DingBat Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, uzi your illusion said: I think Monsters is amazing from the first listen. I'm getting there on General but my issue with it is how hard it is to make out the vocals. So if it's an unmastered/demo version it would be unfair to judge. Really enjoy what I can make out though. What version are you listening to? There is a tinkered with version that's a lot clearer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted October 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2023 They should release this on streaming services ASAP and not let the track(s) be judged by poor quality leaks. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhazUp Posted October 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2023 Axl's vocals in the second half of Monsters... damn I never thought anything could top the amazing screams in There Was a Time when it comes to Chinese Democracy vocal moments but this may be my new favorite Axl moment since the 90s on record 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR4Ever2024 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 So the general has to be a mixup of old/new vocals. Axl was in a recording studio in August I believe it was? and Monster has to be 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangit Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Well, has to be said, fucking epic. Bravo. 👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzi your illusion Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, DingBat said: What version are you listening to? There is a tinkered with version that's a lot clearer. I heard one from gnrevolution.com Wheres the version you are referring too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandOla Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, WhazUp said: Axl's vocals in the second half of Monsters... damn I never thought anything could top the amazing screams in There Was a Time when it comes to Chinese Democracy vocal moments but this may be my new favorite Axl moment since the 90s on record Amen. Absolutely loving the vocals on Monsters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, thomase said: i think monster is first then The General but trying figure out are these demos or studio songs It's been registered as "The General and Monster" on SESAC, so The General has to be the first part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonGuns Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 The intro to The General sounds like that Halloween Horror album Slash did a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_seiya Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Been blasting the song on my bluetooth speaker in the living room nonstop, the song really works as a pair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Blackstar said: They should release this on streaming services ASAP and not let the track(s) be judged by poor quality leaks. This. People keep judging how the vocals are hard to hear, but that seems to be a side effect of compression and/or how they captured the audio. Also, this one has clipping in the heaviest parts, a digital copy wouldn't have it this way. My bet is that someone recorded audio from a turntable or even being played on the computer. Meaning it's not an exact copy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tat2d1 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 The General is kinda meh for me. Monsters kicks though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 The General's lyrics certainly themed around abuse, I am curious does anyone remember how specifically it was already known that The General in particular was about child abuse? I can't remember exactly how that came to light before we knew the lyrics themselves from today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, Blackstar said: They should release this on streaming services ASAP and not let the track(s) be judged by poor quality leaks. Another thing to add to the list of GNR “shoulds” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcanyon Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, WhazUp said: The General's lyrics certainly themed around abuse, I am curious does anyone remember how specifically it was already known that The General in particular was about child abuse? I can't remember exactly how that came to light before we knew the lyrics themselves from today I don't think it was confirmed as the general but Axl said in an interview in 2001 that he wrote a song about child abuse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underhardy Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, WhazUp said: The General's lyrics certainly themed around abuse, I am curious does anyone remember how specifically it was already known that The General in particular was about child abuse? I can't remember exactly how that came to light before we knew the lyrics themselves from today In a 2001 press release from the Rock in Rio promoter, it was said that one of the unreleased songs centered around child abuse. Pretty sure that’s the only thing concrete. Through process of elimination, rumors began that the song referred was The General Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, Underhardy said: This just further confirms that Axl should’ve in fact written another appetite. These songs and all of the shitty tacky vocal effects are not good. This is why Axl was told he has 2 to 3 good songs.. can hardly make out half of the vocals. I finally understand why these songs were shelved for decades. Yeah I agree, the general public wouldn't be that into these songs either. 10 minutes ago, Blackstar said: They should release this on streaming services ASAP and not let the track(s) be judged by poor quality leaks. That's why I'm going to reserve judgement until they're out on streaming and I can listen for real. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausagebrain Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I had some bad news earlier today (no, nothing to do with the vinyl delay). But hearing the General at long last, AND the excellent Monsters, really cheered me up. So thanks to whoever has released these into the wild. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingBat Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, Blackstar said: They should release this on streaming services ASAP and not let the track(s) be judged by poor quality leaks. Right, they can just add the track(s) to the Perhaps single, if they weren't intending any fanfare for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, kingcanyon said: I don't think it was confirmed as the general but Axl said in an interview in 2001 that he wrote a song about child abuse 4 minutes ago, Underhardy said: In a 2001 press release from the Rock in Rio promoter, it was said that one of the unreleased songs centered around child abuse. Pretty sure that’s the only thing concrete. Through process of elimination, rumors began that the song referred was The General Thanks guys for the replies! I found an article from 2001 (from here) that also has this: "He admitted not feeling happy with the show last night, and gave some details of the new album: he already has 36 songs practically ready (one dedicated to John Lennon, another about child abuse), and there is a possibility that the album is double , in the style of Use your illusion, one of the compacts would be named after Chinese Democracy and the other would be called PRL" Edited October 27, 2023 by WhazUp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Voodoochild Posted October 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2023 For people saying it's not Slash in The General's ending, that's 100% him. Not only it's his tone, but also he plays fast all the time live, and those licks sound nothing like Bucket's style. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangit Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, saint_seiya said: Been blasting the song on my bluetooth speaker in the living room nonstop, the song really works as a pair With your friend from the 'industry'? 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Voodoochild said: For people saying it's not Slash in The General's ending, that's 100% him. Not only it's his tone, but also he plays fast all the time live, and those licks sound nothing like Bucket's style. Given your knowledge of music, if you feel so strongly about that then I’ll trust you. I didn’t know if it was Fortus possibly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingBat Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, bangit said: With your friend from the 'industry'? 😉 It wasn't him, it was someone impersonating him... poor guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangit Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Voodoochild said: For people saying it's not Slash in The General's ending, that's 100% him. Not only it's his tone, but also he plays fast all the time live, and those licks sound nothing like Bucket's style. Slash all the way. Those licks are almost certainly him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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