bangit Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, prairieboy said: Imagine having Monsters sitting around for all these years, but leaving it on the shelf to release Absurd instead? I can't decide if it's funny or upsetting. Yes this is true. All part of a grand plan I hope 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Walapino said: The General now makes GNR appear as top artist in the search button (im in Peru). This hadnt happen before, fingers crossed for the digital release soon! Or we still caring and putting credence to any of that shit? Lots of people will be searching the same stuff on their, the algorithm will learn the searches and when it's hot from time to time (like now) it'll produce those results. Otherwise, never come true has it.... 3 minutes ago, Cosmo said: And he also recorded his two concert solo songs, Mi Amor and Ballad of Death. ....And 12 full songs which Axl A&R'd with apart zero interest....guessing they became Sixx Am songs on their last record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, rumandraisin said: At least we can rule out Ashba. He never recorded with Guns. Depends on if you count Ballad of Death and Mi Amor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, WhazUp said: Take Slash's sound when he is shredding there at 5:04, add a few more runs and a wah pedal and there is the sound of The General's outro lead Or to this outro from 3:40 on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, WhazUp said: Take Slash's sound when he is shredding there at 5:04, add a few more runs and a wah pedal and there is the sound of The General's outro lead Still Slash's best full song guitar wise in the last twenty years...but specifically the live 9 minute version. How do you mute Myles? (Haha he was fine when I saw Slash live in 2014 but still...) If this was a Guns song or if he could create something on this level on the "new" album, we would be delighted! He's gotta have some cool riffs saved in his backpocket these last 7 years, surely....if he's on a new Guns album from scratch, surely we expect him to suitably rise to the occasion, especially in studio when he can do lots of takes! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTK Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 20 minutes ago, rumandraisin said: At least we can rule out Ashba. He never recorded with Guns. Most likely bullshit...no proof either way though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 39 minutes ago, Free Bird said: I'm waiting for the day when it's confirmed that Slash plays the leads how some of these people will pretend that Slash's parts are weak and how much better Buckets work would be. Basically the same people that don't wanna believe that it's Slash on TG outro. I thought it was Bucket maybe but I’d be stoked if that was the final Slash solo on it! Y’all know I love Slash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted October 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2023 46 minutes ago, Free Bird said: I'm waiting for the day when it's confirmed that Slash plays the leads how some of these people will pretend that Slash's parts are weak and how much better Buckets work would be. Basically the same people that don't wanna believe that it's Slash on TG outro. Yeah, some people can't cope with the idea that CD era songs have guitar work that they like and it's Slash, so it can't be, it must be Bucket or Robin 7 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 55 minutes ago, kanecrescente said: They all have such a predictable, boring and lazy structure to them all. They all follow the same formula of verse, chorus, verse, chorus, solo, chorus, guitar outro, done. That song structure is true and true, but I agree I wish these two songs had another twist or two each. At least there are a lot of cool things going on in them and they sound great back to back I thought Hard Skool, Perhaps, and Absurd could have used another part or two each, too. It’s all good, though. Still plenty to enjoy. Slash’s first solo album had the verse-chorus-bridge thing on every song, too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 After listening to monsters about 100 times I’m convinced that it’s Slash and Richard playing. however The General sounds more like Nuguns, which is confusing, Monsters is obviously the stronger song and should have been the lead single IMO. does anyone remember that cryptic post on on of their IG accounts of a screen with a horror type theme that they were watching a while back? hopefully that ties in to a new music video when they do an album with monsters hopefully as the lead single. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: I thought it was Bucket maybe but I’d be stoked if that was the final Slash solo on it! Y’all know I love Slash Be sure I didn't mean you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNFNRUK Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Voodoochild said: It's not 100% Slash, there's Richard too. Yeah I’ve heard people say that, it all just sounds like Slash to me tbh but I’m happy to be proven wrong… That's if they ever officially break down who plays what. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: That song structure is true and true, but I agree I wish these two songs had another twist or two each. At least there are a lot of cool things going on in them and they sound great back to back I thought Hard Skool, Perhaps, and Absurd could have used another part or two each, too. It’s all good, though. Still plenty to enjoy. Slash’s first solo album had the verse-chorus-bridge thing on every song, too Due to the song title The General And Monsters I still can imagine they made one song out of two, just that it fits on the 7 inch LP, and there you go, then you have your 7 - 8 min epic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, GNRmello77 said: Okay, first Listen to the Bridge in Monsters, and then Listen to the first verse of Nightrain live in Tokyo 2009, same pitch right there!! The exact same octave Yeah, it’s 100% the same singer. 