Axl Sued For Sexual Assault

[DeNfr]

On 4/21/2024 at 7:26 PM, Ratam said:

Who's is Eduardo Lebeis?

Fernando's imaginary friend

[JimiRose]

2 hours ago, allwaystired said:

There's not really much evidence for that though- there's never any 'kiss and tell" stories or anything or even nany rumours around this stuff. It's a strange existence he seems to lead! 

All the pictures of Axl out at events and in clubs, especially the 09-14 era, he was surrounded by 10 supermodels. The stories of TB and security going into the crowd and picking out girls to go backstage with Axl. The shows where GnR used to pack out the 2/3 front rows with stunning young supermodels. It wasn't richard fortus demanding those girls! The stories of Axl from slash an duffs autobigraphies. There's enough there to join the dots. I think he probably has them sign non disclosures stopping the kiss and tells, but there's no doubt Axl is a hound dog when it comes to sewing his wild oats! 

[Avillart]

On 4/23/2024 at 5:54 AM, Scream of the Butterfly said:

Considering the documents are available online for anyone to read them, why worry that some random person might see the physical copy?

 

I explained in my post why. 

 

On 4/23/2024 at 5:54 AM, Scream of the Butterfly said:

There's nothing about Eduardo's statement to suggest that everyone on the property is paranoid or that it's because of stalkers. The fact that they left the gate open and that there doesn't appear to be much security suggests that they are not paranoid and that there isn't any acute problem with stalkers.

 

If you weren't so invested to oppose me and other users again and again just for the sake of it you could just go and read all the court documents like those of us interested in the thread topic do and see from the history that trespassing has been an issue and that the staff are already denying that Axl lives there.

The "acute" stalkers who are sharing their stories all over social media and the expression of Axl and Beta in the stealthy phone footage will complete the picture for you. And like I've said before, there are plenty more who openly declare they are planning to go to his house "even if it's wrong" and, as one of them expressed it, take as many photos of "people" as I can cause one day life will be over.

Feel free to disagree again just for the sake of it, I'm gonna use the Ignore button here for the first time on this forum. The fact that you single me out for NOT stalking and NOT collecting used bandaids (which almost everyone here and elsewhere finds disturbing) but staying at a hotel in a city where I have family and upon invitation by TB speaks for itself.

 

On 4/23/2024 at 5:54 AM, Scream of the Butterfly said:

So it's acceptable for you to go to his hotel and stick around for an entire day whereas somebody else just driving by his house on a public road is a stalker?

 

It would've been pretty impolite not to, upon invitation to stay and an offer to come to the show that night. Not to mention leaving people mid-conversation. And there was plenty conversation that day. And fun. Something you might want to try one day. 

[Avillart]

2 hours ago, jamillos said:

Hmm, sounds like a Lebeis once again didn't do their job properly... 

 

So "gatekeeper" is a literal thing? 

[Karice]

On 4/24/2024 at 9:31 AM, JimiRose said:

Axl loves attention from attractive women aged 18-25, the more the better. He doesn't seem so enamoured when meeting male fans. He's a rockstar, he's too old for drugs and big boozing, so sex is his main thing. If you want to meet axl, just be a female with a great body aged 18-24 and you'll meet him no problem.  

Are you confusing Older Axl(Today's Axl) with Younger Axl(80's and 90's Axl)? 🤔💡 Because I can't see Older Axl wanting to go date Young Adults who are old enough to be his Granddaughters. For instance, my own Grandmother is only 35 years older than me(Mom and Grandma were Teenaged Mothers). 💡 So, I can't see today's Axl wanting to date some 22 year old young adult who is 40 years younger than him. I'd think the women he'd want to date would be in his decade, like Beta who is only about 6 years older than him.💡

 

 

[JimiRose]

36 minutes ago, Karice said:

 Axl wanting to go date Young Adults who are old enough to be his Granddaughters. For instance, my own Grandmother is only 35 years older than me(Mom and Grandma were Teenaged Mothers). 💡 So, I can't see today's Axl wanting to date some 22 year old young adult who is 40 years younger than him. I'd think the women he'd want to date would be in his decade, like Beta who is only about 6 years older than him.💡

I have been floating around GnR news since 2002, and I can assure you that yes, he wants to be around girls that are 22. He's a guy after all. There have been lots of pics of him with groups of younger girls and supermodels etc over the years. He does try to keep it private, but anyone who has followed Axl for any length of time will have seen these photos, whether here or online in places. Ain't nothing wrong with it, Axl does it behind closed doors, leo di caprio does it in the public eye

