saint_seiya Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Axl in 2006 was a beast!! Loved those shows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miden34 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Also please PLEASE listen to monsters first then just before the fade away stops at the end play the general. it sounds like that was supposed to be the order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingouino Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) The band can do great songs and sound. Monsters is killer. But TB is so amateurish… Come on delaying a release due to vinyl quality. Only happens to this group. You should check quality much in advance… The management is not professional because it’s not in their DNA, they learnt and became manager thanks to their relationship with Axl. But whatever they touch it turns out to become shit. And they claim it is never their fault. It is! Perhaps released on juke box, what a joke. GN’R band is great, so when music speaks it does not lie, but the promotion / delivery / communication is total mess since years… Edited October 28, 2023 by Pingouino 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. ritz88 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Perhaps was only played once on my local radio station. They team Brazil does not know how to promote. I'm curious to hear if it was played on other local radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 What's the current concerts intros? I think they should start playing "The General" pre gigs again just to fuck with us....nostalgia too... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Coma16 said: 1999 I think Pele didn't have a chance to say but he thought Axl was really afraid of the millennium bug and was determined to record ALL vocals for the rest of his career before all computers went down... Edited October 28, 2023 by colonizedmind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Monsters is probably going to end up my favorite post- Chinese GNR song. I am digging it, but hoping for a HQ release 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, mr. ritz88 said: Perhaps was only played once on my local radio station. They team Brazil does not know how to promote. I'm curious to hear if it was played on other local radio. It’s up to the record label to promote songs to radio, not band management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiguns Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, mr. ritz88 said: Perhaps was only played once on my local radio station. They team Brazil does not know how to promote. I'm curious to hear if it was played on other local radio. Team Brazil aren't A & R representatives. They have never said they are or listed themselves as music promotors. They handle the bands business affairs. The job of promoting music is the record labels job as that's how they make there money and a return on that money they have invested in the band. Edited October 28, 2023 by kiwiguns 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZoSoRose Posted October 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2023 The General is grating and uncomfortable. Not just the lyrics, but the music too. It fits the vision for the song. Even though both it and Monsters have very standard song structures, they manage to both be completely weird which is what I liked about the Chinese saga. Artistically, isn’t that what The General should be? Maybe Axl is the daddy and we’re all saying “no, we don’t want to!” “Give us Appetite blues rock or TWAT epics!” But no, Axl was our (Mac) Daddy all along Thank you, papa Axl, by take care of us. The General is better than the old one. Totally not Stockholm syndrome… 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Stro said: My first reaction to The General was "uh I can see why it was delayed", and my first reaction to Monsters was "this is rad". The General grew on me after a few spins, but I can see why the label would have been not super keen to put these songs out under the GNR label while trying to recoup the cost of CD. Monsters is like a track from The Fragile with almost Bowie-style chorus. Totally agree with the Bowie comparison. Parts of The General remind me of Bowie's Blackstar, from a melody and instrumental standpoint. And parts of Monsters remind me of I'm Afraid Of Americans. Edited October 29, 2023 by lame ass security 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Bob Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Axls_Moustache_Rules said: >it's a song about child abuse WTF did you expect? So many mullet heads demanding Nightrain version 2. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Bob Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Unagi said: Yes because that's what the world needs right now, a song about child abuse from an 80s rock band, sung by a 60 year old posing as the victim. Jesus, do you people even live in the real world. Do you? You would be surprised to find out about all the kinds of themes explored in millions of songs out there, known or not that known artists, not everything is about unrequited love, anger or being high 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlisOld Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 19 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: The General is grating and uncomfortable. Not just the lyrics, but the music too. It fits the vision for the song. Even though both it and Monsters have very standard song structures, they manage to both be completely weird which is what I liked about the Chinese saga. Artistically, isn’t that what The General should be? Maybe Axl is the daddy and we’re all saying “no, we don’t want to!” “Give us Appetite blues rock or TWAT epics!” But no, Axl was our (Mac) Daddy all along Thank you, papa Axl, by take care of us. The General is better than the old one. Totally not Stockholm syndrome… Hey bud? Take a break. Read this post later. Reflect. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flayer Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Now that I’ve heard it, I wonder why this song ended up being called The General. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miden34 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 i just dont understand how it is still on youtube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, AxlisOld said: Hey bud? Take a break. Read this post later. Reflect. I’m just fucking around. It’s a mess of a song, but I do like Monsters. How goes it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gokken Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Bucketdude_666 said: Still feels off the first leak Drums are out of place in several place, how can nobody feels that? Yes. I agree. I love "Monsters" but there is some flaws and the overall quality is not there for me. Regarding "The General" I think its 0% chance thats the final version. It must be a demo. Someone maybe had these songs but when they saw that an official release was near they took the last chance to do a trade or something just before everyone would get the song anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAxlMorrison Posted October 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2023 The whole appeal of the ChiDem era and all the waiting was “Axl is gonna evolve and make super complex and artistically challenging stuff.” So here we are. Something that’s even further out there than anything on that album. It was really unexpected on first listen, and now I really dig it. I consider it pretty much genius. And slash (if it’s him) did a phenomenal job. His best stuff since UYI. 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Flayer said: Now that I’ve heard it, I wonder why this song ended up being called The General. Seems like a working title according to old interviews that just stuck. Maybe GNR knew the song became an urban legend and wanted fans to recognize what it was on the Perhaps vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Flayer said: Now that I’ve heard it, I wonder why this song ended up being called The General. Random tin-foil theory, the song is about an abusive relationship between the kid and the parent, maybe the parent acted more like a "General" (dictator) more than a parent, and it was a theme inspired when Axl saw Brain's working title for it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRQ93 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 the bassline in general is cool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAFC Nick Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Wonder what happened to the samples from Ben-Hur that Brain mentioned in the AFD podcast? Imagine it went the same way as some of the sampling on Perhaps… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, CAFC Nick said: Wonder what happened to the samples from Ben-Hur that Brain mentioned in the AFD podcast? Imagine it went the same way as some of the sampling on Perhaps… Those were for Seven. Not The General. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRRHCP98 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) Wouldn’t it be nice (and make sense) if “The General (and Monsters)” drops digitally on Halloween, then makes it live debut at the first Hollywood Bowl show? Certainly would get some media fanfare. Edited October 29, 2023 by GNRRHCP98 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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