BucketEgg Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: Jesus Christ! What in the hell!? What kind of freak looks up porn videos containing an ape, saves it, then sends it!? Reading all of this is so gross. Benzova who had to deal with this shit in real life.... Edited November 14, 2023 by BucketEgg 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dave_gnfnr2k said: The interesting thing will be, what if Axl backs Fernando? Could it be the end of the band of Axl backs TB and Slash and Duff back Kat welcome to the site dave. If this isn't it for TB then hell knows what it would take 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzysMissy Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Dave_gnfnr2k said: The interesting thing will be, what if Axl backs Fernando? Could it be the end of the band of Axl backs TB and Slash and Duff back Kat + @Blackstar its why we as gnr fans can’t have nice things… like I’ve said previously regarding Fernando and Andre - none of this is news to anyone in the industry. what IS news is just how DEEP he went at the women in the gnr camp. Plenty of credit to share, it’s not about him. The screengrabs being posted are painting a crazy picture… like Axl really empowered this piece of shit to be this way. I can’t imagine he’s happy about any of this. zero chance that “the big 3” didn’t know btw - it’s a pretty calculated move she didn’t name them in her lawsuit. She is going straight at the person responsible, not the guaranteed paycheck. i think she’s taking a stand here. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattromero Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 25 minutes ago, Rindmelon said: It's probably taken time to put everything together. I do wonder if this will lead to Andrei being under the spotlight more. I would have brought Andrei up already but anyone who does it seems is just responded to with passive aggressive comments thrown around by few of his defenders. It's unwise to have him around. What's the matter with him? I've never heard any of this before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CAFC Nick Posted November 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2023 This makes for incredibly hard reading. So sorry Kat had to go through this abhorrence. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2k Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rindmelon said: welcome to the site dave. If this isn't it for TB then hell knows what it would take Thanks, but i'm OG here, I just could not reset my old UN because I dont have access to that old email addy anymore. But yeah Axl needs to dump TB now or it wont be a good look for the band Edited November 14, 2023 by Dave_gnfnr2k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, IzzysMissy said: + @Blackstar its why we as gnr fans can’t have nice things… like I’ve said previously regarding Fernando and Andre - none of this is news to anyone in the industry. what IS news is just how DEEP he went at the women in the gnr camp. Plenty of credit to share, it’s not about him. The screengrabs being posted are painting a crazy picture… like Axl really empowered this piece of shit to be this way. I can’t imagine he’s happy about any of this. zero chance that “the big 3” didn’t know btw - it’s a pretty calculated move she didn’t name them in her lawsuit. She is going straight at the person responsible, not the guaranteed paycheck. i think she’s taking a stand here. The GN'R business entity (Gundam) is among the defendants in her lawsuit, so she has sued the band, too, and Axl, Slash and Duff are named in the lawsuit document for being the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Hahaha, get fucked Fernando! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanecrescente Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Bye bye ShitLipeas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzysMissy Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, Blackstar said: The GN'R business entity (Gundam) is among the defendants in her lawsuit, so she has sued the band, too, and Axl, Slash and Duff are named in the lawsuit document for being the band. Ohhh I missed that - I thought all those properties were TB. ALSO… lol… izzy stayed away, perhaps (sorry can’t help myself there) because he SAW/KNEW the writing on the wall. He doesn’t strike as a TB apologist in the same way Slash and Duff are. Not to joke about any of this of course, but we’ve all made wacky assumptions about this “management” crew for a long time. Cant really deny it anymore that they are scumbags. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post downzy Posted November 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Blackstar said: Which also begs the question how much of all this the band knew. Kat interacted with Meegan quite a bit, so they must have known. Yes. It will be interesting to see the fallout. Will some members demand Fernando step away and if that doesn't happen, does the band continue? This coming Thanksgiving dinner at the Rose household sure will be interesting. Just now, IzzysMissy said: ALSO… lol… izzy stayed away, perhaps (sorry can’t help myself there) because he SAW/KNEW the writing on the wall Izzy stayed away because he wasn't going to get paid what he felt was fair. No other reason. He was around the band back in the day when way worse stuff was likely happening. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Dave_gnfnr2k said: The interesting thing will be, what if Axl backs Fernando? Could it be the end of the band of Axl backs TB and Slash and Duff back Kat My bet is silence from the band, and at best, Axl replacing Fernando as manager with Vanessa while giving him a background job. Window dressing and all that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAU3R Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Honestly if this is true (and I really hope it is and that little pos gets what he deserves), I hope that Axl gets rid of him. If not, I hope that slash and duff (and the other 4) get the hell out of this band and that’ll be the end of GNR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alangarcianr Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Holy fuck … this guy’s a creep i hope this makes the news and Fernando gets what he deserves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dave_gnfnr2k said: Thanks, but i'm OG here, I just could not reset my old UN because I dont have access to that old email addy anymore. But yeah Axl needs to dump TB now or it wont be a good look for the band i figured that might be it. If he see's them as "family" which we know he does then I doubt he will, hopefully the others will apply some pressure & reason with him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post downzy Posted November 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, CAFC Nick said: This makes for incredibly hard reading. So sorry Kat had to go through this abhorrence. Very true. If the allegations are accurate or proven, what a terrible place to operate as a female photographer. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SoulMonster Posted November 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2023 Although I tend to go with the "innocent until proven", in cases like this, with so much detail, I find it hard to believe there isn't a burning fire underneath the pillars of smoke. And regardless, the band can't have these accusations over them even if settled outside of court or dismissed, Fernando needs to go regardless. I am like Cesar on this, "Caesar's wife must be above suspicion". Fernando must go. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzysMissy Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, downzy said: Izzy stayed away because he wasn't going to get paid what he felt was fair. No other reason. He was around the band back in the day when way worse stuff was likely happening. I said I couldn’t help myself… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Gross behavior and gross use of power. Unfortunately this is a wide spread issue in the music business Going at the band’s wallet is probably the only thing that will make them change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manfisman Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 You just can't have Fernando as a manager after all of this anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post downzy Posted November 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, SoulMonster said: Although I tend to go with the "innocent until proven", in cases like this, with so much detail, I find it hard to believe there isn't a burning fire underneath the pillars of smoke. And regardless, the band can't have these accusations over them even if settled outside of court or dismissed, Fernando needs to go regardless. I am like Cesar on this, "Caesar's wife must be above suspicion". Fernando must go. Agreed. Many of the allegations, like sending inappropriate images or demanding sex, feel like they have supporting evidence like text chains or call records. Plus there are likely those around the band that could corroborate her accounts. I hope Fernando managed his money well because I think (and honestly, hope) his days managing any artist, let alone GNR, are done. Or at least, they should be. 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 If TB ceases to exist as an entity/company then are any NDA's signed by people still enforced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, Rindmelon said: If TB ceases to exist as an entity/company then are any NDA's signed by people still enforced? If competent lawyers have been involved in drafting them then the answer is yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, Rindmelon said: If TB ceases to exist as an entity/company then are any NDA's signed by people still enforced? TB will likely still exist. But it will depend on the terms. And usually NDAs make provisions for these types of situations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAU3R Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 27 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: Jesus Christ! Fucking Jesus that’s awful! I hope she sues the living fuck out of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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