SoulMonster Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, DingBat said: I'm so pleased it fits in with the chinese era stuff, no offence to Slash, but I didn't like what he did with Hard Skool and Perhaps, he sounds great here though. I agree. No complaints from me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatBoy Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) What unreleased songs do we actually know hoarders have but haven’t leaked? Edited October 27, 2023 by FatBoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Monsters is growing on me, I was disappointed at first but I was just thrown off by how different the chorus sounded compared to what I was expecting. I really love The General and am baffled everyone seems to hate it. Besides Axl's voice being somewhat difficult to make out at points and the hip hop interlude the song is fantastic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Love Brain's drum fill before heading into the chorus on The General, and the simple distorted guitars under the chorus. Pure rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoForJMark Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Was that the 2023 version or someone just leaked the nu-gnr versions? Sounds to me like The General should've just stayed buried and they should have just worked a bit more on Monsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiedHands Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 The General is somewhat disappointing and seems to be more like a demo to me but I'll be damned if Monsters isn't fucking FANTASTIC. That is honestly what I wanted from Guns N' Roses in the new millennium. This is the big gun for me. God damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAxlMorrison Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Yeah the more I listen, the happier I get. It’s epic stuff like this that most of us claimed to have wanted, and here it is! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Ive listened to it twice, gotta listen a little more to it but… are we sure this is a re-recorded version by Slash and Duff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingBat Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 This to me sounds like a kick ass modern GN'R, fucking awesome! Hard Skool sounded like Hollywood Rose, perhaps is not too bad, but this shit rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansidhe Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, DingBat said: I thought you already heard it? So we reckon it was just some wanker pretending to be them with their "friend in the industry" chat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingBat Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, Bansidhe said: So we reckon it was just some wanker pretending to be them with their "friend in the industry" chat Ah, my bad! Sorry @saint_seiya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axljungle Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I only could hear The General, I miss heard more time the orchestral part, as an intro or as a bridge. Love the 2006 shows intro. Monsters couldn't hear it, I don't know if it's more rocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoMw94 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: No, but the early instrumental demo is likely Me & My Elvis. I only mentioned it because it's one of the few songs we know has vocals. Thought not. Vocals or not, considering we don't know for certain what it sounds like, it seems odd to say it should have been released over stuff that we actually know about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, Spike Killer said: I've listen to the combined two tracks several times. Does this put to rest the idea that the Germany 2006 pre-tape is the General? Or is there a section from that still in the song that I'm not remembering/hearing? The 2006 intro is in both songs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 If I were to guess, I'd say that they started as two different tracks (and I believe that "Monsters" is most likely "Soul Monster") and by 2010 they were merged into one, two-part song. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingBat Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, axljungle said: I only could hear The General, I miss heard more time the orchestral part, as an intro or as a bridge. Love the 2006 shows intro. Monsters couldn't hear it, I don't know if it's more rocker. There's another version kicking about, maybe spruced up by a fan, but it sounds way better and you can clearly hear the orchestra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, default_ said: Ive listened to it twice, gotta listen a little more to it but… are we sure this is a re-recorded version by Slash and Duff? It sounds like Slash … and I can’t see how it would be an earlier version that suddenly materializes. Best explanation is before they trashed the low quality vinyl pressings, someone ripped the songs. I’m baffled by people here who won’t even give it a chance. The one dude who said he couldn’t even finish the song … how can you honestly even call yourself a fan? No one is forcing you to like it though. Also … about people saying it’s muddied or a bad mix. Yes, guys! This isn’t a leak of the master recording or anything. We have no idea how it leaked and where they got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, DoMw94 said: Thought not. Vocals or not, considering we don't know for certain what it sounds like, it seems odd to say it should have been released over stuff that we actually know about. What else do we actually know about though? Of the songs in the CD2 email the only instrumental we know for sure we've heard is Tonto, so I guess I could've said that. Nothing probably sounded much different by 2008 and Eye On You was likely abandoned long before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Blackstar said: If I were to guess, I'd say that they started as two different tracks (and I believe that "Monsters" is most likely "Soul Monster") and by 2010 they were merged into one, two-part song. Why do people think it's Soul Monster and not Monstrocity? Is Soul Monster not the song that Axl described as 'our most Black Sabbath moment'? That's a lot closer to Me & My Elvis than Monsters... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THELINESMAN Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Gordon Comstock said: Why do people think it's Soul Monster and not Monstrocity? Is Soul Monster not the song that Axl described as 'our most Black Sabbath moment'? That's a lot closer to Me & My Elvis than Monsters... Really? I think Axl sounds a bit like Ozzy with the low notes in Monsters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooker Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I think I missed out on the fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THELINESMAN Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Is there a show tonight? Wonder if Axl will mention the leakage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataclizm1 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Monsters is close to "coma" level epicness for me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAxlMorrison Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Remember when Sebastian said The General was a sequel to estranged? Yeah, I’m not really seeing that dude… 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agattuso Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Blackstar said: If I were to guess, I'd say that they started as two different tracks (and I believe that "Monsters" is most likely "Soul Monster") and by 2010 they were merged into one, two-part song. Exactly what I'm thinking. Which means 1) Between this and stuffs like reworking Silkworm Axl been more active in studio since 2010 than we probably thought (which for me is more massive) 2) What leaks are Nu Guns rough mix Edited October 27, 2023 by Agattuso 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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