want to hang out.

He goes and puts out a single with a different band (and vocalist), reaching close to 2 million views within only 9 DAYS -...what gives? Did he even achieve that in 2010 with his album? If that doesn't speak volumes about what Slash should be doing, then nothing ever will. Let's just say I won't exactly be shocked if Slash sits in his room now scratching his chin after this album and doesn't decide "my song arrangements were an issue before"

I don't think Slash is sitting there counting YouTube views. He's still planning on making a new SMKC record later this year, the blues album isn't going to change that.

[evilfacelessturtle]

6 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

Since when was the complaint about SMKC the song arrangement, like ever? I don't recall even reading that once, in all my 8 years on here lol. What complaint you are guaranteed to read every time, and it's the same every time a new album comes out: is that people actually LIKE the music and the songs, but Myles voice is making all the songs sound the same or that it's too whiny for them. No producer song-rearrangement or guidance is going to help fix that for people, and that seems to be the one main reason why people can't get into SMKC.

Not just arrangement, but also writing. Lange is known for helping write. He actually assembled a lot of the solos on Back in Black from bits of different takes, turning improvised ideas into a cohesive melodic narrative. That's something Slash could really use. In fact, he had it on the song No More Heroes. He said that the producer pushed him to re-write the song and flesh it out more. And the result shows, it's one of the best songs on that album with a solo that has a real sense of direction, actually feels like it was written and not improvised.

Myles is a secondary problem for me. I think Myles would be more inspired if Slash was giving him better songs to work with. From the last two albums, only Fill My World has a good riff. The rest is completely forgettable.

3 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

In the grand scheme of things, if you read what fans of Slash and GNR say stops them from getting into SMKC, that is never brought up. It's like trying to fix a broken table in a house where the ceiling is gone. You'll have a working table, but people still won't want to hang out.

He goes and puts out a single with a different band (and vocalist), reaching close to 2 million views within only 9 DAYS -...what gives? Did he even achieve that in 2010 with his album? If that doesn't speak volumes about what Slash should be doing, then nothing ever will. Let's just say I won't exactly be shocked if Slash sits in his room now scratching his chin after this album and doesn't decide "my song arrangements were an issue before"

You can't ignore that there was hype around this due to the singers of AC/DC and Aerosmith being involved. That kind of thing gets it posted all over the place whereas "oh, another song by this band you've already heard" doesn't.

The AC/DC forums have been abuzz over the song as well. So you have two entire fanbases as a built-in audience.

[Free Bird]

4 hours ago, evilfacelessturtle said:

From the last two albums, only Fill My World has a good riff. The rest is completely forgettable.

You’re trying hard to sell your opinion as a fact, and that’s the biggest issue here. Those records aren’t beloved from the fanbase by any means but it’s still a matter of taste. I love both records and think 4 has some really cool riffs. Many of them I’d prefer to Fill My World.

[Free Bird]

15 hours ago, Naupis said:

Song is still chugging along, up to 1.7 million views after 9 days. It has really grown on me and sounds like one of the fresher things I have heard from Slash in a while, which is ironic considering it is a 60 year old cover.

Starting to see reaction videos popping up as well, which is always a sign something is really catching on.

I wonder if there is any airplay? I haven’t heard it on radio yet. Not that I listen much to radio…

[El Guapo]

1 hour ago, Free Bird said:

I wonder if there is any airplay? I haven’t heard it on radio yet. Not that I listen much to radio…

I heard it a couple of times on German Rock Radio. The General only once. 

[Spoon87]

33 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

I heard it a couple of times on German Rock Radio. The General only once. 

Which station? I have been listening to Radio Bob a lot lately, as they usually praise ACDC as the best thing that ever existed and so I was hoping they'd play the song but I haven't heard it on there yet.

[Free Bird]

1 hour ago, El Guapo said:

I heard it a couple of times on German Rock Radio. The General only once. 

Rockantene and Rocklandradio?

[Ralphelmo]

18 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

In the grand scheme of things, if you read what fans of Slash and GNR say stops them from getting into SMKC, that is never brought up. It's like trying to fix a broken table in a house where the ceiling is gone. You'll have a working table, but people still won't want to hang out.

He goes and puts out a single with a different band (and vocalist), reaching close to 2 million views within only 9 DAYS -...what gives? Did he even achieve that in 2010 with his album? If that doesn't speak volumes about what Slash should be doing, then nothing ever will. Let's just say I won't exactly be shocked if Slash sits in his room now scratching his chin after this album and doesn't decide "my song arrangements were an issue before"

Beautiful Dangerous made 10M in two months.

