jamillos Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Rindmelon said: I forget how it was worded, but doesn't it basically say in there that she needed permission from Fernando to actually talk to them? I mean, she certainly would have found a way (DM in social media?), but as said above, it may have been more complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, D4NNY said: As a huge Axl fan (like most of us) I believe and hope Axl wouldn’t stand for something like this. He’s made his own mistakes in the past sure but this is just unacceptable. As we all know, Axl has done things that are the opposite to being a role model as far as treating women. However, for all we know, he has never mistreated women who have worked for or with him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsflannel Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Rolling Stone article on the subject, with a 'statement' from the GNR camp... https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/guns-n-roses-manager-sued-sexual-harassment-copyright-claims-1234877430/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAxlMorrison Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Słash said: Logged in after 7 years! hope everyone is doing well. This is extremely disgusing, really kick out TB and get a proper manager. I am honestly not surprised and won't be surprised if something similar happened with Mellisa too. Melissa said in the press that Axl watched her back and stuff. I would hope, that if Fernando pulled any creep shit with her, that Axl didn’t know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomek1985 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Fernando, piece of shit as always. Sorry but as an almost 40 year old parental child abuse victim I will not call it any other way. Scumbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, jamillos said: I mean, she certainly would have found a way (DM in social media?), but as said above, it may have been more complicated. She wasn't held captive. She obviously thought that she would get more out of it by not making trouble then, with his promising coffee table books and such. He also told her he loved her for years, she might have believed it at some point. We will never know that, of course, but for some reason, she only decided to go to court when she was thrown out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, jamillos said: I mean, she certainly would have found a way (DM in social media?), but as said above, it may have been more complicated. I mean you would have to think she could talk to fortus given they dated. But as others have said I think she was close to Meegan i find it hard to believe Slash wouldn't have heard stuff from Meegan about all this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadsoap Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, jamillos said: I don't get it. Ok, she didn't wanna get fired or thrashed or whatever, but if she gathered enough evidence and then showed it to Duff or Slash secretly, are you telling me they wouldn't have lifted a finger?? The lawsuit never says she brought up her concerns with Axl, Slash, or Duff. The only one who it says she tried to talk to was Beta. I doubt they knew. Fernando is an grown man with his own house and his own free time. They wouldn't be keeping tabs on what he's doing sexually, and if Kat never brought it up with them... Plus, if Fernando was cheating (ot attempting to cheat) on his wife with Kat, why would he go around telling people. Edited November 14, 2023 by meadsoap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4NNY Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, axlsflannel said: Rolling Stone article on the subject, with a 'statement' from the GNR camp... https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/guns-n-roses-manager-sued-sexual-harassment-copyright-claims-1234877430/ Here we go.. the storm has now started 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Wasn't she and Fortus dating back in the day? Was he aware of this? I guess even if he was aware he would not stand up to Fernando. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, axlsflannel said: Rolling Stone article on the subject, with a 'statement' from the GNR camp... https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/guns-n-roses-manager-sued-sexual-harassment-copyright-claims-1234877430/ The statement seems only to be about her infringement claims, it doesn't seem to respond to the sexual harassment allegations at all... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRQ93 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Looks (?) like Axl is standing behind Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMachine Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) No acknowledgement of the sexual harassment accusations in that Guns n' Roses statement. Edited November 14, 2023 by SilverMachine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: She did appear at the Hollywood Bowl shows. I was in the back, but I remember introducing her during the show. 14 minutes ago, Rindmelon said: this was my thought too I think I missed this. What shows did Melissa miss? I do recall reading she was ill but only checked out the Hollywood Bowl footage and she was there. And did anybody fill in for her at the shows she missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axls_Moustache_Rules Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 In a statement shared with Rolling Stone, Guns N’ Roses said, “Ms. Benzova was initially contracted to provide tour photography services for Guns N’ Roses in 2010. She worked with the band for 12 years and was paid and treated extraordinarily well. It was only after her services were discontinued in 2022 that she attempted to claim ownership in photos, which her contract clearly states are owned by the band. The band takes these types of claims very seriously, however, all evidence establishes these accusations are categorically and unequivocally false. This response from her comes after the band initiated suit against Ms. Benzova for falsely asserting ownership in the photos of the band.