Popular Post WhazUp Posted December 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) I like The General, but I have to be perfectly honest I listened to "Breakdown" right after it and man I hate to sound like one of those "it isn't the same" people but the interplay of musicians is just on another level. That is what I miss about GNR - musicians sounding like they are in the studio having fun recording tracks together like any other rock band You hear Slash's solo on Breakdown and it is reactive, its feeding off the energy from Duff, Matt, and the rhythm guitars + paino. You have Axl's spoken word reactive to all of that, and everything sounds full of life Even the more traditional sounding tunes like Hard Skool are missing that organic spark of life in it that makes even a mid-song like Shotgun Blues still a fun listen. And so when you see non-hardcore fans ripping on The General, even as someone who likes the song overall, I get it Edited December 9, 2023 by WhazUp 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTK Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: Maiden and the Stones write fresh, quality music that appeals to their bases. GnR release dates 20-year old rejects. You don’t see the difference? It’s a great record The 1st 6 tracks rock !!! Back end is absolutely shit, especially that guff with gaga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, DSTK said: The 1st 6 tracks rock !!! Back end is absolutely shit, especially that guff with gaga That’s my favorite song on the album 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDemocracyRose Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 The song is not the problem. The production is... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 hours ago, adamsapple said: If we had a new song for every unnecessary political commentary Axl made on Twitter we'd be drowing in GNR albums by now. Dude needs a girlfriend badly. 🤡 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 32 minutes ago, Voodoochild said: I don’t think those songs are in the same level as Estranged. But that’s just my opinion. And I do love TWAT and SOD/The Blues. And I agree that they are incompetent with mastering and releasing it, but I don’t see it as a leftover. Good point, maybe I was a bit harsh with leftovers, as Monsters is definitely single material imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, WhazUp said: Even the more traditional sounding tunes like Hard Skool are missing that organic spark of life in it that makes even a mid-song like Shotgun Blues still a fun listen. I listened to Shotgun Blues the other day as I saw someone bagging it and thought I thought it was one of highlights of UYI2..... and, that interplay, that solo, it just flows.... Chemistry in the studio was flowing naturally..... Something the hybrid songs don't have imo. But still like perhaps, Monsters and TG to a lesser extent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: That’s my favorite song on the album Same. Total classic Stones sound... Edited December 9, 2023 by colonizedmind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Production issues aside, I'd put The General in the same tier as Perhaps, though Perhaps is a bit better. They're simple songs that suffer from repetitiveness, but there's some good ideas and nice guitar parts in each of them. Neither are bad songs, but they're also far from great. At least they're a step up from Hardschool and Absurd... Monsters, on the other hand, is in the same tier as songs like Better. Not quite the 'best of the CD era' like TWAT and Prostitute, but pretty damn good. Really seems like they're saving the best for last, assuming they only re-recorded half a dozen songs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Miden34 said: i dont want a group of 60 year old men writing new songs about "I've been thinkin' bout thinkin' bout sex. always hungry for somethin' that i havent had yet." no thank you. At least the general has a meaning behind the song. Patiently waiting for Out ta Get Me Part 2 following Axl's assault allegations. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roseane Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Voodoochild said: I don’t think those songs are in the same level as Estranged. But that’s just my opinion. And I do love TWAT and SOD/The Blues. And I agree that they are incompetent with mastering and releasing it, but I don’t see it as a leftover. Agree. at this stage none of them are lyrically or melodically not even near to estranged. Not sure though if its just incompetence or sort of” now we are gonna do something really experimental “ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roseane Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 hours ago, WhazUp said: I like The General, but I have to be perfectly honest I listened to "Breakdown" right after it and man I hate to sound like one of those "it isn't the same" people but the interplay of musicians is just on another level. That is what I miss about GNR - musicians sounding like they are in the studio having fun recording tracks together like any other rock band You hear Slash's solo on Breakdown and it is reactive, its feeding off the energy from Duff, Matt, and the rhythm guitars + paino. You have Axl's spoken word reactive to all of that, and everything sounds full of life Even the more traditional sounding tunes like Hard Skool are missing that organic spark of life in it that makes even a mid-song like Shotgun Blues still a fun listen. And so when you see non-hardcore fans ripping on The General, even as someone who likes the song overall, I get it Yep. It sounds almost like an assembled song with unwanted parts of different leftovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DarkLotus1111 Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, jacdaniel said: One day we’ll look back and laugh. Remember we waited 20 years thinking The General was the holy grail when it was actually a weird little B side nowhere near good enough for an album. "Seven" is our only hope... But I agree, it's funny though. What confuses me the most is during the October leaks everyone was pretty positive about "The General" and now that's it's officially released. Suddenly most decided that it wasn't worth the wait or just changed opinions about it already. Edited December 10, 2023 by DarkLotus1111 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfacelessturtle Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 18 hours ago, Free Bird said: I think both, TSI and 5 o'clock are perfectly mixed and mastered. Do you not hear the massive difference between them, though? 5 O Clock is so lacking in bass, it's astounding they let that out in such a state. It's not even close to the quality of TSI's mixing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miden34 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 38 minutes ago, DarkLotus1111 said: "Seven" is our only hope... But I agree, it's funny though. What confuses me the most is during the October leaks everyone was pretty positive about "The General" and now that's it's officially released. Suddenly most decided that it wasn't worth the wait or just changed opinions about it already. for me state of grace can save it for me. i wanna hear it with slash and duff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Axl voice sound artificial like AL, and suffer Slash lack too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfacelessturtle Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 19 hours ago, ChristmasFnatic said: It is. There was a poll on which is the best GNR album, CD won!!! Were UYI I and II split up in that poll? Wouldn't really be fair IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfacelessturtle Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 15 hours ago, DeNfr said: Why did you post a picture of Dog the Bounty Hunter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Miden34 said: for me state of grace can save it for me. i wanna hear it with slash and duff I want to hear it with Buckethead. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfacelessturtle Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Gnrcane said: How about, "I've been thinkin' bout thinkin' bout sex but I haven't checked the mailbox for the viagra yet?" I agree, that any new lyrics should be written from an adult perspective and not a teenager perspective. Otherwise, it isn't authentic at all. My only request is for them not to do a "being famous is a pain, poor me" song that many like to do at some point in their career. I can't complain, but sometimes I still do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumcheecksmcghee Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Miden34 said: for me state of grace can save it for me. i wanna hear it with slash and duff State of grace for sure! But the original for me, no copy n paste duff an slash crap.. leave that for the live versions. Give me finck an buck an brain 🤘🔥👀 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arnuld Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 Oh to be a GNR fan. We wait 16 years to hear this song and most people don’t like it. Or think the mix sucks. Or the master. Or the Frogs. Or the lyrics. Bach over hyped Sorry. Bach overhyped The General. It’s too bad these songs had to take on this mythical status. Otherwise we could have appreciated them for what they are. Decent GNR tracks from Axl’s weird period that never seems to end. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BillConnor_1982 Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 I just played “The General” three times in a row at the Rainbow, and they shut the jukebox off. 2 23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arnuld Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 Also to think there are probably people who payed hoarders thousands of dollars for the general. Unreal…. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) I’m wasted af right now and I can objectively say the General sucks but it like it like it’s out fucked up child ” being agnr forum dweller is fucked edit- our* Edited December 10, 2023 by ZoSoRose 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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