rumandraisin Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 It lived up to the hype for me. I'm very surprised how similar it was in my head to the final version, going from the string concert intro I really had it pretty spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Remember when we all thought it was going to be a ~10 minute song? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Sebastian Bach made it seem like it was gonna be an epic and super heavy track. Like it was some kind of masterpiece 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) It's interesting more between the two tracks... I still think it's of note that despite not being connected in sequence (that we know of at this point) they share the same Marco B bed of music that used to intro the shows....so, either Axl's brief was similar for both tracks or if on an album, they could follow each other... Belltrami's other orchestration on CD tracks is quite different, so it's an interest thing to dwell on, amongst the myriad of other endless questions Edited January 16 by colonizedmind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, colonizedmind said: It's interesting more between the two tracks... I still think it's of note that despite not being connected in sequence (that we know of at this point) they share the same Marco B bed of music that used to intro the shows....so, either Axl's brief was similar for both tracks or if on an album, they could follow each other... Belltrami's other orchestration on CD tracks is quite different, so it's an interest thing to dwell on, amongst the myriad of other endless questions Rather than back-to-back I think a better idea would be if they were opening (TG) and closing (Monsters) tracks on a full length album (lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 6 minutes ago, Coma16 said: Rather than back-to-back I think a better idea would be if they were opening (TG) and closing (Monsters) tracks on a full length album (lol) That too...who knows...wasn't TG meant for CD3 once upon a time? Perhaps Monsters was too....who knows what Axl had down to actually appear on the follow up circa 2014...maybe a bunch of stuff we knew little about or not at all.... One day, the mist will clear on all this...you just have to live long enough .... Hope everyone is having a good 2024. Happy New Year... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 TG would be a a poor opener or closer for anything imo. Monsters would be cool as either 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wabby Posted January 16 Popular Post Share Posted January 16 Carrie Underwood’s Satellite Radio station was playing The General last night, thought that was kind of cool 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalis Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) 14 hours ago, colonizedmind said: One day, the mist will clear on all this...you just have to live long enough . By now, chances are we'll first die in a nuclear armageddon before GNR releases a new album I'm just hoping I'll enjoy Slash's new album when it comes out. In the mean time I'm listening to all kinds of music. Right now enjoying some Brent Cobb songs (Devil Ain't Done, Don't Know When, Livin' The Dream). I like how they swing. Not Hard Rock by any means But I like a lot of different genres. Edited January 17 by Lethalis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 16 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: TG would be a a poor opener or closer for anything imo. Monsters would be cool as either I feel if they ever release CD2 (or similar), The General leading into Monsters as the last track would be a great closer. Zodiac 13 would be a nice opener, with that piano intro. The 2000 mix of Hardschool also would have been a nice album opener with the long guitar and drum intro. Now, it's trash so maybe they will leave it off an eventual album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 25 minutes ago, Sweersa said: I feel if they ever release CD2 (or similar), The General leading into Monsters as the last track would be a great closer. Zodiac 13 would be a nice opener, with that piano intro. The 2000 mix of Hardschool also would have been a nice album opener with the long guitar and drum intro. Now, it's trash so maybe they will leave it off an eventual album. Axl felt for 20 years that it was trash. Now with Slash‘s input he was happy enough to release it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 21 minutes ago, Free Bird said: Axl felt for 20 years that it was trash. Now with Slash‘s input he was happy enough to release it I'm sure that's it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Sweersa said: I'm sure that's it. Obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 22 hours ago, Wabby said: Carrie Underwood’s Satellite Radio station was playing The General last night, thought that was kind of cool I am laughing at the thought of a soccer mom tuning into the station wanting to hear Carrie sing about Jesus taking the wheel and instead getting an '80s rock band doing '90s/00s electronic/rock sounds singing about child abuse 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumandraisin Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 On 1/16/2024 at 7:57 PM, colonizedmind said: It's interesting more between the two tracks... I still think it's of note that despite not being connected in sequence (that we know of at this point) they share the same Marco B bed of music that used to intro the shows....so, either Axl's brief was similar for both tracks or if on an album, they could follow each other... Belltrami's other orchestration on CD tracks is quite different, so it's an interest thing to dwell on, amongst the myriad of other endless questions They actually don't share the same orchestra bed. While it sounds similar they are two separate pieces. The General was used from 2006 to 11 as an intro and Monsters very rarely in 2010. In Canada for example iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 hours ago, rumandraisin said: They actually don't share the same orchestra bed. While it sounds similar they are two separate pieces. The General was used from 2006 to 11 as an intro and Monsters very rarely in 2010. In Canada for example iirc. Ok...so two very similar beds then? I'm imagining they were produced in close proximity then at least! 4 hours ago, rumandraisin said: They actually don't share the same orchestra bed. While it sounds similar they are two separate pieces. The General was used from 2006 to 11 as an intro and Monsters very rarely in 2010. In Canada for example iirc. Ok...so two very similar beds then? I'm imagining they were produced in close proximity then at least! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 On 1/17/2024 at 5:57 AM, Cosmo said: Sebastian Bach made it seem like it was gonna be an epic and super heavy track. Like it was some kind of masterpiece This is Sebastian Bach though. What does he know about epic masterpieces? He talks out of his ass half the time 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Illusion Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 i don't like "the general" but i heard on youtube only 15 seconds of "Monster" today and i think that's a much better song. I would like to hear an complete version of it. Hopefully soon is the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/16/2024 at 10:57 AM, Cosmo said: Sebastian Bach made it seem like it was gonna be an epic and super heavy track. Like it was some kind of masterpiece That is why I stuck with the theory that Monsters was Part 2 of it, for many weeks after the leak I figured that was the only way I could see The General being the epic monster of a track that Bach made it sound like, if there was more to it all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 9 hours ago, WhazUp said: That is why I stuck with the theory that Monsters was Part 2 of it, for many weeks after the leak I figured that was the only way I could see The General being the epic monster of a track that Bach made it sound like, if there was more to it all Bach said it had a slow, grinding heavy riff with piercing vocals. I think that fits well with the chorus. Whether it is "epic" is entirely subjective. Bach liked it, so do I. People got to keep in mind the band's history of releasing every thing from top notch songs to absolute shit and don't have too high expectations for anything new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Matinator Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Baz also described sorry as Doom Metal, so you gotta take what he says with a grain of salt lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneway23 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I genuinely think Ol' Baz may have confused TG with Monsters, just like we did for a while there. His description more accurately matches the bridge bit in Monsters, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, oneway23 said: I genuinely think Ol' Baz may have confused TG with Monsters, just like we did for a while there. His description more accurately matches the bridge bit in Monsters, imo. I have thought the same, still, it also fits the chorus of The General. Edited January 22 by SoulMonster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYWIFEMYLIFE Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 TG and M could be an outro like TIME part 1 and 2 in Risk album. I finally had the chance to listen to the 7 inch btw and TG sounds a lot better there, or maybe its the system I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmus1 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The General and Monsters will probably be next to each other sequentially if we ever get a release with all of these songs on it. That's as far as their connection goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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