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, axlsflannel said: Rolling Stone article on the subject, with a 'statement' from the GNR camp... https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/guns-n-roses-manager-sued-sexual-harassment-copyright-claims-1234877430/ In a statement shared with Rolling Stone, Guns N’ Roses said, “Ms. Benzova was initially contracted to provide tour photography services for Guns N’ Roses in 2010. She worked with the band for 12 years and was paid and treated extraordinarily well. It was only after her services were discontinued in 2022 that she attempted to claim ownership in photos, which her contract clearly states are owned by the band. The band takes these types of claims very seriously, however, all evidence establishes these accusations are categorically and unequivocally false. This response from her comes after the band initiated suit against Ms. Benzova for falsely asserting ownership in the photos of the band.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4NNY Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Słash said: Wasn't she and Fortus dating back in the day? Was he aware of this? I guess even if he was aware he would not stand up to Fernando. I’m sure he’s fully aware now and this is sure going to cause some tensions within the band, they will surely want him gone but given Axls history with the family… puts Axl in a horrible position. This is a shit show and it is going to be interesting to see what plays out for sure! Edited November 14, 2023 by D4NNY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, James Bond said: I think I missed this. What shows did Melissa miss? I do recall reading she was ill but only checked out the Hollywood Bowl footage and she was there. And did anybody fill in for her at the shows she missed? She had pneumonia. I think her tech guy replaced her the shows she couldn't do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, axlsflannel said: Rolling Stone article on the subject, with a 'statement' from the GNR camp... https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/guns-n-roses-manager-sued-sexual-harassment-copyright-claims-1234877430/ I love how they say they take these allegations seriously just to say in the next sentence that everything isn't true. Edited November 14, 2023 by Stay.Of.Execution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanecrescente Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I wonder if Fernando called her Kat Bendova 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Benzova also accused Lebeis of once trying to force his way into her hotel room after she rejected his requests to drink wine with him at 6 a.m. In another alleged incident from May 2018, Benzova claimed Lebeis tried to force himself on her and “continued to pressure Benzova to succumb to his sexual demands for 10 minutes — physically touching her, coercing her, continually trying to force himself onto Benzova in a dark alley outside of her house.” Jesus christ... this is bad 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZoSoRose Posted November 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) This week, I just saw Metallica. Although I "only" went to one show, they had a 2- night extravaganza for casual fans and diehards, alike where they played new songs, deep cuts, and hits all dispersed throughout 2 completely different sets (and I still felt completely satisfied with the one show). Each set was concise, flowed well, and sounded really good. They have the "snakepit" section with the best spots for fans who can win in their fan club contests. They put out a map on social media of each city they are in with cool landmarks from their past and local businesses that have cool things to do. They have a pop- up shop with exclusive merch. James can still sing and sounds great without forcing his voice to do things it can't do. GNR can't even claim the affordable ticket argument, because tickets to Metallica were affordable to. This week, GNR gets sued because Axl's housekeeper's son (fucking LOL)- turned manager is a sex creep. Why did I choose GNR to be the band I am like this with? 3 minutes ago, Rindmelon said: Benzova also accused Lebeis of once trying to force his way into her hotel room after she rejected his requests to drink wine with him at 6 a.m. In another alleged incident from May 2018, Benzova claimed Lebeis tried to force himself on her and “continued to pressure Benzova to succumb to his sexual demands for 10 minutes — physically touching her, coercing her, continually trying to force himself onto Benzova in a dark alley outside of her house.” Jesus christ... this is bad Disgusting. Throw him in the trash Edited November 14, 2023 by ZoSoRose 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 If Beta knew about this (how couldn't she have) and Axl finds out (how couldn't he), it will destroy him. Collateral damage: album postponed for 10 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit83 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) Now I know why she wanted to do my podcast a few years ago but couldn't. Edited November 14, 2023 by Gambit83 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 "thank you" TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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