BreakDown2014 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I't's huge news having Perhaps soundchecked. Still, I have to say I feel a little bit disappointed that all new music so far are reworked CD era songs, and all of them are songs we already had with full vocals.... It obviously is better than nothing and I look forward to the day the song gets played live or released on streaming platforms, but it gives mixed feelings... specially considering I love the VIillage Sessions versions of Hardschool, Silkworms and Perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Gunner Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Skamos66 said: gotta keep in mind that each show they play the setlist will still be completely new and surprising for a majority of fans in attendance, so while it might not be fresh for us after a few shows, it still will be to whatever venue they are playing. totally agree.. and as someone whos seen them multiple times im good with that set list except for easy as the opener and wichita has got to go.... that song is a drag and too far down the set to serve as a bathroom break 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I will be shocked if he gets through this entire tour without either cancelling or permanently damaging his voice. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Projected Posted June 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2023 OG mygnrforum member here. The show was fucking great. Axl sounded like Axl in the past 6-7 years. Sound mixing could be better (and it was back in 2017 and 2012). Overall, a really amazing rock n' roll show. Great respect for these guys, some of whom are around 60 years old. 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Projected said: OG mygnrforum member here. The show was fucking great. Axl sounded like Axl in the past 6-7 years. Sound mixing could be better (and it was back in 2017 and 2012). Overall, a really amazing rock n' roll show. Great respect for these guys, some of whom are around 60 years old. I agree the live setting is great and mad respect to all of them but disagree that he sounds the same as he did since 2016. It’s upsetting and you honestly never know what he’s doing (or not doing) to preserve his voice in between tours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Projected Posted June 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, HollyWoodRose84 said: I agree the live setting is great and mad respect to all of them but disagree that he sounds the same as he did since 2016. It’s upsetting and you honestly never know what he’s doing (or not doing) to preserve his voice in between tours. I don't know. But I know that I've been to several shows in the past 6 years and he sounded more or less the same in all of them. tbh, I don't even expect a lot of greatness vocal wise from Axl Rose in 2023, I didn't even expect it in 2012 when I first saw him, but have been following closely for quite some time by then. All of this nitpicking is getting tired with time, and I used to do it a LOT on this very forum. GnR are still able to put on an amazing rock n roll show, three hours of high energy kickass performance that transcends me into a different reality at least temporarily. I'm done measuring which note Axl hit on Live and Let Die lmao. It's just a very very good rock show. That's all. And that's why the drone shots from the show are they way that they are. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Projected Posted June 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2023 What I will say is that they need to get rid of Wichita Lineman, because it's a horrible cover, and Absurd, which is just a horrible horrible song. Two decades of this absolute garbage of a song haunting me jesus christ lol 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Projected said: What I will say is that they need to get rid of Wichita Lineman, because it's a horrible cover, and Absurd, which is just a horrible horrible song. Two decades of this absolute garbage of a song haunting me jesus christ lol It’s not even the LALD notes. It’s the basic stuff. Easy, Jungle, Nightrain…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Projected Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, HollyWoodRose84 said: It’s not even the LALD notes. It’s the basic stuff. Easy, Jungle, Nightrain…. Regardless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Shacklermyrye said: That's one song mate. My world is one song, should there sound be based off that? No, I was just point it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 27 minutes ago, HollyWoodRose84 said: I agree the live setting is great and mad respect to all of them but disagree that he sounds the same as he did since 2016. Yea, there's been a pretty clear deterioration since then. Songs like WTTJ and OTGM had classic Axl vocals in 2016. It's been a steep decline since around 2018 though. He still sounds weak on a lot of songs, but for the first time since probably 2017 he sounds good on about half the set. Hopefully they replace some of the weaker songs like TIL and SOD with Perhaps and the slow You're Crazy at some point... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Was Rocket Queen really that bad today? I missed that part of the stream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 28 minutes ago, ShadowOfTheWave said: Was Rocket Queen really that bad today? I missed that part of the stream. There was a lot of bad. I just rewatched San Juan 2010 and started crying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 6 hours ago, DTJ80 said: Yeah - quite a bit shorter. I wonder why? Cause they are anti-semitic 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyIce3924 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, HollyWoodRose84 said: I will be shocked if he gets through this entire tour without either cancelling or permanently damaging his voice. The same way he’s done it for the past seven years I’d imagine. Edited June 6, 2023 by MattyIce3924 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said: Yea, there's been a pretty clear deterioration since then. Songs like WTTJ and OTGM had classic Axl vocals in 2016. It's been a steep decline since around 2018 though. He still sounds weak on a lot of songs, but for the first time since probably 2017 he sounds good on about half the set. Hopefully they replace some of the weaker songs like TIL and SOD with Perhaps