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On 7/22/2020 at 4:22 PM, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Depends what kind of Liberalism you are talking about. Today's Republicans are what they call Classical Liberalism. Today' Liberals are basically socialist  regressive.

You say Lefties as the 1960s peace and love hippie movement.

You have no idea what you're talking about. soon is owning you all over this thread and you're too clueless to see. Of course if you had a clue you wouldn't be a right winger. 

 

On 7/22/2020 at 4:32 PM, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Obviously because they would never win another election why do you think they screwed over Burnout? Trump would be like 20 points ahead of Bernie if he was the nominee instead of Grandpa Joe.

I have no doubt in my mind that AOC is the future of the Democrat party thats why Joe, Nancy, Chuck and the rest are holding on to power for dear life. and joe doesn't even know he is running for President he is walking trojan horse.

 

Wrong again. Bernie would have trounced Dump.

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10 hours ago, bigpoop said:

You have no idea what you're talking about. soon is owning you all over this thread and you're too clueless to see. Of course if you had a clue you wouldn't be a right winger. 

 

Wrong again. Bernie would have trounced Dump.

Hey mom i called Trump Dump lol.   You are a delusional Commi. Bernie would have been trounced because he is an octogenarian communist who hates America.

How old are you 12?

 

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On 7/26/2020 at 2:05 AM, TOS--LOA said:

I respect Axl's opinion. Right or wrong he's always had well thought out reasons for his various stances. Also it's obvious that he's matured a lot throughout his life and has moved past some of his more childish views. 

However, if Axl thinks it’s cool to elect a man with actual dementia into the office then he is a bit narrow minded. Biden is not mentally fit to be left alone unattended much less be in the most stressful job on Earth. 

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1 hour ago, Blackstar said:

I guess he thinks, like many other people who have to choose between the two, that even someone with dementia is better than Trump :lol:

My point is using a person who clearly has dementia and placing any type of demands on such a person is sick. Much less the demands of running for President. If there are live debates Biden is going to get smoked by Trump and that will be gross to witness. 

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I think a lot of the "Biden has dementia" people are running with the fact that Biden grew up with a stutter and sometimes fumbles over words in his life due to that.  You can disagree with his policies or statements but there is no indication of him not being all there mentally

Which is why to me it is funny how the right uses the "Biden is old and not mentally there" argumentative tactic when Trump is going and delivering the most incoherent, classless, logically-deficient press conferences and interviews in US history right now.  If anyone needs proof of said incoherent rambling look up his recent "Axios" interview in full because there are some legitimately scary things in that interview

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19 hours ago, WhazUp said:

I think a lot of the "Biden has dementia" people are running with the fact that Biden grew up with a stutter and sometimes fumbles over words in his life due to that.  You can disagree with his policies or statements but there is no indication of him not being all there mentally

Which is why to me it is funny how the right uses the "Biden is old and not mentally there" argumentative tactic when Trump is going and delivering the most incoherent, classless, logically-deficient press conferences and interviews in US history right now.  If anyone needs proof of said incoherent rambling look up his recent "Axios" interview in full because there are some legitimately scary things in that interview

I think this is  a big problem with Trump supporters in regards to disability issues. Monday night and yesterday morning, I was verbally attacked by a Trump supporter on Facebook. A high school acquaintance posted a question regarding the electability of Biden. My high school acquaintance  is a big time Trump supporter. I mentioned  that Biden can win the election. I was then asked why. I stated Trump doesn't have leadership skills. One of his friends/acquaintance  made an ambiguous remark about my profile picture and started to verbally attack me for no reason. The verbal attack went further than your typical insult of disagreeing with someone. He and I exchanged insults. As the argument grew, other people that I knew defended me. One person stated  that the person attacking me was doing so due  to my disability and it was starting to become obvious.  As it turned out, the guy attacking me pretty much admitted that he was doing so  due to my disability.  My high school acquaintance apologized to me in a private message as a result. 