[El Guapo]

3 hours ago, Spoon87 said:

Which station? I have been listening to Radio Bob a lot lately, as they usually praise ACDC as the best thing that ever existed and so I was hoping they'd play the song but I haven't heard it on there yet.

Rockantenne

[AxlSlashthebest]

On 3/11/2024 at 7:41 PM, El Guapo said:

And Killing Floor is great and The General is shit.

ba ba ba ba. The general is a killer song

[Majestic Beast]

The General is an industrial shitsong,Killing Floor a catchy coversong.

[Free Bird]

4 hours ago, El Guapo said:

Rockantenne

Did they commented it in any way?

[StrangerInThisTown]

22 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

I don't think Slash is sitting there counting YouTube views. He's still planning on making a new SMKC record later this year, the blues album isn't going to change that.

You can believe that, but in the year 2024 I will believe it's not really realistic to think he won't check something that is so instant and easy to look up, especially for an older guy in his 50s who isn't preoccupied with partying and drinking. He can't lay in bed with Megan in the evening, and check on his phone literally within 30 seconds how well his new single is doing? Especially since it's a new project. I think you're still thinking it terms of older life and not in terms of a realistic life of people in the 2020's. And EVEN if not, probably no single he released has garnered that much attention and so quickly in probably 14 years, trust me he knows and if he didn't he was told by somebody, even if he doesn't follow it himself.

If the album really takes off in terms of popularity and how it does, he WILL know. If he really wanted to just crap something out on the side and wasn't really interested in following how it would be doing, he wouldn't have hired Mike Clink who with his credentials can charge artists more to only walk through their door than other producers can charge for an entire session.

All I'm saying is that, after churning out the same WOF clone (and it being worse, with 4 now being the absolute bottom with now newly added crap production) and this new album looking like it's going to completely overshadow the last SMKC singles in terms of success, that maybe it would now be somewhat time to wake up and smell the coffee.

Edited March 18 by StrangerInThisTown

[StrangerInThisTown]

22 hours ago, evilfacelessturtle said:

Not just arrangement, but also writing. Lange is known for helping write. He actually assembled a lot of the solos on Back in Black from bits of different takes, turning improvised ideas into a cohesive melodic narrative. That's something Slash could really use. In fact, he had it on the song No More Heroes. He said that the producer pushed him to re-write the song and flesh it out more. And the result shows, it's one of the best songs on that album with a solo that has a real sense of direction, actually feels like it was written and not improvised.

Myles is a secondary problem for me. I think Myles would be more inspired if Slash was giving him better songs to work with. From the last two albums, only Fill My World has a good riff. The rest is completely forgettable.

You can't ignore that there was hype around this due to the singers of AC/DC and Aerosmith being involved. That kind of thing gets it posted all over the place whereas "oh, another song by this band you've already heard" doesn't.

The AC/DC forums have been abuzz over the song as well. So you have two entire fanbases as a built-in audience.

With the numbers 4 did and still has on streaming, it really wasn't good, even compared to LTD where Driving Rain could be considered an actual hit for the band. I don't see Slash investing so much money in a world wide known producer like that on a side project of his that isn't doing well.

It will be autopilot from here on out probably with Michael Baskette returning to copy the exact same album again and ending with a worse clone again, especially if both, GNR stuff and now the blues band does better. SMKC will be relegated to be a complete time-filler for time when he has nothing else to do, his heart has not been in it since the GNR reunion happened. I believe we have heard all of SMKC in terms of creativity because it has been downhill since Slash has had more projects, and now he has something else even on top of GNR happening.

Edited March 18 by StrangerInThisTown

[DoMw94]

18 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

All I'm saying is that, after churning out the same WOF clone (and it being worse, with 4 now being the absolute bottom with now newly added crap production) and this new album looking like it's going to completely overshadow the last SMKC singles in terms of success, that maybe it would now be somewhat time to wake up and smell the coffee.

This undoes your entire argument.

If he cared what people thought or were saying, he wouldn't be "churning out the same WOF clone", as you put it. He obviously does what he wants to do and isn't swayed by the fanbase – if he was Myles would be long gone. SMKC (and his other solo venture) is his artistic vehicle, it's not there for him to make money or gain attention. He has GN'R for that.

He absolutely isn't checking views or streaming numbers. Nobody of Slash's stature will really (they have management and staff for that), but Slash especially won't be.

For the record, I don't agree. I like SMKC, Myles, and each of the albums (4's production aside)

Edited March 18 by DoMw94

[StrangerInThisTown]

46 minutes ago, DoMw94 said:

This undoes your entire argument.