and the slow You're Crazy at some point... I have to say. The best song of this concert was Chinese. Vocals amazing and the band as a whole sounded extremely tight. Really wish they would do a one-off release of this current band’s rendition. Head and shoulders above the album cut. It’s harder and more chugging thanks to the change in drumming and Duff’s bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 17 hours ago, Blackstar said: Perhaps sounds really good on these clips, I must say. There's also that "mysterious song" that they soundchecked in South America last year. I still believe it was a song and not a random jam. What was that? Fwiw I do think there's some kind of plan to try writing all new material after this tour, like Slash said a while back. First we get Perhaps and whatever else this year then maybe something new later. I don't think he would've said that if it hadn't already been talked about before between them. 2 hours ago, HollyWoodRose84 said: I have to say. The best song of this concert was Chinese. Vocals amazing and the band as a whole sounded extremely tight. Really wish they would do a one-off release of this current band’s rendition. Head and shoulders above the album cut. It’s harder and more chugging thanks to the change in drumming and Duff’s bass. I would love a studio version of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDemocracyRose Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 It's a little disappointing. He was better in Abu D. I don't know why but he should be improving as the tour goes on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) I definitely praise the inclusion of low-register songs and ditching Better, i.e. Axl finally reacting to his current possibilities. Which is, by the same token, raising the question why on earth he insists on doing SoD and TIL, which sound horrible. He's not gonna drop stuff like RQ, but these two should go, at least for now, or at least they could alternate with something else. It's like he's constantly trying to prove something to someone. Edited June 6, 2023 by jamillos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 34 minutes ago, TheDemocracyRose said: It's a little disappointing. He was better in Abu D. I don't know why but he should be improving as the tour goes on... It's only the 2nd show. Give him chance 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasmineSwe Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Leandro Jose said: Axl delivered some pretty solid vocals on Nightrain. https://youtu.be/_vWBio2z1oE Damn, he's got a good rasp going on here! He nailed the most difficult parts - "Never to retuuuuuuurn" and "Loaded like a freight train, flyyyyyyying like an aeroplane" (after the brigde). I've sung Nightrain in my singing classes and those parts are so f'n high I almost had a stroke (and I'm a woman) Edited June 6, 2023 by JasmineSwe 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gilby Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Anyone else notice they slipped a little of the Sympathy For The Devil piano riff into Rocket Queen. I'd fucking love to hear this line up do Sympathy live. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koldbeer2 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 10 hours ago, HollyWoodRose84 said: I will be shocked if he gets through this entire tour without either cancelling or permanently damaging his voice. I'm fully expecting baritone Axl will be showing up again at some point in this tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, HollyWoodRose84 said: I will be shocked if he gets through this entire tour without either cancelling or permanently damaging his voice. He’s already permanently damaged his voice with AC/DC seven years ago, and it’s been showing ever since 2018, if not earlier. Which is why I don’t understand why they have to keep doing the same tour (7th year now), and playing 3+ hour shows. Yes, it’s nice for the fans, but they’re not getting any younger, and tempus fugit... I just hope he’ll continue adjusting the playlists accordingly, like he seems to have done now (with some unreasonable exceptions). Edited June 6, 2023 by jamillos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, jamillos said: He’s already permanently damaged his voice with AC/DC seven years ago, and it’s been showing ever since 2018, if not earlier. Which is why I don’t understand why they have to keep doing the same tour (7th year now), and playing 3+ hour shows. Yes, it’s nice for the fans, but they’re not getting any younger, and tempus fugit... I just hope he’ll continue adjusting the playlists accordingly, like he seems to have done now (with some unreasonable exceptions). Once again... The AC/DC shows didn't damage Axls voice. He had a vocal coach working with him specifically so he didn't do that, as he mentioned in interviews. If Axl was damaging his voice, the coach would have said "you're doing serious damage here, try singing this way instead" as you can hear on the AC/DC run Axl didn't really change his approach. AC/DC was very demanding for Axl, and his voice did crack here and there going for those insane notes, so it's easy to point at that and say this is the smoking gun. If anything damaged his voice, it was the Guns tour having 2 3hr shows in a row, at his age he needs rest of at least a day between shows. The damage to Axls voice is simply that he stopped working as hard sometime towards the end of 2016, went into auto pilot, lost a step and now age is kicking his ass for it. IF AC/DC had destroyed his voice, then the NITL tour would have been scrapped in 2016 as his voice had been destroyed... as you point out 7+ years it rolls on as he could still sing. He stopped practicing as regularly, went back to just doing warm ups/downs on show days and slowly but surely his voice got weaker (as you need to work on your voice almost every day of the week, in a use it or lose it way). Now, I can't say any of that for fact, but to me that's what it sounds like... but I'm not a vocal coach/expert. I do believe he can still build that part of his voice again if he followed a strict routine with a coach that specialises in vocal repair/recovery. Agreed though, adjust the playlist, make the sets shorter and to the point. Doesn't need to be playing as long any more! Edited June 6, 2023 by Tom2112 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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