allwaystired Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Now the first leg is over, what are people's thoughts on it in general? My view is that they were the best shows in a good long while, and I very much enjoyed the setlist shake ups even if it was just the order the songs came in. The lack of new material puts a sour spot on it for me (especially as we had them soundchecked and on the setlist) however, which is difficult to get over. The timing seemed right for it, the band seemed hungry again.....yet nothing. What do others think and feel? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Same as I always think after a tour: I wish they had released music instead. Some minor changes to do the setlist doesn't matter to me at all. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumcheecksmcghee Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Same as I always think after a tour: I wish they had released music instead. Some minor changes to do the setlist doesn't matter to me at all. Exactly this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I definitely praise the setlist alternations, especially the first couple of gigs, which reminded me of the beginning of 2016. I also appreciate Axl finally acknowledging some self-reflection and incorporating songs that better suit his current abilities, i.e. low-register stuff like PTU, Bad Obsession, or Down on the Farm. Good songs, too. The negative stuff is, well, as usual. His voice getting worse (reflected even by reviewers now), yet another tour with nothing new bar a few deep cuts, and no new music released. Overall not bad, but all this could have already happened in 2021, and they could have been working in the studio as we speak. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Same as I always think after a tour: I wish they had released music instead. Some minor changes to do the setlist doesn't matter to me at all. Didn’t you happen to have had a major change of heart recently? I may be wrong, but as far as I remember, you used to defend the band and anything they do on the stage to death afaik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lio Posted July 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2023 I was hoping and thinking we'd get at least Perhaps this tour. But no, so that was disappointing. But all in all I saw two shows while I had only planned on doing one just because I enjoy their shows so much. Up until they get on the stage, I'm thinking: Ugh, getting too old for this. Stupid people all around me, my feet hurt already, and then I hear the opening of ISE and I get goosebumps all over again, every single time. And it's all worth it. I don't care what anyone says, or how much people complain about how bad Axl sounds or how bored anyone else on stage is, to me, it's magic every single time. If anything, I wish I could have done more shows but that wasn't in the cards this year. I would think we'll get Perhaps in the US leg, so that gives me an extra reason to go again next time they're around 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 26 minutes ago, jamillos said: Didn’t you happen to have had a major change of heart recently? I may be wrong, but as far as I remember, you used to defend the band and anything they do on the stage to death afaik. Hmm? No, you are wrong. For instance, I was always very vocal about how disappointed I was of the "reunion". It's just this fanbase who aren't very good at nuances. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Definitely the best run in a while. Axl was more consistent than usual and it was cool to hear stuff like PTU, Bad Obsession, Down on the Farm, etc. I'm looking forward to seeing them in October. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Were 2 setlists the same thought the tour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Hmm? No, you are wrong. For instance, I was always very vocal about how disappointed I was of the "reunion". It's just this fanbase who aren't very good at nuances. My apologies then, I should have remembered precisely! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JY2016 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) This European leg was great! I went to three shows: Graspop, Rome and Weert. Axl’s mic sound had issues at Graspop and had a comfortable VIP Deck ticket there, so watched it from a distance, knowing I would be in the GC for the two other shows. The atmosphere and location in Rome were the best, Circo Massimo in the heart of the city was so great! Sound wise, Weert was the best out of the three, at least for me. New music is a nice to have, but I don’t let the lack of it ruin the joy of the nostalgia act and the soundtrack of my life. Plus: I’d rather have PTU, Reckless Life, Locomotive, DOTF (I always liked that TSI song so much, finally it was played!!!), Anything Goes and My Michelle than a new song. Watching Axl having a lot of fun and having a better voice was great and made it better than previous legs. I Next time I will be there again a few times, whether or not there will be new music, I don’t care :-) Edited July 24, 2023 by JY2016 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
©GnrPersia Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 22 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: It's just this fanbase who aren't very good at nuances. Well said. Many people often resort to mockery or trolling when someone opposes or criticizes the reunion in any shape or form. I believe this reaction stems from their deep emotional and financial investment in this. You can spot this under threads about the gigs where many posters are attendees. They might be hesitant to face the possibility that the reunion might not live up to their expectations. Now, let's have a respectful discussion about it folks. If you feel the pain then take painkillers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Definitely the best tour since 16/17. Felt fresh and Axl was way more energized than in previous years. Of course a new song would've been nice and at every show there was a little bit of hope for perhaps to be played, but it doesn't take anything away of the awesomeness that had been the last couple weeks. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6lake sa66ath Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: Definitely the best tour since 16/17. Felt fresh and Axl was way more energized than in previous years. Of course a new song would've been nice This is what I think too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlIsGod. Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 19 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: Definitely the best tour since 16/17. Felt fresh and Axl was way more energized than in previous years. Of course a new song would've been nice and at every show there was a little bit of hope for perhaps to be played, but it doesn't take anything away of the awesomeness that had been the last couple weeks. Pretty much this. Quite happy I didn't bother last year now, especially with how the UK shows went Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 36 minutes ago, AxlIsGod. said: Pretty much this. Quite happy I didn't bother last year now, especially with how the UK shows went Yeah same. I didn't feel I missed out at all last year. Glad I bothered this year. Not sure how I'd feel about seeing them again now, should they tour next year. It would be based nearly entirely on how they were playing and what they were playing (alongside price of course). Which is what I based going this time on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I feeel so sad that it's over.. I've been Hyped since april.. now I feel like summer is over, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlIsGod. Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, allwaystired said: Yeah same. I didn't feel I missed out at all last year. Glad I bothered this year. Not sure how I'd feel about seeing them again now, should they tour next year. It would be based nearly entirely on how they were playing and what they were playing (alongside price of course). Which is what I based going this time on. Yeah, I'm not sure either. If it was another 2/3 years id consider going with similar setlists to 2023 tbh. If you think about it these setlists are some of the most different we've had since the old days. So much of the newgnr era, and to a lesser extent early NITL, was AFD/CD heavy. These UYI-filled shows are definitely something I feel less tired of - I never thought I'd be hearing songs like Bad Obsession/PTU and Down on the Farm live tbh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzysMissy Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Better than the last few runs - I love the fact that Bad Obsession and PTU are on the set list. however I’m still not sold on purchasing a ticket for the NA Leg. I’ve seen them live every time they’ve played NY/NJ and… I’m sorry… show is fun.. but sound wise it just isn’t for me. It’s literally a worse sounding show, of the SAME show they’ve had since the start of this. Except the 2 deep cuts. Having said that, I’m beyond stoked that others are enjoying themselves. If you are having fun at a show, you are winning in life! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlashisGOD Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 This tour saw the band fired up, especially Axl and for that I can’t wait for the USA leg. I just hope the setlist is as good and that we get Perhaps and The General. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Most interesting leg in a while. Glastonbury, the hype and the prep they obviously did because of it helped a lot I think. Might not have got DOTF returning if not for Glastonbury. I've not followed all the shows religiously but it feels like all the show threads have been more positive than not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 22 minutes ago, alfierose said: Most interesting leg in a while. Glastonbury, the hype and the prep they obviously did because of it helped a lot I think. Might not have got DOTF returning if not for Glastonbury. I've not followed all the shows religiously but it feels like all the show threads have been more positive than not. That did seem like a big driving force for the tour, I'd agree. That they even altered some of the songs to be shorter for the Glastonbury set showed that (maybe for the first time in many years) they were acutely aware of both audience perception and that they needed to make changes. I don't think there was much negative in any of the threads actually- just a general disappointment that there wasn't new material. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRmello77 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I think it was a good leg, the band looked and sounded good, it's like age is not catching up with them yet. All 3hour plus shows with a very good and entertaining setlist. Love the various changes. I've been to 3 shows with different songs at each show, also witnessed a total of 6 songs for the first time live! Compared to last year, I saw improvement on several aspects. Ticket sales were mixed in each country but overall I think they did good. I do believe they need to comeback with a chunk of new songs and at least one top 10 song in the charts to create more demand. It's best to come back in 2 or 3 years from now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oxford Posted July 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2023 I haven’t seen them since 1993, and before that I’d probably seen them at least 25 times. Probably far more. I used to travel loads back then. So Hyde Park was the first time in 30 years. I’ve seen tons of reviews, watched loads of new shows, and read everything on here, so I was hardly optimistic. But after following the tour on here and seeing them live, I was more than happy. What a great experience I had. Axl was really into it. Slash was, er… Slash and it was epic. Sure Axls voice isn’t what it was, but he was great. And my daughter saw them for the first time at Glasto and she was really really happy. Another lifer there. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 In my opinion this is to me the most excited I have been since like 2017ish when the new sheen of the freshly reunited GNR wore off Actual meaningful setlist changes that have slowly accumulated the past years - PTU and Bad Obsession paired with other songs they dusted off (Slither, SOYL, Reckless Life, Locomotive, etc.) means this is a fairly different show to look forward to for the upcoming US leg compared to the 2016 shows I caught Axl seems to be doing well and making the most of the vocal abilities he still has too. And I am digging his fashion choices too, not that it matters but he seems much more "Axl" than he has been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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