Tour is (almost) over - where do we go now?

[Arnuld]

This probably will not happen but The Sphere in Las Vegas will be looking for legacy rock acts with Gen-X fan bases with money to pour out of their venue and into the casino to gamble at the Venetian. Venue is 18600 seats. I can imagine GNR could sell out at least 10 shows. I saw U2 twice there last month and it is by far and away the best concert experience on earth right now. If GNR does a residency there I might go for a week straight. Wishful thinking……

[JAxlMorrison]

26 minutes ago, DoMw94 said:

That tour ended four years ago. If they were going to put out a Blu-Ray of it, it would've happened by now.

Led Zeppelin reunion show was in 2007. Blu ray and CD release was five years later. Blu rays etc capture a moment in time. It’s not necessary to release them IMMEDIATELY or anything. 

[JAxlMorrison]

2 hours ago, RONIN said:

Well, whatever happens....you have to give Axl massive kudos for what he's put into these past few years of touring. The guy has gotten back to being fit in his 60's, playing grueling back to back dates for 3.5 hrs - 51 shows in 6 months....that's just incredible. He has turned it all around and rehabbed his reputation in a major way. We are talking about a guy who would delay a show for hours if he didn't get a lamb dinner with yorkshire pudding as recently as a decade or so ago. Needless to say, Axl gives much mirth to some of us as a source of mockery - but one must give this man his dues. He has killed it on this tour and so he deserves all the respect for that. It looks like Slash's work ethic and fan service has finally started to influence Rose which is great.

As far as the other stuff - music, releasing material...it is what it is. They don't like to release stuff, they half-ass a lot of the releases, they have horrible management - we know this already. They will never be a high quality high functioning band like Metallica. We've all had years to grieve and accept the state of affairs for what they are. So all that said, one can hope that Axl can let go of his Chinese Democracy era and just drop all the demos and finished tracks as a box set. Just get it out there man. I guess they insist on drip feeding it track by track every year. Fine, I guess we'll take whatever we can get. The real hope is they just release the true treasure trove - the live shows and footage from the AFD and UYI tours. How much we'll get is anyone's guess as it appears the band is wisely trying to avoid scrutiny of their past (see Duff's interviews around the Me Too movement) rather than embracing their past as one of the most debauched and wild bands on earth. So what we get from that vintage era is anyone's guess.

As far as a new album - these guys are way past their prime, it would take a herculean effort from them to make a half decent album. All of them would have to radically up their game and they'd need to get a real producer, not just a yes-man without the balls to tell them something sucks and needs to be redone or left on the cutting room floor. Even the CD rejects are far below the quality of what ended up on Chinese Democracy so my expectations are low here. I think one more final tour and a final one-off show with the AFD-5 would be a great way to go out at this point. Just release whatever chinese outtakes that are left to keep the momentum going. There's no need for new music at this point because all it can do is blemish their near-perfect track record. Someone mentioned on another thread that it would be perfect in keeping with GnR's tradition to just disappear completely off the map a la 1994 after the final show in Mexico - we never hear from Rose again as he leaves the scene in mystery. That would be a fine ending to this story if you ask me. This is an enigmatic band and they did things their way - so leaving with no warning or fanfare, that seems very GnR in spirit.

I might be in the minority here, but does anyone else not care if they release any more 1987-1991 shows? We got the Ritz, ok cool. Let’s see some 1993, 2006, 2010 etc. 

[Tom2112]

26 minutes ago, JAxlMorrison said:

I might be in the minority here, but does anyone else not care if they release any more 1987-1991 shows? We got the Ritz, ok cool. Let’s see some 1993, 2006, 2010 etc. 

I would love some well mixed 2006/2010 shows but I highly doubt that stuff is even near the top of any list of things to get done... Laughable to suggest that there's lists, I know.

I would love to hear the 1993 Chicago show properly released. And it's a crime that the UYI box set came and went without the documentary footage

[JAxlMorrison]

17 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

I would love some well mixed 2006/2010 shows but I highly doubt that stuff is even near the top of any list of things to get done... Laughable to suggest that there's lists, I know.

I would love to hear the 1993 Chicago show properly released. And it's a crime that the UYI box set came and went without the documentary footage

93 Chicago? Do you mean 92 with Coma? Or is there a 93 one I’m not thinking of?

[Tom2112]

6 minutes ago, JAxlMorrison said:

93 Chicago? Do you mean 92 with Coma? Or is there a 93 one I’m not thinking of?

I probably just gave the wrong year, whatever leaked last year

[Blackstar]

1 hour ago, Draguns said:

I doubt that he'll ever go outside the GNR name. He had the opportunity to do so and didn't. It's too late.  I'll always think that it was the wrong business decision for him to be a solo act under the GNR name. The GNR name could have been put in hiatus and would have freed him  to do whatever he wanted with music. That's water under the bridge now. 