Biden has a stutter, which is can be a disability issue. 

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20 hours ago, DurhamGirl said:

Dementia?  Where does this come from, let me guesss....

'Biden is going to get smoked'; have you been listening to Trump for the last three months (well the whole of his tenure really) he is obviouusly a fool with no skill of articulation.  Are you aware of how the rest of the world see this man, most people are aghast that US has voted in such a  fly by nightl as their President, a most esteemed role (to many not all).  He scares me, truly, especially now in the present situation of a changing world which needs considered and intelligent leaaders (I know, Boris is not that spectacular :max:). 

As an American, I'm deeply concerned that if Trump gets reelected, the United States of America will not survive. 2020 has proven that the office of the President of the United States is just too big to handle for Trump.  

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51 minutes ago, Draguns said:

As an American, I'm deeply concerned that if Trump gets reelected, the United States of America will not survive. 2020 has proven that the office of the President of the United States is just too big to handle for Trump.  

You think that the doddering old fool Biden who definitely has dementia can handle it?

You guys have said the same thing about every Republican President since Eisenhower. You all love Bush now since he is not Trump. I am old enough to remember  George W Bush was the great evil. Its fear mongering and scare tactics. In 4 to 8 years when the next Republican comes along it will be the same and y'all will start saying that Trump guy wasn't so bad wasn't it? If  anything the US will fall apart because your side can't handle losing. Its funny people saying Trump wouldn't respect the results of the election and when he won it was the left and liberals who couldn't and still haven't accepted the results 4 years later. If anything he is gonna rant on twitter if he loses and move on with his life.

20 hours ago, WhazUp said:

I think a lot of the "Biden has dementia" people are running with the fact that Biden grew up with a stutter and sometimes fumbles over words in his life due to that.  You can disagree with his policies or statements but there is no indication of him not being all there mentally

Which is why to me it is funny how the right uses the "Biden is old and not mentally there" argumentative tactic when Trump is going and delivering the most incoherent, classless, logically-deficient press conferences and interviews in US history right now.  If anyone needs proof of said incoherent rambling look up his recent "Axios" interview in full because there are some legitimately scary things in that interview

1. No there are not.:lol: I have been hearing "Trump is a dictator" for 4 years now?  He is the worst dictator ever.

2. Look at a video of Biden from over 7 and 10 years ago  then look at a video of him now then get back to me. Why do you think his side doesn't want him to debate Trump?

If anything all this crazy shit going on has red pilled people. Like I used to be a centrist but now I am right wing just because of all the meltdowns in  the news media, twitter and internet. 

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21 hours ago, DurhamGirl said:

Dementia?  Where does this come from, let me guesss....

'Biden is going to get smoked'; have you been listening to Trump for the last three months (well the whole of his tenure really) he is obviouusly a fool with no skill of articulation.  Are you aware of how the rest of the world see this man, most people are aghast that US has voted in such a  fly by nightl as their President, a most esteemed role (to many not all).  He scares me, truly, especially now in the present situation of a changing world which needs considered and intelligent leaaders (I know, Boris is not that spectacular :max:). 

I’ve seen the videos. They are clear as day. I’ve also seen the multiple videos of Biden purposefully groping underage girl and adult women. And all the weird shit he says to women. Yes, Trump lack of articulation is astounding. He truly is the worst in his word choices. Strange for a man with a wealthy education. The rest of the world is garbage politics, too. The system got what it deserved in Trump. And they gonna get four more years because nobody in this country is electing a black female president. 

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44 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

You think that the doddering old fool Biden who definitely has dementia can handle it?

You guys have said the same thing about every Republican President since Eisenhower. You all love Bush now since he is not Trump. I am old enough to remember  George W Bush was the great evil. Its fear mongering and scare tactics. In 4 to 8 years when the next Republican comes along it will be the same and y'all will start saying that Trump guy wasn't so bad wasn't it? If  anything the US will fall apart because your side can't handle losing. Its funny people saying Trump wouldn't respect the results of the election and when he won it was the left and liberals who couldn't and still haven't accepted the results 4 years later. If anything he is gonna rant on twitter if he loses and move on with his life.

