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I first posted this in the CD leaks discussion thread, as it was brought up there, but as it's off topic, I thought it would be better to start a new thread. -------------------------------------

My left ear has a bone to pick with that statement; turn Izzy up! 

To be honest, I'd love to hear alt mixes of the UYI stuff just to have something "new" to listen to. 

16 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

Wait wait wait wait wait, you're telling me that Tom Zutaut, who signed Motley Crue, GnR, and others, is now a used car salesman?!

I'm in the state of shock as you, right now lol.

 

I hope it's legitimately because he's now... uh... hard to believe I'm saying this but... passionate about selling cars (going from hollywood a&r guy in it's most decadent period, imo). 

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It isn't really surprising, though, considering that Tom Zutaut was out of Geffen around 1997 and then tried to work as an independent A&R, at a time when there were major changed in the music industry and many people who worked in the business became unemployed. He has to make a living somehow.

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Hey Zoot! I'll buy some beat up old piece of junk on the condition that you stack it with unheard GnR demo cd's. 

 

But on-topic.... None of this has ever been circulated and possibly doesn't even exist anymore, right? 

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1 hour ago, username said:

Hey Zoot! I'll buy some beat up old piece of junk on the condition that you stack it with unheard GnR demo cd's. 

 

But on-topic.... None of this has ever been circulated and possibly doesn't even exist anymore, right? 

IIRC the Q Sound mixes are around in a stereo format, but they sound like low fidelity shit; possibly the transfer is the culprit? Assuming they are the same mixes that Clearmountain did

 

I have them only for the purpose of having them (at least they were labeled as q sound versions)

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I remember reading about these years ago, maybe they are the CD leaks to the UYI albums, more cut down and raw sounding. Maybe. Although, from the articles it seems like quite the opposite. It seems like Bob just wasn't going in the same direction as the band. Also, who the hell mixed KOHD for days of thunder? 

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It's funny how it is only Guns N' Roses who seem to have a problem with these incredibly respected production people, Ezrin and so forth. Bob Clearmountain worked on Tattoo You: enough said! 

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2 hours ago, username said:

But on-topic.... None of this has ever been circulated and possibly doesn't even exist anymore, right? 

It seems Tom implies that they exist.

1 hour ago, Mendez said:

IIRC the Q Sound mixes are around in a stereo format, but they sound like low fidelity shit; possibly the transfer is the culprit? Assuming they are the same mixes that Clearmountain did

I have them only for the purpose of having them (at least they were labeled as q sound versions)

I think these are from the same source as the normal rough mixes that have been around. The Clearmountain mixes are known to not have circulated, although these rough mixes and Q mixes are from when he worked with the band. 

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1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said:

It's funny how it is only Guns N' Roses who seem to have a problem with these incredibly respected production people, Ezrin and so forth. Bob Clearmountain worked on Tattoo You: enough said! 

I'm not even sure Rick Rubin could be productive with this band. 

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2 hours ago, Blackstar said:

It seems Tom implies that they exist.

I think these are from the same source as the normal rough mixes that have been around. The Clearmountain mixes are known to not have circulated, although these rough mixes and Q mixes are from when he worked with the band. 

So when slash has mentioned in some interviews that he has the mixes before in a "stripped down version" would these straight from the recording console, or maybe bill prices mixes?.

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1 hour ago, UsedYourIllusion said:

I'm not even sure Rick Rubin could be productive with this band. 

Guns could have George Martin or Jimmy Miller producing for them, and they'd complain and find him an ''arsehole'' or some Rosey nonsense. 

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15 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said:

So when slash has mentioned in some interviews that he has the mixes before in a "stripped down version" would these straight from the recording console, or maybe bill prices mixes?.

I think those were earlier rough mixes. Not Bill Price's.

6 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

Is the mix of KOHD on Days of Thunder from these mixing sessions? Cause if so, I totally get where Niven and Zoot are coming from. That mix was horrible.

No, that was earlier, at around the same time Civil War was recorded (a little later).

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5 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

I think those were earlier rough mixes. Not Bill Price's.

No, that was earlier, at around the same time Civil War was recorded (a little later).

So were Civil War and the DoT version of KOHD still mixed by the same duo that mixed AFD then?

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4 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

So were Civil War and the DoT version of KOHD still mixed by the same duo that mixed AFD then?

No, I don't think so. They weren't involved in anything after AFD. Lies (the "new" songs) was mixed by the band and Clink, I assume.

Probably they mixed Civil War and KOHD themselves.

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15 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

No, I don't think so. They weren't involved in anything after AFD. Lies (the "new" songs) was mixed by the band and Clink, I assume.

Probably they mixed Civil War and KOHD themselves.

Does that suggest that the compilation that Civil War is on might have a different mix than UYI II? 

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4 minutes ago, UsedYourIllusion said:

Does that suggest that the compilation that Civil War is on might have a different mix than UYI II? 

No I think they kept Civil War exactly the same, for whatever reason. Guess they just figured it was good enough, whereas with KOHD they probably saw an opportunity to make it sound better.

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5 minutes ago, UsedYourIllusion said:

Does that suggest that the compilation that Civil War is on might have a different mix than UYI II? 

They sound the same to me, but I don't have a trained ear to distinguish slight differences in the mix. 

I guess they kept the original mix, so it wasn't remixed by Bill Price.

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9 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

The first time I saw this, I thought it was fake.

 

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Axl has that same jacket! HOB 2001

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I want to hear that 5.1 Q-Sound shit. Maybe too futurist in that time... but very approchable in this decade. I had some gnr Q-Sound demos and sounds like shit, maybe was the transfer. I dont really know.

 

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