If he cared what people thought or were saying, he wouldn't be "churning out the same WOF clone", as you put it. He obviously does what he wants to do and isn't swayed by the fanbase – if he was Myles would be long gone. SMKC (and his other solo venture) is his artistic vehicle, it's not there for him to make money or gain attention. He has GN'R for that.

He absolutely isn't checking views or streaming numbers. Nobody of Slash's stature will really (they have management and staff for that), but Slash especially won't be.

For the record, I don't agree. I like SMKC, Myles, and each of the albums (4's production aside)

I mean, look: he is churning out the exact same album because that is what worked before, it's the safe space where not a lot of thought has to be put into it. The problem is just that while he can copy the sound and formula, the songs just aren't there since GNR reunited. That would be a pretty big coincidence if it was for another reason ..no? 15 absolutely great songs on WOF to the downgrade of the century of maybe only 3 or 4 on LTD, and then even less on 4, is that the trajectory he should be following? And the streaming numbers reflect it when even a real deep cut like Dirty Girl has TRIPLE the streams of a lead single like River Is Rising.

Like I said before you too can believe he doesn't look at that on his phone. But that seems incredibly unrealistic to me for life in 2024. As a person having lived life in 2024, with your smartphone constantly in your hands, how can you honestly say that, he surely didn't check in on the charts back in 1987 when MTV was the Youtube of the time, but now it's the other way around where you can have the Youtube App on your homescreen and look up anything within 30 seconds or less, especially when you've just launched a new project for the first time since 2010.

And like I said before also, even if he himself doesn't check it, he has been TOLD by now how the numbers haven't been this high since probably his 2010 album.

And third, what exactly don't you agree with? I too like SMKC, Myles and each of the albums. That doesn't mean I think that the albums have been getting better, which is what I've been saying the entire time. Do we want Slash to further go downhill instead of realizing his full potential? On my money, you can bet your ass nothing better will be happening with SMKC after the last 2 albums, and on the third time around since GNR reunited. He needs to focus on a different thing again and maybe return to doing SMKC after that.

Edited March 18 by StrangerInThisTown

[StrangerInThisTown]

6 hours ago, AxlSlashthebest said:

ba ba ba ba. The general is a killer song

Yes, it makes me want to put a rope around my neck blasting it. Absolutely killer

[evilfacelessturtle]

19 hours ago, Free Bird said:

You’re trying hard to sell your opinion as a fact, and that’s the biggest issue here. Those records aren’t beloved from the fanbase by any means but it’s still a matter of taste. I love both records and think 4 has some really cool riffs. Many of them I’d prefer to Fill My World.

How am I doing that?

[evilfacelessturtle]

1 hour ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

With the numbers 4 did and still has on streaming, it really wasn't good, even compared to LTD where Driving Rain could be considered an actual hit for the band. I don't see Slash investing so much money in a world wide known producer like that on a side project of his that isn't doing well.

It will be autopilot from here on out probably with Michael Baskette returning to copy the exact same album again and ending with a worse clone again, especially if both, GNR stuff and now the blues band does better. SMKC will be relegated to be a complete time-filler for time when he has nothing else to do, his heart has not been in it since the GNR reunion happened. I believe we have heard all of SMKC in terms of creativity because it has been downhill since Slash has had more projects, and now he has something else even on top of GNR happening.

I agree, there is only one song from the last two albums I added to my playlist (or even listened to more than once), and that's Fill My World.

I just really hope this is due to the good material being saved for GNR.

[MaskingApathy]

2 hours ago, DoMw94 said:

This undoes your entire argument.

If he cared what people thought or were saying, he wouldn't be "churning out the same WOF clone", as you put it. He obviously does what he wants to do and isn't swayed by the fanbase – if he was Myles would be long gone. SMKC (and his other solo venture) is his artistic vehicle, it's not there for him to make money or gain attention. He has GN'R for that.

He absolutely isn't checking views or streaming numbers. Nobody of Slash's stature will really (they have management and staff for that), but Slash especially won't be.

For the record, I don't agree. I like SMKC, Myles, and each of the albums (4's production aside)

Yes 100%

2 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

SMKC will be relegated to be a complete time-filler for time when he has nothing else to do, his heart has not been in it since the GNR reunion happened.

This is absolutely not true. If his heart wasn't in it he wouldn't be on tour with them right now.

[Free Bird]

On 3/17/2024 at 8:00 PM, DoMw94 said:

The drum sound really ruins it for me sadly

Which one?

[Free Bird]

4 hours ago, evilfacelessturtle said:

How am I doing that?

Well, with the words you’re choosing.