1. No there are not.:lol: I have been hearing "Trump is a dictator" for 4 years now?  He is the worst dictator ever.

2. Look at a video of Biden from over 7 and 10 years ago  then look at a video of him now then get back to me. Why do you think his side doesn't want him to debate Trump?

If anything all this crazy shit going on has red pilled people. Like I used to be a centrist but now I am right wing just because of all the meltdowns in  the news media, twitter and internet. 

What has Trump done that has benefitted you and the United States? Nothing. All he has done is provide more chaos and division. As a moderate liberal, I  can say that I didn't agree with Regan and Bushes on a lot of things. However, at least Reagan, two Bushes, Clinton, and Obama have provided leadership when there was a crisis. Trump has not done so. He hasn't been doing it with Covid at all. All he does is cry on Twitter instead of doing his job.  

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16 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said:

I’ve seen the videos. They are clear as day. I’ve also seen the multiple videos of Biden purposefully groping underage girl and adult women. And all the weird shit he says to women. Yes, Trump lack of articulation is astounding. He truly is the worst in his word choices. Strange for a man with a wealthy education. The rest of the world is garbage politics, too. The system got what it deserved in Trump. And they gonna get four more years because nobody in this country is electing a black female president. 

Trump bragged that he passed a test for dementia. Why would he take it?  There has to be a reason for him taking a test like that. Someone had to suspect something for him to take a test like that. There's something not right with him. Similar to Nixon, I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out 10-20 years from now that Trump has some mental health issues. 

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4 minutes ago, Draguns said:

W Obama has provided leadership when there was a crisis. Trump has not done so. He hasn't been doing it with Covid at all. All he does is cry on Twitter instead of doing his job.  

Obama was a racebaiter he and Trump are very similar except Trump says the quite part out loud. 

Trump has actually done alot of things for family who are all immigrantCoumus by the way.  He has gotten his judiciary appointed through. did a much better job of economic recovery then Obama which was the slowest ever. My family had several members be able to get their citizenship faster then ever i pay less taxes then I have before and nobody in my neighborhood is getting shot like in Chicago.

You know who also failed at leadership?  Andrew Coumo and Phil Murphy. The states are supposed to respond according to their autonomy. 

4 minutes ago, Draguns said:

Trump has not done so. He hasn't been doing it with Covid at all. All he does is cry on Twitter instead of doing his job.  

Sounds like Trump and the Liberals have a lot more then comen then you think.

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21 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said:

I’ve seen the videos. They are clear as day. I’ve also seen the multiple videos of Biden purposefully groping underage girl and adult women. And all the weird shit he says to women. Yes, Trump lack of articulation is astounding. He truly is the worst in his word choices. Strange for a man with a wealthy education. The rest of the world is garbage politics, too. The system got what it deserved in Trump. And they gonna get four more years because nobody in this country is electing a black female president. 

I agree. But i don't believe race  and gender should matter on who is president  an elected official etc. Whoever would do the best for my family gets my vote and not pandering to the radical left or right.

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2 minutes ago, Draguns said:

Trump bragged that he passed a test for dementia. Why would he take it?  There has to be a reason for him taking a test like that. Someone had to suspect something for him to take a test like that. There's something not right with him. Similar to Nixon, I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out 10-20 years from now that Trump has some mental health issues. 

He doesnt need a test to tell the world he has issues.

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6 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Obama was a racebaiter he and Trump are very similar except Trump says the quite part out loud. 

Trump has actually done alot of things for family who are all immigrantCoumus by the way.  He has gotten his judiciary appointed through. did a much better job of economic recovery then Obama which was the slowest ever. My family had several members be able to get their citizenship faster then ever i pay less taxes then I have before and nobody in my neighborhood is getting shot like in Chicago.

