THE GENERAL - MONSTERS - Official Discussion Thread. NO LINKS OR ASKING FOR LINKS

[axlfan88]

 

3 hours ago, axl666 said:

Just listened to it. It's great. Definitely in the omg/silkworms area.

Oh My God was much more complex than The General.

[DarkLotus1111]

21 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

I listened to the leak of The General after hearing the official FLAC, and I hear the clipping pop in the leak as well.

Now can we officially call it "The Clipping" or "The Clipper"... 

In all seriousness, I wouldn't be surprised if the CDII version has clipping as well. 

[GNRRHCP98]

3 hours ago, axljungle said:

I just bought it in iTunes and hear it with headphones, now I heard the clipping. I think that is because the mix is so loud.

For me is a very good song and the voice could hear it clearly than leak.

Same. The clipping is way more prevalent when I listen to it on Apple Music via my AirPods. A shame, it really detracts from it, hopefully it’s addressed… I still love the song, but it is certainly an annoyance. 

Edited December 9, 2023 by GNRRHCP98

[Draguns]

I hope this is the beginning of the end for the CD era. I would like to hear what this NITL  band can produce. Other than Hard Skool, Perhaps, and Absurd, the only other CD era song that I would officially like to have is Monsters. 

[Sweersa]

12 minutes ago, DarkLotus1111 said:

In all seriousness, I wouldn't be surprised if the CDII version has clipping as well. 

Based on how the 2008 album was mixed, I would guess with high confidence they didn't clip it. 1999 Oh My God was loud, but I don't think clipped. 

[Roseane]

6 hours ago, 2020_Intensions said:

Agreed. I find it ABSURD that people are seriously suggesting The General is better than Catcher, IRS, and others off ChiDem ....

Yep. Makes no sense. IRS , Chinese and Better to name a few are miles ahead of this thing “Absurd”. Makes me sad the direction things are going overall

[evilfacelessturtle]

23 hours ago, AxlRQ93 said:

TSI has an amazing mix. the drums sound great, slash sounds perfect, and it’s raw and loud. Price did a good job but also Mike Clink I think was a lot more responsible for the guns sound than many give him credit. Yes Izzy and Steven were important but I think clink was too. 

I thought the same until I realized the difference between TSI and It's 5 O'Clock Somewhere is the mixing. Both were produced by Mike Clink and mastered by George Marino.

[GNRRHCP98]

Anyone with the vinyl yet? Can ya comment on sound quality for TG on it?

[evilfacelessturtle]

23 hours ago, UncleJosh said:

Amazon Music has all the lyrics for those having trouble with the vocals.

 

21 hours ago, uzi your illusion said:

My Amazon music shows

 

"And not disordered meaning"  as the last line?!?

 

 

These streaming services just grab lyrics from websites. The Amazon Music lyrics I'm getting are identical to those on Genius.com. That different people are seeing different lyrics would seem to bolster this.

[Route66]

The mix is definitely better on the released version vs the demo. Not perfect but better. Plus some of the crap strings have been removed in the pre-chorus. Can hear Slash more on the wah and it's panned across speakers and the rest of the string arrangement is clearer when required. Axl sounds better but it's clipping at times.

Why was Tommy removed from the writing credits is my question.

Edited December 9, 2023 by Route66

[jimisbatman]

How Does the vinyl version sound? 

[Miden34]

so i fucked my computer. long story short do you know where i can get T.V.S. without posting anything you probably shouldnt?

[ToonGuns]

11 minutes ago, jimisbatman said:

How Does the vinyl version sound? 

Poor. It’s a thin sound given the limitations of 7” anyway, but seems to be an average pressing, then once you add the poor mixing / mastering etc to that it’s just a bit muddy overall. Then you look at the artwork and realise they cocked that up as well.

There is a very good song in there somewhere, but needed a different song structure, production, mixing and mastering.

It should have been a 12” 45rpm.

[evilfacelessturtle]

Yup, Amazon uses its "X-Ray" tool that crawls the web for info on songs, including lyrics:

https://routenote.com/blog/amazon-music-adds-more-background-info-to-songs-with-x-ray-feature/

Those lyrics are not official.

[Blackstar]

54 minutes ago, Route66 said:

Why was Tommy removed from the writing credits is my question.

What do you mean he was removed? I guess he's not credited because he didn't co-write it.

[Ak1nney]

Unless the band puts the lyrics out in some capacity, the stuff you see on Spotify and other places is just generated from internet sites and tools that people have submitted. They are complete shit when used on a lot of the music I listen to.

[jamillos]

9 hours ago, fabrph5 said:

Monsters will be the B side of Atlas

Nah, it's not a B-side type of song. Even if you call it "R". Atlas would do, actually. Now that would be a strong fucking single.

[DannyVinyard]

"The general public hates it"

Good. They're the same simps who have fueled GNR's endless cash grab tour.

"Why did Slash accept this?"

Because it's better than all of his solo stuff.

[ChristmasFnatic]

In GNR social media, fans were universally positive on Perhaps, HS, and even Absurd, this got mostly negative ones. So I guess it is not just fans being too casual and too AFD-era cuz they hate General.

[ChristmasFnatic]

6 hours ago, jacdaniel said:

I’ve always thought that this forum is very pro Chinese era. Outside of forums, the opinion is much different. 

So if the new material is getting bad vibes on here then it will get torn to shreds outside of here if anyone is even bothered to listen to it. 

It is. There was a poll on which is the best GNR album, CD won!!!

[Blackstar]

14 minutes ago, ChristmasFnatic said:

In GNR social media, fans were universally positive on Perhaps, HS, and even Absurd, this got mostly negative ones. So I guess it is not just fans being too casual and too AFD-era cuz they hate General.

Definitely not Absurd. The reaction was very negative.

[Free Bird]

7 hours ago, El Guapo said:

The general public hates it, of course.

I just hope that this will be a wake up call for Slash and he either puts his foot down and confronts Axl/ Team Brazil or leaves again. Right now, he's Axl's little bitch and should be ashamed of himself and this release.

I know you know it better and you're acting like a little bitch just out of fun to provoke some people here. And I know it's your disappointment which led you do this and it's ok  but c'mon... Slash recorded his parts for this years ago now and considering how he played it live he couldn't even remember what he fucking recorded in the studio. He won't go anywhere nor will he confront those little bitches from TB. He already played much worse CD songs on stage in front of massive crowds and he's still there. If that's the price for new music than let it be... if there's no new music coming anymore than we're already fucked. 

[ChristmasFnatic]

15 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Definitely not Absurd. The reaction was very negative.

Really? I checked FB during release, many says it is good aside from the occasional “stick to your old songs”. But I myself am not a fan of all 4 lol. Well, HS is acceptable.

[agustingloger]

It's kind of sad that after almost 8 years since the reunion all we've got is 4 CD leftovers. I wish have released them in an EP by 2018/2019 and by now at least one brand new single. a normal band would released a brand new album from scratch already but it is what it is. I feel kind of dissapointed and i should have been used to it already but they always find a way to disappoint again

[PaoloLA]

To be  honest…. Only my opinion  🙄  The  General is good but should have kept under the table. 
Monsters should have been released instead  of TG. Hellva  more catchy and definitely more downloads 

Edited December 9, 2023 by PaoloLA