[JimiRose]

There are loads of articles like this over the internet from the 09-14 era when I was really closely following the band. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2306273/Guns-N-Roses-frontman-Axl-Rose-looks-far-rock-star-heyday-parties-late--way-ladies.html 

[DeNfr]

it's called midlife crisis, not sure it lasts 10 years

[Rovim]

13 minutes ago, DeNfr said:

it's called midlife crisis, not sure it lasts 10 years

it's called being attracted to much younger women as an older man. the reason is often sexual preference and when a much older man dates a 20- 30 year old woman it doesn't always mean its cause he's in some sort of a midlife crisis. 

in many ways, old men are still who they were when they were younger inside and some are not attracted or not nearly as attracted to women who are closer in age to them if they're in their 50's or 60's for example. 

Edited April 24 by Rovim

[allwaystired]

2 hours ago, JimiRose said:

All the pictures of Axl out at events and in clubs, especially the 09-14 era, he was surrounded by 10 supermodels. The stories of TB and security going into the crowd and picking out girls to go backstage with Axl. The shows where GnR used to pack out the 2/3 front rows with stunning young supermodels. It wasn't richard fortus demanding those girls! The stories of Axl from slash an duffs autobigraphies. There's enough there to join the dots. I think he probably has them sign non disclosures stopping the kiss and tells, but there's no doubt Axl is a hound dog when it comes to sewing his wild oats! 

I remember that weird models thing- they were hiring them in! I remember one of them talking at the time though, saying that they literally just got invited to watch the gig, and that nothing sexual was suggested or implied. 

I just don't see all this sex stuff going on really. It would inevitably be out there being talked about, and he seems to spend all his time time with Beta. 

I mean I've no idea obviously, but it doesn't seem to be going on.....

[F*ck Fear]

I find it odd that so many fans want to talk about the man's sex life. Especially outside of the case at hand. 

[PatrickS77]

8 hours ago, Karice said:

Because I can't see Older Axl wanting to go date Young Adults who are old enough to be his Granddaughters. For instance, my own Grandmother is only 35 years older than me(Mom and Grandma were Teenaged Mothers). 💡 So, I can't see today's Axl wanting to date some 22 year old young adult who is 40 years younger than him. I'd think the women he'd want to date would be in his decade, like Beta who is only about 6 years older than him.💡

Strictly speaking from the physical side, why would a guy, who can get "any" hot young woman (when he throws his celebrity and money into the hat) want to date an old wrinkly grandmother?? Makes no real sense. Strictly physically speaking. Intellectually, that's a different story. But if you're not after a long term thing, intellectual stuff is not really that important. Though there are plenty of older rocker guys who make it work with women young enough to be their daugthers/granddaughters. I think the "problem" is, most men don't have access to that or it would happen way more often. So I'm surprised why you would be surprised about that.

Edited April 24 by PatrickS77

[Karice]

Admins can you please edit my post above me? My Internet glitched and inadvertently posted the same post three times making me look like I was being a repetitive nutcase. 💡

Edited April 24 by Karice

[scottish nutter]

2 hours ago, PatrickS77 said:

Strictly speaking from the physical side, why would a guy, who can get "any" hot young woman (when he throws his celebrity and money into the hat) want to date an old wrinkly grandmother?? Makes no real sense. Strictly physically speaking. Intellectually, that's a different story. But if you're not after a long term thing, intellectual stuff is not really that important. Though there are plenty of older rocker guys who make it work with women young enough to be their daugthers/granddaughters. I think the "problem" is, most man don't have acces to that or it would happen way more often. So I'm surprised why you would be surprised about that.

thats sexist against wrinkly grannies, im gonna phone the polis 

[DeNfr]

some fans... 

[meadsoap]

3 hours ago, allwaystired said:

I remember that weird models thing- they were hiring them in! I remember one of them talking at the time though, saying that they literally just got invited to watch the gig, and that nothing sexual was suggested or implied. 

I just don't see all this sex stuff going on really. It would inevitably be out there being talked about, and he seems to spend all his time time with Beta. 

I mean I've no idea obviously, but it doesn't seem to be going on.....

That's my position. There's young women at the parties sometimes, but there's a lot of companies that specifically hire out groups of models to go to these things for appearances. I remember going to a Motley Crue/Def Leppard concert where they asked women to flash the crowd camera. There was a young blonde a few rows in front me who did it and then promptly walked out the venue right after the photo op was done. 

We never see Axl with any woman outside that backstage environment and no stories from women who have claimed to have sex with him. There have been a few girls who said they were pulled backstage but didn't interact with Axl, or only talked to him for a second and nothing else, and one even said they still didn't know who he was lol. 