 

It could be easier for him now exactly because there's nothing at stake and not much to prove or lose. And he seems a bit more confident in the last few years. He has done guest spots, live and in the studio, and solo appearances (even if it was just singing November Rain at private parties).

[megaguns1982]

1 hour ago, JAxlMorrison said:

I might be in the minority here, but does anyone else not care if they release any more 1987-1991 shows? We got the Ritz, ok cool. Let’s see some 1993, 2006, 2010 etc. 

1993 is a possibility but there is zero chance of anything live from the CD era being released.

[megaguns1982]

1 hour ago, JAxlMorrison said:

Led Zeppelin reunion show was in 2007. Blu ray and CD release was five years later. Blu rays etc capture a moment in time. It’s not necessary to release them IMMEDIATELY or anything. 

They’d have to release something from early in the NITL tour when Axl still sounded decent.

[JAxlMorrison]

2 minutes ago, megaguns1982 said:

They’d have to release something from early in the NITL tour when Axl still sounded decent.

Ok, Houston or LA 2016 right? That’s pretty much the consensus around here? Im saying, the date and year doesn’t matter. It would just be promoted as FIRST BLU RAY FOR THE REUNITED TRIO, as they play the hits that made the famous!!!! Etc. Most consumers wouldn’t care which leg of the tour it came from.

6 minutes ago, megaguns1982 said:

1993 is a possibility but there is zero chance of anything live from the CD era being released.

Sucks. Man would I cherish a Blu Ray from Atlantic City in 2012. 

[Silence]

On 11/3/2023 at 1:33 PM, meadsoap said:

To give you guys an idea, Metallica's current tour is 46 shows over 18 months, with a couple weeks to recover in between each city. GnR just did 51 shows in five months with less than 3 days to recover in between most of them, and the shows are an hour longer than Metallica's. RHCP only does 90 minutes sets.

It's kind of insane what their doing in comparison to other 50+ aged bands.

You’re comparison highlights the intensity GNR operate at and always have compared to other bands. 

[Bitchisback]

Honestly I think what happens is over the next year they release what's left of the unreleased/reworked CD songs.  Wouldn't be surprised if there were 3/4 more after The General and Monsters release. I think they will collect all of them and release them on an album.  And I think they will to and write some new music. Wether it's an EP or a full album or just a few songs to put out on a greatest hits collection. They will release that in 2027 (the 40 year anniversary of AFD) and do another tour for it and then announce a lengthy farewell tour.  This is about a 10 year plan so the farewell tour will probably be in 2031-33.

 

In 2037 if all the key members of the band are still alive and healthy the AFD5 lineup will reunite for a special 50th anniversary show  at the Hollywood Bowl and call it a day.  

[JAxlMorrison]

The problem with a Chinese Leftovers type album is there’s a negative perception out there about CD, and a negative perception overall about the “leftovers,” because Slash and Duff didn’t sit in a room with Axl and come up with them. Casual fans are dumb though. When I’m feeling feisty, I’ll try to explain hey, if these are ChiDem rejects then you’d have to consider Don’t Cry, YCBM, and November Rain “Appetite rejects.”

so yeah…they need to somehow get past that perception that these songs “weren’t good enough” before. Cause that’s what all the snide comments I read say. 

[jacdaniel]

I hope they don’t make an album of the leftovers. Just get them out quickly and move on to make a proper Guns album. 
 

 

[bumcheecksmcghee]

Where do we go?

Where do we go now?

Where do we go?.....

Uh uh ohhhh Where do we go-ah-oh....

Ahhhhhhhhhh

Where do we go now

No, no no no no no no..

Sweet ch... ok I'll stop now 

[Lim666]

11 hours ago, JAxlMorrison said:

I might be in the minority here, but does anyone else not care if they release any more 1987-1991 shows? We got the Ritz, ok cool. Let’s see some 1993, 2006, 2010 etc. 

Highly unlikely that we'll get ANY non-Slash/Duff stuff over the next few years. They both most likely "have" to cash in from any near future release.
Yes, we've got Ritz91, but NOTHING official in live video shows from 1985-1990....so any unseen/unheard(!) Proshot and/or Marc Canter's vaults would be very enjoyable. For AFD 40th anniversary in 2027 a compilation from Canter's ca. 50 audio recordings and ca. 30 video recordings could turn into a great compilation from the early years. Add unheard demos from AFD we havent heard about. We didnt get any live stuff like that from the 30 anniversary LN'L release in 2018.
Axl would have to make peace with Marc first though.
 