You know who also failed at leadership?  Andrew Coumo and Phil Murphy. The states are supposed to respond according to their autonomy. 

Sounds like Trump and the Liberals have a lot more then comen then you think.

As someone who works in the financial information and news industry, I can assure you that the economy was starting to go well in the last couple of years of Obama's presidency. What Trump did was actually put the economy on steroids for the last two years. We were officially in a recession in February. This was before the lockdown took place. 

How did Governor Murphy and Cuomo fail? I'm curious to hear this one since I live in North NJ. 

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Just now, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Ask all the elderly people who died because Andrew forced them into back into infected nursing homes and all the people that died in your state(which is one of the epicenters)

You do realize there was no Federal leadership, right?!  If you actually lived in this area, you would realize that we got hit very hard. No one knew what to do with this virus.  The NJ/NYC area got hit hard with tourists from Europe. They were already here when Trump instituted the flight ban on China.  

Governor Murphy has raised his popularity due to the way he has handled this.  The guy had cancelled removed from his kidney when NJ got hit hard with this virus. 

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2 minutes ago, Draguns said:

Governor Murphy has raised his popularity due to the way he has handled this

Because people are idiots.

 

2 minutes ago, Draguns said:

ou do realize there was no Federal leadership, right?

Thanks for pointing out the obvious. However according the constitution. The STATES are in charge of their respective responses Trump provides advice but its ultimately up to the individuals governors to decide policy for the states.   

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9 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Ask all the elderly people who died because Andrew forced them into back into infected nursing homes and all the people that died in your state(which is one of the epicenters)

https://www.insidernj.com/polling-reinforces-murphy-handling-covid-19/

Rather than spewing  what you said, you can easily go on Google to do some research. 

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1 minute ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Because people are idiots.

 

Thanks for pointing out the obvious. However according the constitution. The STATES are in charge of their respective responses Trump provides advice but its ultimately up to the individuals governors to decide policy for the states.   

Really?! I distinctly remember how George W. Bush led when 9/11 happened. I remember how President Obama led when the "Great Recession" hit.  

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/news/2020/06/03/485806/5-ways-trump-administrations-policy-failures-compounded-coronavirus-induced-economic-crisis/

You may want to read this and do further research before stating it's just a states' problem. 

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9 minutes ago, Draguns said:

Really?! I distinctly remember how George W. Bush led when 9/11 happened. I remember how President Obama led when the "Great Recession" hit.  

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/news/2020/06/03/485806/5-ways-trump-administrations-policy-failures-compounded-coronavirus-induced-economic-crisis/

You may want to read this and do further research before stating it's just a states' problem. 

American Progress is your source? Lol. You may want to read the Constitution.  I remeber Obama saying he would have more flexibility after the election and SBs didn't build their businesses. You didn't build that!

It is a state problem because each individual state has its own levels and infections. What the constitution says  in the tenth amendment 

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

 

Given how vast, varied, and unevenly populated the United States is, it makes sense that state sovereignty would prevail in many coronavirus policy decisions. As the Trump administration rightly understands, a one-size-fits-all national policy is — on some questions — an imprecise tool with which to combat the pandemic. This makes sense. California, with a sixth of the world’s economy and a population of 40 million, is a commonwealth unto itself in Jeffersonian terms. New York is still known as the Empire State. With a population of almost 20 million, and one of the five most important cities on the planet, New York has a significance and a set of challenges that sets it apart from most other states.

 

 

 

15 minutes ago, Draguns said:

https://www.insidernj.com/polling-reinforces-murphy-handling-covid-19/

Rather than spewing  what you said, you can easily go on Google to do some research. 

The polls also tell me the Biden is in a 40 point lead:blink:

People who believe Phil Murphy are idiots because A everyone died

In New York people cant get funerals for their loved ones because of the GOVERNORS law and in California people are in open revolt(figuratively) against Newsom.

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