1 hour ago, 22frets said: I believe people are attributing the outro solo of The General to Buckethead, not the one in Monsters that I assume you're talking about. Monsters outro is definitely Slash first and then Fortus. I understand people attributing Fortus' part to Robin because their styles are somewhat similar but Robin's playing is more usually more expressive than this and he uses a lot of staccato to highlight certain notes. The Monsters solo sounds similar to how Fortus plays live. Coming to The General, one of the repeating licks in the outro solo is literally the fast repeating lick from the SCoM/Slither solos that Slash is well-known for overusing, just in a different order of notes and higher speed. This 100%. about the repeating lick, I’m struggling a bit to play it accurately. But after that there is an interesting run that’s very similar to what he’s been playing live. 4 minutes ago, GNFNRUK said: Yeah I’ve heard people say that, it all just sounds like Slash to me tbh but I’m happy to be proven wrong… That's if they ever officially break down who plays what. Maybe if it’s played live. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Ratam said: Then why is about in GNR FB? Is a bit confuse 😕 Yes the vinyl is Dec 8th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agattuso Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Pretty interesting that Beltrami seems to confirm this was 2 different songs. While what leak was 2 different songs and what is now registered will actually be released is one merged song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22frets Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, Voodoochild said: This 100%. about the repeating lick, I’m struggling a bit to play it accurately. But after that there is an interesting run that’s very similar to what he’s been playing live. Man, can't wait to hear your full cover if you plan on doing it! I was thinking of learning some of the solos but I'm in the middle of learning other stuff right now. Tried figuring out some stuff from Monsters and it seemed fairly straightforward. The solo from The General is definitely going to be a challenge lol. I'll probably wait for you to cover it and steal your notes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumandraisin Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, colonizedmind said: Yes he did....haven't you heard one of his 12 remixes of Better? The Better mix was done by himself wasn't it? And Ballad and Mi Amor only had a few members on, like Ron's pink panther cover. But they were recorded and produced by themselves rather than as a Gnr production/recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, 22frets said: Man, can't wait to hear your full cover if you plan on doing it! I was thinking of learning some of the solos but I'm in the middle of learning other stuff right now. Tried figuring out some stuff from Monsters and it seemed fairly straightforward. The solo from The General is definitely going to be a challenge lol. I'll probably wait for you to cover it and steal your notes. I think I got close, but the fast run part is a bit hard to hear clearly in the mix, even using AI to isolate the tracks. For now, I’m just recording the audio and training, maybe the final version will be easier to understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanecrescente Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ZoSoRose said: That song structure is true and true, but I agree I wish these two songs had another twist or two each. At least there are a lot of cool things going on in them and they sound great back to back I thought Hard Skool, Perhaps, and Absurd could have used another part or two each, too. It’s all good, though. Still plenty to enjoy. Slash’s first solo album had the verse-chorus-bridge thing on every song, too Yep and they're all too short... very un-GNR, they all feel rushed and pieced together without any soul to them. hopefully that changes with the official release. Edited October 30, 2023 by kanecrescente Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flayer Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, kanecrescente said: They all have such a predictable, boring and lazy structure to them all. They all follow the same formula of verse, chorus, verse, chorus, solo, chorus, guitar outro, done. I don't think The General, Perhaps, State of Grace, Eye On You, or Absurd stick to that formula, though in most cases it's something being left out rather than something extra being added. Eye On You doesn't have verses at all. The General doesn't either, it has three different choruses or refrains that all get reused, plus a bridge. Perhaps and State of Grace only use their chorus twice and spend most of their time on verses. Absurd had what passed for its chorus chopped out, one of the verses copy pasted to be the new chorus, and the other verse just left in there to fill space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 hours ago, drlaban said: The official one? Yes, the official, they post is October 28: "after much back and forth, we finally content with the quality vinyl of the Perhaps, The General. We are sorry pushy the release to December 8" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanecrescente Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Flayer said: I don't think The General, Perhaps, State of Grace, Eye On You, or Absurd stick to that formula, though in most cases it's something being left out rather than something extra being added. Eye On You doesn't have verses at all. The General doesn't either, it has three different choruses or refrains that all get reused, plus a bridge. Perhaps and State of Grace only use their chorus twice and spend most of their time on verses. Absurd had what passed for its chorus chopped out, one of the verses copy pasted to be the new chorus, and the other verse just left in there to fill space. 'Absurd! Absurd!' was literally the chorus. Perhaps has the exact same verse and chorus over again before the solo... Hard Skool was the most passable 'GNR-esque' release and even that was short. Edited October 30, 2023 by kanecrescente Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4NNY Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, kanecrescente said: 'Absurd! Absurd!' was literally the chorus. You missed “owwww” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanecrescente Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) Just now, D4NNY said: You missed “owwww” Fucking banger Live though I'll give em that. Gets a cheer from me. Edited October 30, 2023 by kanecrescente 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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