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I’m still gathering my thoughts about the film, and I think I’d need to see it again to take off my “new Batman film, so it must be awesome” glasses. But initial impressions, are that I thought it was pretty damn great.

It’s not a film without flaws, but it was still really great. For it’s runtime (close to 3 hours) it didn’t seem to drag much either. I was pretty much gripped to my seat most of the movie.

Pattinson was fantastic, as were the rest of the cast. Batman and Catwoman had great chemistry.

I’d also just like to add, that when we first hear the revving of the Batmobile engine before seeing it in it’s full glory, I was giggling with a big stupid grin on my face at how awesome it was!

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I'm generally of the opinion that the Nolan trilogy was as good as it gets and nobody should even be trying to make any more Batman films, but part of me is almost curious to see Glasgow as Gotham in this.

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I liked it. My only real complaints are the awkwardness of the sequel-bait scene, and a few too many shots of seeing bad guys unload entire magazines worth of ammo on Batman. I understand he has armour, but I preferred the way this was handled in earlier films where he could only take a couple of shots and even those might knock him down at least. It was hard to feel the stakes in action scenes when he comes across as invincible.

Still, good movie.

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Right, I'm off to watch it again. The Vue in Croydon is only £6 a ticket so I might just stay in the pub for the first hour then pop back in to see the ending. :lol: 

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2 hours ago, Dazey said:

Right, I'm off to watch it again. The Vue in Croydon is only £6 a ticket so I might just stay in the pub for the first hour then pop back in to see the ending. :lol: 

Scratch that. I’m off to see Pulp Fiction at the Prince Charles in SoHo instead.

Don’t suppose you fancy it @Amir? 😂 

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Two scenes stick out in my mind as pretty dope cinematography.

  • One is the Batmobile reveal and chase. 
  • The other is when he comes out of the elevator to fight all those guys in the dark and only the gun fire illuminates the action.
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It was pretty good! Some flaws here and there, but overall it ended up being a way more unique and entertaining film than I had expected! Not sure where it ranks among the other Batman incarnations yet. Need more time to think about it.

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On 3/4/2022 at 3:43 AM, Dazey said:

Went to a midnight showing after a long day at work and fell asleep halfway through. Woke up and left before the end. What I saw was great but I'll have to try again when I'm not so tired. :lol: 

LOL I also had a big fight against sleep for the first hour or so. There is no better place/way to sleep than in the dark cinema. ;) But judging by what I saw, I think this was the best portrayal of Batman since '92. Batman is finally a detective again. Not some random superhero, who just coincidently looks like a bat. I still think Pattinson is grossly miscast as Bruce Wayne, but luckily he's Batman most of the time and as that he's quite alright. Not sure what tehy did with the Riddler, because that sure as hell wasn't the riddler, but the story, while not quite perfect, moved along and the movie, despite it's length, didn't drag.

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5 hours ago, PatrickS77 said:

LOL I also had a big fight against sleep for the first hour or so. There is no better place/way to sleep than in the dark cinema. ;) But judging by what I saw, I think this was the best portrayal of Batman since '92. Batman is finally a detective again. Not some random superhero, who just coincidently looks like a bat. I still think Pattinson is grossly miscast as Bruce Wayne, but luckily he's Batman most of the time and as that he's quite alright. Not sure what tehy did with the Riddler, because that sure as hell wasn't the riddler, but the story, while not quite perfect, moved along and the movie, despite it's length, didn't drag.

Amen on the detective bit. I actually made a joke on this forum like a year ago that I was totally ready for a Batman detective story with minimal fighting. More of a Sherlock Holmes with a suit. Ok this wasn't totally that, but the pace is much slower than typical superhero schlock and there were no quips or cheap one-liners, naturally I loved all of this. People have said this has a 70's film vibe, which is a good thing because 70's film is amazing. The Gotham atmosphere that Reeves created in this is so captivating. It's on par with Burton's Gotham aesthetic/vibe, which I hold in very high regard.

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4 hours ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said:

Amen on the detective bit. I actually made a joke on this forum like a year ago that I was totally ready for a Batman detective story with minimal fighting. More of a Sherlock Holmes with a suit. Ok this wasn't totally that, but the pace is much slower than typical superhero schlock and there were no quips or cheap one-liners, naturally I loved all of this. People have said this has a 70's film vibe, which is a good thing because 70's film is amazing. The Gotham atmosphere that Reeves created in this is so captivating. It's on par with Burton's Gotham aesthetic/vibe, which I hold in very high regard.

Burton's Batman films, particularly the first, have an excellent aesthetic.

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2 hours ago, PatrickS77 said:

Yes. I think the aesthetic of the second is even better though. It's quirky.

I can't quite recall the 2nd film but I'm sure you're right. I love that sort of dark gothic noir look.

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41 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

I can't quite recall the 2nd film but I'm sure you're right. I love that sort of dark gothic noir look.

That is the second. You should watch it again. ;) There Burton really got his footing and made it his. That whole movie also flows much better than the first one, which is a bit clunky and serves Batman in blocks. His appearances are way more "fluid" in 2.

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1 hour ago, Coma16 said:

Is this film the first in the story or do viewers need to go back and watch other recent DC movies to be up to speed?

Standalone. Has nothing to do with the other DC movies.

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I’m not ready to rank the live-action theatrical films individually yet, but I think I’m at a point now where I can group them into tiers, at least:

GREAT

Batman ‘89, Batman Returns, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, The Batman

OKAY

The Dark Knight Rises, Joker

SO BAD IT’S GOOD

Batman ‘66, Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, Justice League

UNWATCHABLE

Batman v. Superman, Suicide Squad

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11 hours ago, rocknroll41 said:

I’m not ready to rank the live-action theatrical films individually yet, but I think I’m at a point now where I can group them into tiers, at least:

GREAT

Batman ‘89, Batman Returns, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, The Batman

OKAY

The Dark Knight Rises, Joker

SO BAD IT’S GOOD

Batman ‘66, Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, Justice League

UNWATCHABLE

Batman v. Superman, Suicide Squad

Should bump Joker up to great.

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3 hours ago, Oldest Goat said:

Elaborate?

“Too incely” = Glorifying mental illness rather than bringing genuine awareness to it.

”Unreliable narrator” = Him imagining his entire relationship with that girl and that hard cut from him on top of the car to him in the mental asylum both imply that not everything in the movie may be “true.” In fact, the whole movie may just be “in his head” (or at least most of it). I like this because, while the movie acts like it’s realistic, it actually isn’t. Stuff like those generic “Wall Street guys” bullying him on the train felt very cartoony, and not like something you’d expect to happen irl. But him being an unreliable narrator helps to diminish that jarring effect.

I would also like to add that the movie feels kinda pretentious. The director himself even said that he only made it cause he wanted to “sneak a REAL movie thru the studio system, maaaan!” If he didn’t wanna make a superhero movie, then why use a superhero character? Why not just remake Taxi Driver or The King of Comedy? Or just make his own “hybrid” of those? The movie is already similar to both of them anyways. Furthermore, the fact that the film has a cameo from Marc Maron, a man who has said time and time again that he hates superheroes, makes it feel that much more pretentious.

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Saw it the other day and thought it was pretty great. Great performances from everyone involved and a different type of Batman film that I really enjoyed.

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