Compare Axl to people like Anthony Keidis, Leonardo DiCaprio, Drake, or Mick Jagger. Those guys have tons of stories floating around about them on the internet, with very specific details. You don't go sleeping around like that without there being a ton of evidence left behind.

[Politania]

I guess I'm really behind on the news because I was convinced all along that Axl still lives in Malibu.Are there any rumors about where he lives in ?

Edited April 24 by Politania

[Sweersa]

15 minutes ago, Politania said:

Are there any rumors about where he lives in general?

He doesn’t live inside of that song, only IRS.

[BluegrassBlues]

6 hours ago, JimiRose said:

All the pictures of Axl out at events and in clubs, especially the 09-14 era, he was surrounded by 10 supermodels. The stories of TB and security going into the crowd and picking out girls to go backstage with Axl. The shows where GnR used to pack out the 2/3 front rows with stunning young supermodels. It wasn't richard fortus demanding those girls! The stories of Axl from slash an duffs autobigraphies. There's enough there to join the dots. I think he probably has them sign non disclosures stopping the kiss and tells, but there's no doubt Axl is a hound dog when it comes to sewing his wild oats! 

What's funny is I got the complete opposite view of Axl from Slash, Steven, and Duff's autobiographies, and other stories as well from Izzy. The impression I got was that Axl didn't have a lot of game lol the supermodel thing I get though. That's any ego of any rockstar, and I think a lot of them are scouted out not just by Axl's camp but by the promotors of shows as well to keep up that image of attractive women wanting to go to their shows like a lot of bands did and do 

[Ratam]

1 hour ago, Politania said:

I guess I'm really behind on the news because I was convinced all along that Axl still lives in Malibu.Are there any rumors about where he lives in ?

Axl live in the moon, it is the reason he can't release music 

[Ratam]

1 hour ago, BluegrassBlues said:

What's funny is I got the complete opposite view of Axl from Slash, Steven, and Duff's autobiographies, and other stories as well from Izzy. The impression I got was that Axl didn't have a lot of game lol the supermodel thing I get though. That's any ego of any rockstar, and I think a lot of them are scouted out not just by Axl's camp but by the promotors of shows as well to keep up that image of attractive women wanting to go to their shows like a lot of bands did and do 

It you well describe i feel is pure hypocrisy, supposedly rock is about authenticity....

[Scream of the Butterfly]

7 hours ago, Avillart said:

I explained in my post why. 

You didn't explain why you are worried that the documents at the gate might expose him when the same documents are available online for anyone to read (including yourself) and the lawsuit has been widely reported by news outlets. Any curious neighbor already knows.

7 hours ago, Avillart said:

If you weren't so invested to oppose me and other users again and again just for the sake of it you could just go and read all the court documents like those of us interested in the thread topic do and see from the history that trespassing has been an issue and that the staff are already denying that Axl lives there.

Most likely Axl denied that his primary residence is in Malibu because he was trying to avoid being served or for other legal reasons. He never denied residing in Malibu even in the 90s or early 00s when he had an active stalker, so most likely that's not why he's doing it now. The trespassing mentioned in the documents was in reference to the process server entering the property through the open gate. Other than that there's no mention of trespassers or the staff denying that Axl lives there. If there is, feel free to show me, but do it with an actual quote that actually says what you claim it does.

7 hours ago, Avillart said:

Feel free to disagree again just for the sake of it, I'm gonna use the Ignore button here for the first time on this forum. The fact that you single me out for NOT stalking and NOT collecting used bandaids (which almost everyone here and elsewhere finds disturbing) but staying at a hotel in a city where I have family and upon invitation by TB speaks for itself.

What singles you out is your massive sense of superiority because you are supposedly slightly less crazy than some other fan (when even that is debatable to say the least). 

[PatrickS77]

3 hours ago, scottish nutter said:

thats sexist against wrinkly grannies, im gonna phone the polis 

Well, if the granny is Diana Ross or Joyce Kennedy or Lynn Mabry or Sheila E or Cher, I'll take them any day. 

Edited April 24 by PatrickS77

[Appetitefordiscussion]

4 hours ago, DeNfr said:

some fans... 

If real, that is insane 😂

[Karice]

3 hours ago, PatrickS77 said:

Well, if the granny is Diana Ross or Joyce Kennedy or Lynn Mabry or Sheila E or Cher, I'll take them any day. 

Madonna is still attractive and she's like 66! 😜

Edited April 24 by Karice