highvoltage Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 it's not really that interesting. I think firing your own mother is pretty interesting. My point was that Axl probably fires/re-hires people in his entourage every other week, including band members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunns Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 America v Brazil in the guns n roses world cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays-Civil-War Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 it's not really that interesting. I think firing your own mother is pretty interesting. My point was that Axl probably fires/re-hires people in his entourage every other week, including band members.I'm not so sure about firing his entourage/management/family. They seem to have some sort of hold on him, I don't think he could fire them, even if it was the kind of "You're FIRRRRRRREEEEDDDD" phone calls that Matt used to get in the day.Now as for the band members, I'm with you. I imagine each member of the band has been fired at least once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 it's not really that interesting. I think firing your own mother is pretty interesting. My point was that Axl probably fires/re-hires people in his entourage every other week, including band members.I'm not so sure about firing his entourage/management/family. They seem to have some sort of hold on him, I don't think he could fire them, even if it was the kind of "You're FIRRRRRRREEEEDDDD" phone calls that Matt used to get in the day.Now as for the band members, I'm with you. I imagine each member of the band has been fired at least once.Well at the end of the day, we can't possibly know, but I kind of take the opposite view on that.I imagine it would be a bit like fighting with your own family. You'll yell at a sibling or a parent without feeling a need to hold back because you know they'll always be there to make up with later. I love my mother, father and sister to death, but I've said some pretty awful things to all of them during heated arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Maybe it's an agreement that Axl doesn't want someone so close to him managing his career. Maybe he wants to place that burden on someone else's shoulders. It might not be such a heated exchange or anger between beta and Axl. It might just be Axl thinking he knows what's best for beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I hope Axl is okay... like why is he always hiding his eyes nowadays? He's becoming like Michael Jackson, man! A posse of yes-men and no true buds to give it to him straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) following this "band" gives me a fucking headache Edited July 5, 2014 by bran 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 MSL: Said :"She is telling other forums that my story is 100% untrue. ..but I've read e-mails and heard phonecalls where sheadmits it.If MSL literally said "[beta] is telling other forums that my story is 100% untrue," and by "other forums" is including me talking to Beta, then MSL is twisting things in his own favour. I talked to Beta but she didn't say anything about MSL or his story, she only denied the rumours of being (currently) fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iftheworld Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 You know. After seeing the Axl video of him taking pictures with women in the lobby and getting pissed at Beta. This doesn't seem impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 MSL: Said :"She is telling other forums that my story is 100% untrue. ..but I've read e-mails and heard phonecalls where sheadmits it.If MSL literally said "[beta] is telling other forums that my story is 100% untrue," and by "other forums" is including me talking to Beta, then MSL is twisting things in his own favour. I talked to Beta but she didn't say anything about MSL or his story, she only denied the rumours of being (currently) fired.Not being (currently) fired ? Did she say that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iftheworld Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 My guess is Axl and Beta have some pretty nasty fights, he fires her, they make up and the rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 what does MSL have to gain from fabricating this story? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Like HV says as long as Axl considers them family they are probably fairly secure in his life. I think the biggest threat to them would be if he suddenly did a 'Simon Cowell' and decided to have a more conventional family life. Although there is no reason they couldn't still be part of this (most people don't want there in laws in such close quarters though). Even if he hired new management at some point I guess there are still roles for them to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Nah. She has experience with ONLY ONE artist and when she joined him, he was coming down from the peak of the mountain. Her experience is very limited. 20 years of basically accompanying a singer who took 13 years to complete an album. I wouldn't take that experience too serious."Executive job" in Brazil, not sure about that. Recently I found out people in Brazil call maids "assistant" or "secretary", and in the end they are just people who help a busy someone. Maybe they do not particularly "clean the toilett", but it's really not that much of a deal as the title sounds.Plus, it makes no sense that she had an "executive job" in Brazil to move to the US to be the nanny of the son of a supermodel. Usually one doesn't go backwards in the working career.Unless you are moving to another country and aren't really fluent in the language, you don't have the right degrees, references... Anyway, I don't know what she specifically did in Brazil and I feel no urge to defend her in any way, but it bugs me that after more than 20 years people still call her nanny or housekeeper. I think it's a cheap shot. That's all. 20 years ago, I was a babysitter too If you have a great job in your country, why would you move somewhere else to start from zero? That makes no sense at all!I'm sorry but I don't think her job in Brazil was a big deal.She's not been a manager for 20 years, at least, not from day one when she was hired by Axl. She started recently, actually, and please name other artists she has managed. You can't. She has no experience in the field, I'm sorry.It may come up as a "cheap shot" and probably reducing her to "babysitter" is incorrect. But saying she has experience managing bands and musicians, it is wrong as well.Political ideology reasons, high level of crime, or high level of corruption. There could be many reasons why someone moves to other country not just finantial security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I wish this was true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoGer99 Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 MSL actually didn't want to say it...he slid the information into one of his post's.If Manets wouldn't have noticed it MSL would have never mentioned it again . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 You know. After seeing the Axl video of him taking pictures with women in the lobby and getting pissed at Beta. This doesn't seem impossible.Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 "Getting pissed" is exaggerating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 We're not getting music either way. Band sucks so much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 We're not getting music either way. Band sucks so much.We just got a live DVD. The release of it probably marks the half way point to the next release of new music -- just to keep us waiting. 2020, here we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 this 'band' is so done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 what does MSL have to gain from fabricating this story? He gets talked about, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 We're not getting music either way. Band sucks so much.We just got a live DVD. The release of it probably marks the half way point to the next release of new music -- just to keep us waiting. 2020, here we go.I really doubt we are seeing an album anytime within the next 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 We're not getting music either way. Band sucks so much.We just got a live DVD. The release of it probably marks the half way point to the next release of new music -- just to keep us waiting. 2020, here we go.I really doubt we are seeing an album anytime within the next 2 years. Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 We're not getting music either way. Band sucks so much.We just got a live DVD. The release of it probably marks the half way point to the next release of new music -- just to keep us waiting. 2020, here we go.I really doubt we are seeing an album anytime within the next 2 years.Your math skills really leave something to be desired. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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