10 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

I would love some well mixed 2006/2010 shows but I highly doubt that stuff is even near the top of any list of things to get done... Laughable to suggest that there's lists, I know.

I would love to hear the 1993 Chicago show properly released. And it's a crime that the UYI box set came and went without the documentary footage

Chicago92? Come on, we have this for over 30 years by now, all watched to death, what's the point?
If smth. from UYI should be up, it'd be cool to have some die hards getting involved and letting them pick selected shows WE know that WE dont have any audio/video from. Casue Guns hardly know what we do have or want. Or do a compilation from rare tracks from several UYI shows. A release like Flight666/Maiden did would be an cool option aswell, just add the "Perfect Crime" documantary and gold is out.

[DoMw94]

11 hours ago, JAxlMorrison said:

Led Zeppelin reunion show was in 2007. Blu ray and CD release was five years later. Blu rays etc capture a moment in time. It’s not necessary to release them IMMEDIATELY or anything. 

That was a one-off show of a band no longer together though. It wasn't a show from a band playing practically every week for seven years out of the last eight.

GN'R's logic will be why by a Blu-Ray when you can just buy a ticket? Led Zeppelin's fans didn't have that option

[kingcanyon]

for me it's looking like they'll be back on the road next summer unless SMKC announce dates during the summer because as it stands there tour ends April 29th and they aren't announcing any summer dates unless they do USA/Canada then

[Blackstar]

Just now, kingcanyon said:

for me it's looking like they'll be back on the road next summer unless SMKC announce dates during the summer because as it stands there tour ends April 29th and they aren't announcing any summer dates unless they do USA/Canada then

But there's also Slash's solo album with guest singers coming after that and I assume he will want to promote it and probably do even a limited scale tour in support of it.

[kingcanyon]

2 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

But there's also Slash's solo album with guest singers coming after that and I assume he will want to promote it and probably do even a limited scale tour in support of it.

i forgot about that TBH

[JAxlMorrison]

1 hour ago, DoMw94 said:

That was a one-off show of a band no longer together though. It wasn't a show from a band playing practically every week for seven years out of the last eight.

GN'R's logic will be why by a Blu-Ray when you can just buy a ticket? Led Zeppelin's fans didn't have that option

I dunno, a Blu Ray with Axl and Slash? I gotta figure it would sell well, especially since Appetite For Democracy sold well (for a concert blu ray anyways.)

[Bitchisback]

1 hour ago, JAxlMorrison said:

I dunno, a Blu Ray with Axl and Slash? I gotta figure it would sell well, especially since Appetite For Democracy sold well (for a concert blu ray anyways.)

Blu Ray is on its way out.  Best Buy is going to stop carrying blu ray in store and online next year and target is going to stop carrying them at select stores. 

 

Unfortunately the time for a blu ray is probably passing.  It would be cool to see them put one out tho 

[adamsapple]

15 hours ago, Arnuld said:

This probably will not happen but The Sphere in Las Vegas will be looking for legacy rock acts with Gen-X fan bases with money to pour out of their venue and into the casino to gamble at the Venetian. Venue is 18600 seats. I can imagine GNR could sell out at least 10 shows. I saw U2 twice there last month and it is by far and away the best concert experience on earth right now. If GNR does a residency there I might go for a week straight. Wishful thinking……

They could do something similar in Europe (sans the casino portion) rather than just playing festivals or the usual multi purpose arenas with shitty sound.

Carre Theatre in Amsterdam would be a cool venue for a residency - good sound, amazing atmosphere and a great place to film for a DVD if that's what they want. Tons of tourists but in this case that would actually be a plus to sell out more shows.

[JAxlMorrison]

52 minutes ago, Bitchisback said:

Blu Ray is on its way out.  Best Buy is going to stop carrying blu ray in store and online next year and target is going to stop carrying them at select stores. 

 

Unfortunately the time for a blu ray is probably passing.  It would be cool to see them put one out tho 

Is the idea behind that, that everything is just going to on demand, or are we going back to DVDs lol. 

[JAxlMorrison]

Just thinking about it a little, realized that no matter how much some posters may complain about axl’s vocals, Frank’s drums, the setlist, etc. We’re all gonna be pretty bored during this upcoming long break.