colonizedmind Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) Over under on how many more Slash / Duff leftovers we haven't heard yet....Imma be optimistic and say 3 more...don't quote me back the Trunk shit...it was vague at best...perhaps he could of put finishing touches to a couple more since then anyways, we've seen studio time since so... So Absurd Hard Skool --------------- Perhaps The General --------------- Monsters Atlas --------------- State Of Grace Berlin Edited November 4, 2023 by colonizedmind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axljungle Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 The samurai’s picture leaked with the song is beautiful. I don’t know where it came. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 34 minutes ago, colonizedmind said: Over under on how many more Slash / Duff leftovers we haven't heard yet....Imma be optimistic and say 3 more...don't quote me back the Trunk shit...it was vague at best...perhaps he could of put finishing touches to a couple more since then anyways, we've seen studio time since so... So Absurd Hard Skool --------------- Perhaps The General --------------- Monsters Atlas --------------- State Of Grace Berlin Atlas and Monsters i would say is likely, SOG & Berlin may be a pipe dream though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 24 minutes ago, Rindmelon said: Atlas and Monsters i would say is likely, SOG & Berlin may be a pipe dream though All of this was a pipe dream little over two years ago, so...who knows.... We can dream over the next year or so.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumandraisin Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 27 minutes ago, Rindmelon said: Atlas and Monsters i would say is likely, SOG & Berlin may be a pipe dream though I'd go with it being a pipe dream. State of Grace seems to have been forgotten along the way. Berlin on the other hand.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt07 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 The sitar sounds a lot better in the live performance than the synth used in the leak. The bass and the orchestral arrangements are also under mixed on the studio version. I really hope we got an unfinished effort and that the final cut on the vinyl will address those issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, axljungle said: The samurai’s picture leaked with the song is beautiful. I don’t know where it came. Where is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) I think it's safe to say that Monsters and Atlas are guaranteed to be released at one point or another (not necessarily together - I still think that The General and Monsters are tied together (not as "one song", of course) or at least were going to be released together, but the plan changed probably due to the poor quality of the vinyl pressing. Beyond that, State of Grace is a strong contender (the fact that we haven't heard about it doesn't mean it has been abandoned). And then, if that thing they were playing at soundcheck last year was a song, it's probably another song we haven't heard before. Edited November 4, 2023 by Blackstar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl Rose aka God Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 I was listening to The General on the bus ride home from work and I got to thinking... I don't think this is truly the sequel to Estranged like Baz had suggested but I think he was on the money with what he originally said, that The General completes a new trilogy. I think Shackler's Revenge, The General, and Monsters is a trilogy of music. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinaleblood Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 27 minutes ago, Blackstar said: State of Grace is a strong contender (the fact that we haven't heard about it doesn't mean it has been abandoned). Exactly. We hadn't really heard about Perhaps either, yet it was reworked and officially released before Atlas, which on the other hand is still unreleased despite being a song that was much talked about and almost included on CD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illusion1987 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 32 minutes ago, Axl Rose aka God said: I think Shackler's Revenge, The General, and Monsters is a trilogy of music. Exactly! Shackler's is the last piece 1) Monster- the Abuser 2) The General- the Abused 3) Shackler's- I'm going on a mass shooting rampage. Not exactly as much of a romanticized subject as Don't Cry + November Rain + Estranged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 36 minutes ago, Axl Rose aka God said: I was listening to The General on the bus ride home from work and I got to thinking... I don't think this is truly the sequel to Estranged like Baz had suggested but I think he was on the money with what he originally said, that The General completes a new trilogy. I think Shackler's Revenge, The General, and Monsters is a trilogy of music. That wasn't exactly what Bach said, though. He said that Axl had told him that The General would be on the third album, because the lyrics related to other songs that were going to be on that third album. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiedHands Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Voodoochild said: Never heard about this other tune that was combined to make Shacklers. I've always assumed the chorus was just something Caram, Axl (and maybe Robin, as he was credit if I'm not mistaken?) came up with. Bootsy Collins and Bucket did a song called "Shackler", and if you listen to it, it's clear where the inspiration came from lol Edited November 4, 2023 by TiedHands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 5 hours ago, rudolf1978 said: I remember Axl Saying that the band thought the album needed a fast song. But i cant tell you when but for sure not 99 or 00... would be more 2005 or 2006. Was added to the album at the end Not sure about a fast song, but I think there was something about a catchier tune maybe. There was some fast stuff on the Village demos too, though. Still, Axl wanted to finish Bucket demos such as Shacklers and Scraped without him. 6 minutes ago, TiedHands said: Bootsy Collins and Bucket did a song called "Shackler", and if you listen to it, it's clear where the inspiration came from lol I know about it, but those were more like related songs. I was talking about the part of the studio version that wasn’t present on the demo. And remember, this song had Pete Scaturro also as composer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmus1 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Counting Monsters under the “Perhaps single” umbrella until proven otherwise, my gut says they only did 2 more songs. If I had to guess, Atlas & Oklahoma, and I wouldn’t be shocked if Oklahoma was the a-side if there’s vocals around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Can you post it? 2 hours ago, axljungle said: The samurai’s picture leaked with the song is beautiful. I don’t know where it came. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GoForJMark Posted November 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2023 I don't know if it matters to you guys but fortus just confirmed to me on IG that the general was the song he was talking about regarding the use of sitar pedal. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, GoForJMark said: I don't know if it matters to you guys but fortus just confirmed to me on IG that the general was the song he was talking about regarding the use of sitar pedal. Good to know, bye bye Berlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamos66 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 VERY good and clear quality capture of "The General" premiere, clearly can hear Axl much better than any of the other sources and wow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRmello77 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 I can't get over how Axl's just brings that part of can anybody help me.. so on with so much justice to the recorded song, like with true feels. I love how he sings that verse 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNFNRUK Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 https://youtu.be/PWnXod-HHXw?si=AglZZ9Y7lGBV1vfl Not sure if this version has been posted but it’s my favourite of the live General videos I’ve seen. Nice and close up, decent audio quality too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRRHCP98 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 How we all feeling about the chances of “The General” dropping on streaming this coming Friday? Also, personally, I’m thinking they’re planning a much larger holiday release (perhaps an EP?) which is why there has been no “Perhaps” CD or cassette announcement to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitchisback Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 25 minutes ago, GNRRHCP98 said: How we all feeling about the chances of “The General” dropping on streaming this coming Friday? Also, personally, I’m thinking they’re planning a much larger holiday release (perhaps an EP?) which is why there has been no “Perhaps” CD or cassette announcement to date. Eh I kinda just feel like the hard skool CD and cassette didn't sell that well so they just did the vinyl this time lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRRHCP98 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Bitchisback said: Eh I kinda just feel like the hard skool CD and cassette didn't sell that well so they just did the vinyl this time lol That’s a fair theory… although the lack of even just a CD is still a little intriguing. Out of the three types of physical media, the cassette is definitely the most “gimmicky” imo so I can totally understand skipping that. Edited November 5, 2023 by GNRRHCP98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Blackstar said: I think it's safe to say that Monsters and Atlas are guaranteed to be released at one point or another (not necessarily together - I still think that The General and Monsters are tied together (not as "one song", of course) or at least were going to be released together, but the plan changed probably due to the poor quality of the vinyl pressing. Why would we assume they take off Monsters now just because it's a poor quality vinyl? That has more to do with it just being a poor quality vinyl pressing like many other bands have experienced in the last few years, and they didn't put 9 minute songs on there. This band, when they were one of the biggest bands in the world, released a great sounding 7" vinyl with 9 minutes of November Rain on the A side. All they really need to do is find a better manufacturing facility. So why would we assume they take off a song instead of doing that? Doesn't seem logical to me Edited November 5, 2023 by StrangerInThisTown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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