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4 minutes ago, Rodela said:

You think he looks like his current self because of what? Booze? Drugs?

He doesn't look so particularly different from how I would assume 60-year olds who have lived with excesses, look. I certainly wouldn't attribute his looks to medication. 

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15 minutes ago, WhazUp said:

Re: the TB stuff, I just think there is so much legitimate criticism about how they have handled things that we don't need to compare Beta to Family Guy's Consuela and do the "no no lemon pledge" bit to get the point across lol

I think so many here are thinking people are saying all critiques of TB are being dubbed as racist - I don't think they are but to me you do see the lemon pledge bit pop up and to me it just is lacking in taste and humor.  Just like the mid-2000s seasons of Family Guy the specific reference is pulled from

 

We can say TB are shit at managing a huge rock band without going there - I know I do all the time

I think the criticism is unfair. Under TB Axl and Slash reunited, went on one of the biggest tours of all time, have had multiple successful tours after, played and headlined just about every major music festival in the world, and became a money making machine after years of playing small clubs.  Last time I saw GnR before the reunion Axl was playing in a casino where bands like Chevelle headline.  They have also put out two box sets with personal photos from Axl's collection.

 

Now I'm not going to say they are responsible for all the success the band has had the last few years but they are certainly doing their job.  Axl is also clearly happy and at peace with them.  For the first time in his entire life he is happy and at peace. So I guess I don't see what the major issue is.  I'm sure it's not the management team preventing Axl from putting out new my music lol

3 minutes ago, Nick85 said:

I’ve had no words from the first I heard of the jukebox leak, and still don’t. Just wild and so so odd. 

I don't think this is as uncommon as you think it is when delays happen. A few examples were cited in articles already.  

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2 hours ago, Blackstar said:

There have been racist connotations in some of the criticism by a portion of the fanbase (not so much on this forum, at least not currently).

For example, there is a popular gif/meme depicting Beta as a stereotypical immigrant maid from Latin America, but I think that most of the people who find it funny don't even realize the connotations.

You can't surely say Beta looking like Consuela from Family Guy is racist... would the same be said if she got compared to Elton John instead? They're just shite management

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Heck, the jukebox leak was probably one of the best things for them. On my work computer, which I’ve never looked up Guns N’ Roses or anything. When I clicked the search bar ‘perhaps guns n roses’ was trending on google search yesterday. I’m not even logged into a Google account. 

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4 minutes ago, kanecrescente said:

You can't surely say Beta looking like Consuela from Family Guy is racist... would the same be said if she got compared to Elton John instead? They're just shite management

I suppose not? And why would something like that would be said?

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12 hours ago, DoMw94 said:

There has never once been a suggestion that they are...

It's right up there in your post...

And yet the band is constantly being booked for tours, and have played the biggest festivals on the planet – one of them twice – since 2016. Obviously the industry and the fanbase think on different wavelengths. That, or they're doing something right

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2 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Sorry to be a pain ....can someone summarise to me what's been going on since the jukebox leak? 

Away from home and can't scroll through the whole thread! 

On another note......found a NITL pinball machine to play for the first time today and made the scoreboard! 

The band removed it from TouchTunes on Sunday night after mainstream music sites picked up the story. Nothing else has happened since but the band did soundcheck Perhaps today

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58 minutes ago, BillConnor_1982 said:

The Doc McGhees and Irving Azoffs of the world laugh at Fernando and Beta 

I don't know about laughing.  TB accomplished what both McGhee and Azoff both wanted but could not achieve: massive reunion tours.

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1 minute ago, allwaystired said:

Sorry to be a pain ....can someone summarise to me what's been going on since the jukebox leak? 

Away from home and can't scroll through the whole thread! 

On another note......found a NITL pinball machine to play for the first time today and made the scoreboard! 

In addition to what Gibson87 wrote, all the tracks from the locker leaks are being pulled from youtube, soundcloud, etc. There's also an active countdown on a Japanese website (streaming platform?) that leads to a Friday release (local time).

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Gibson87 said:

The band removed it from TouchTunes on Sunday night after mainstream music sites picked up the story. Nothing else has happened since but the band did soundcheck Perhaps today

 

4 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

In addition to what Gibson87 wrote, all the tracks from the locker leaks are being pulled from youtube, soundcloud, etc. There's also an active countdown on a Japanese website (streaming platform?) that leads to a Friday release (local time).

 

 

Thanks folks. Really appreciate that as I'm not able to get on here as often as I want at the moment but don't want to miss current events! 

Thanks again. 

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4 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

In addition to what Gibson87 wrote, all the tracks from the locker leaks are being pulled from youtube, soundcloud, etc. There's also an active countdown on a Japanese website (streaming platform?) that leads to a Friday release (local time).

 

 

Yep...surprised they've stuck around for months tbh....I don't think this necessarily means anything (we wish!) Other than this incident and press coverage has sharpened their knifes....

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