THE GENERAL - MONSTERS - Official Discussion Thread. NO LINKS OR ASKING FOR LINKS

[gibbinson]

2 hours ago, Grayfox said:

So it seems the 2010 After Party clip is actually Monsters and not The General. And The General is actually entirely new

The lyrics are different!!

 

Who would do this to you?

[DarkLotus1111]

3 minutes ago, LandOla said:

I damned both of these in the first listen but Monsters is really good actually. Not what I was expecting but it's a grower. I apologize for dismissing this at first. 

Yeah they are growers, especially "The General". More music is better than no music. 

[LandOla]

Just now, DarkLotus1111 said:

Yeah they are growers, especially "The General". More music is better than no music. 

Gotta agree you on this. 

[adamsapple]

Just heard it. Not impressed.

Sounds like something from late 90's/early 2000's GNR (Oh My God -ish) meandering too much and with absolutely horrible production.

Some good vocal and guitar parts, but not enough to put this in my GNR playlist.

Seems like he really put out the best songs on Chinese Democracy already and now it's just dripping and dropping the leftovers one by one because those motherfuckers just can't write a decent song anymore.

Will give it another chance when they do it in concert. But it looks like this is the aftermath. Someone over there needs to mop the floor, open the windows and put some flowers on the table.

Anyone getting excited over this must have real shitty taste in music.

[FatBoy]

1 minute ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

Monsters
The General
Oh My God
Absurd
Atlas
Perhaps
Hardschool
State Of Grace
Going Down
Soul Monster

 

That's the album we should've got back in 2010.

‘Who’s the Mack daddy?’ Clearly his finest lyrical moment.

[DK6]

I love them both but im really hoping they are one song.

Monsters sounds like an extended outro to me somehow.

[pbj_jam]

This ain't even THat out there even for uncle Axl, coupled with a simple song structure, try the baddie with headphones on, final rip will rip.

[Spike Killer]

I've listen to the combined two tracks several times.  Does this put to rest the idea that the Germany 2006 pre-tape is the General?  Or is there a section from that still in the song that I'm not remembering/hearing?

[Gordon Comstock]

2 minutes ago, Underhardy said:

You know the vocals are mixed like shit when you can’t even make out half of the words to both songs. Just like Street of Dreams’ demo, or state of Grace, the last lines of the general are just Axl singing the melody, presumably waiting for the right lyrics to come to mind. Both songs just sound completely muffled, with no good structure. The only good part in both songs is really the rasp breakdown on Monsters, and even those vocals just sound a little weird. This fuckin sucks

 

There's like 1 or 2 lines in The General that are hard to understand, same with Monsters (basically just the deep vocal parts)

[Voodoochild]

For Gods sake, this is clearly not representative of the final mix. It’s a leak, probably recorded from another source. 

[OhMyGod1986]

heard both songs once. the general impressed me the first time. however, he will never be able to sing this live, maybe that's why a b-side?
where did monsters suddenly come from? it's not released on vinyl either.

[mamundson]

Sorry, didn’t even finish the songs. Not good.

[DSTK]

1 minute ago, OhMyGod1986 said:

heard both songs once. the general impressed me the first time. however, he will never be able to sing this live, maybe that's why a b-side?
where did monsters suddenly come from? it's not released on vinyl either.

Who cares ha, the 2nd half of monsters is fantastic...general, meh...very demo sounding 

[BangoSkank]

Monsters FUCKING rules - uuuughh this would have likely been the second album. I love when Axl gets into heavy industrial sounds. 

[F*ck Fear]

Anyone transcribe Monsters lyrics?

[THELINESMAN]

Just now, mamundson said:

Sorry, didn’t even finish the songs. Not good.

From the band that brought you Appetite for Destruction and Use Your Illusions, the masters of blues based hard rock 😬 This sounds very…different, unique. If that’s what they were going for, great. Personally I think it’s a waste of what they’re best at. The bits I like are the hints at the old sound, end of Monsters in particular. In parts Axl sounds out of tune in his own song because the key/melody is just so weird. Weird!

[SoulMonster]

The Monsters part is kind of schizophrenic. The break has really angry vocals but the chorus is almost a bit bebop with the woo-hoo's and catchy chorus, makes me want to dance and smile. 

[DK6]

The general is amazing.

I'm so happy!!

[Cosmo]

Monsters is great. The General still hasn't grown on me.

[DoMw94]

10 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

Monsters
The General
Oh My God
Absurd
Atlas
Perhaps
Hardschool
State Of Grace
Going Down
Soul Monster

 

That's the album we should've got back in 2010.

Did Soul Monster ever even make it out?

[SoulMonster]

And yeah, this fits perfectly in with much of the Village leak material. The funk/rnb drums and multi vocal tracks reminds me of Eye On You, the ambient guitar reminds me of State of Grace.

[Gordon Comstock]

Just now, DoMw94 said:

Did Soul Monster ever even make it out?

 

No, but the early instrumental demo is likely Me & My Elvis. I only mentioned it because it's one of the few songs we know has vocals.

[DSTK]

3 minutes ago, DoMw94 said:

Did Soul Monster ever even make it out?

Throw Rock the Rock on then for the sake of it 

[DingBat]

3 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

And yeah, this fits perfectly in with much of the Village leak material. The funk/rnb drums and multi vocal tracks reminds me of Eye On You, the ambient guitar reminds me of State of Grace.

I'm so pleased it fits in with the chinese era stuff, no offence to Slash, but I didn't like what he did with Hard Skool and Perhaps, he sounds great here though.

[F*ck Fear]

Axl Rose, 

Monsters is absolutely amazing, and I'm extremely grateful that you decided to no longer sit on this gem, and let the fans have it!