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How are you all reading this book of it hasn't been released yet?  Am I missing something?

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Just now, The Holographic Universe said:

It leaked somehow. 

Amazon had it on sale for Kindle for about a day on original release date in April. Then it got pulled for reasons unknown

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3 hours ago, Amaya said:

I am not  knocking any of you. I did not buy the book. I only read parts of Duffs, Slash, snd Steves. I have Mick Walls book which I figure is more neutral. @loke212  @Scream of the Butterfly. Did Matt have an editor, gosh like who? Like what publisher let this shyt go? You want  to sell books and not turn people off. Maty the child with the 7yr. old girl....wtf? Ewwwwe...OMG, I just threw up in my mouth. Adult groupies ,Heidies girls, Perla was a Madame , so what. No big deal.  This here though, ummm, nono. How old was Matt then, 7-9  years old...I hope? If he were older, preteen, 13ish ,oh boy,  that could have been ...nevermind.. He, a child of then 7 years old himself  would not have known  that 7yr girl was obviously sexually abused, but now as an adult he knows and that should have been left out of his book. A secret like that you take to your grave as the saying goes. Not good

 

I only read from the Cult on but he didn’t talk nice about music or art and what it means to him. There are cool stories, but no real insights. Reading his book let’s me know exactly why he was not invited to join GNR. 

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2 hours ago, WillBailey said:

These people need help. I mean he has issues. Telling the 7 y-o story now as an adult when you can clearly understand the poor girl had deep issues is just f**cked up. And the way he writes that is just like he would tell us he ate pizza last night. The writing is awful. Even a teenager with English as a third language would write better stories.

Have you ever read The Dirt? That book was shocking because they would tell these insane stories in a nonchalant way like it was a typical Tuesday. I feel like all these rock and roll books have copied that writing pattern since. Some of that doesn’t hold up as well in 2020 though.

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9 hours ago, LunsJail said:

Have you ever read The Dirt? That book was shocking because they would tell these insane stories in a nonchalant way like it was a typical Tuesday. I feel like all these rock and roll books have copied that writing pattern since. Some of that doesn’t hold up as well in 2020 though.

No. I did not read The Dirt. I am very familiar with The Crue and saw them in concert too for free. I worked at ,my college arena during my college years of 1980s. I like their music which is still good RockNRoll.   Did you  watch their movie, THE DIRT? Of course you did. It is running on Netflix. Funny, hilariously funny. Each of them, hysterically funny. Sadness for each of them . You felt sorrow for them all . They each pizzed you off too. Happy ever after ending too for each of them.  You felt  cheering them on.                                                                                   Their story of their life THEN  ,and was TRUE and yes it holds up.  It is not them today has not been for years ,years, seems like forever now.   From reviews here of Matts book, maybe he was trying to go like The Dirt, but he missed by not having the reader have all of those emotions for him and the end ,being on his side. Maybe he was trying to be like Gene Simmons , but that was Gene and for his fans, it is ok because He  is Kiss. He can do, say, go, etc. no wrong with Kiss fans. He- Owner, founder, decision maker, face of KISS. Matt is not in that position with groups of VR or GnR or The Cult.

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After reading through all this I can clearly see why he isn't the drummer for the tour - they made the right decision.

For all the faults of slash and duff I think they've grown up

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12 hours ago, Amaya said:

The Cult ,Metallica ,story of typical groupies,rocker stuff. ok. Nothing out of the norm. I dare ask and dont know if I should or if you should post,  how old was he with his neighbor? Tell me 7 and not 13 ?

It says "We were only seven...." so apparently they were both seven years old.

Arguably, Matt himself was a victim in this situation if the girl was more developed and the one who was touching him and telling him what to do.

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13 minutes ago, Scream of the Butterfly said:

It says "We were only seven...." so apparently they were both seven years old.

Arguably, Matt himself was a victim in this situation if the girl was more developed and the one who was touching him and telling him what to do.

This story is either way disgusting to tell, Matt should rather look out for a good therapist than a new publisher for his book, if he's struggling with things like this.

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1 hour ago, Amaya said:

@The Holographic Universe@Brownstone drum                                     Do you think those relationships are forever  broken? I do.

I would say so.

I don't think he had a chance of getting back in if that's how he's behaved in previous bands, maybe he would have changed?

His behaviour seemed a bit extreme

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3 minutes ago, DurhamGirl said:

I have not  read the book but two seven year olds...isnt this just kids playing about?

that (if true) is just kids playing around :blink:

"I mean, she knew exactly what she was doing and told me how to please her while she played with my dick."

 

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1 hour ago, EricA said:

This story is either way disgusting to tell, Matt should rather look out for a good therapist than a new publisher for his book, if he's struggling with things like this.

I disagree. He has a right to tell his story even if it isn't a pleasant one.

 

1 hour ago, DurhamGirl said:

I have not  read the book but two seven year olds...isnt this just kids playing about?

Could be. Apparently, it isn't unusual for children to engage in sexual activities with other children. However, even Matt with the benefit of hindsight felt something wasn't right with the girl.

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This book skips over way too many important things. No flow whatsoever!

I remember he first talked about this book right after the RHOF, in 2012. So he had eight years and two ghostwriters and THIS was the best he could do?!

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Agh if this book affects (them not wanting to promote him on videos,etc) the UYI suppose box set for next years anniversary I will hate Fat Sorum for the rest of my life! 

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5 hours ago, rocknroll41 said:

This book skips over way too many important things. No flow whatsoever!

I remember he first talked about this book right after the RHOF, in 2012. So he had eight years and two ghostwriters and THIS was the best he could do?!

Rumor has it the ghostwriters were Charlie Sheen and Bill Clinton.

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If you are a fan of GNR then you know that Matt Sorum is an abrasive character. Furthermore, his playing added a grand stadiumesque quality to GNR for Illusions et al.  He admits in his book having a mercenary quality. It’s understandable that from 2014 he held out in hope that Axl would let him back and that Duff would have his back, but whatever your think of Axl, he tries to do right by his band mates, in particular his current band mates and their families (according to Sean Beavan). If Frank Ferrer is good enough to play in concert with super drummer Danny Carey. Then best to eat humble pie and move on with your life. Matt’s disappointment is understandable but need note have publicly shamed Duff. 

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Have read most of it and I have to say, this is the lowest grade  GNR related book of any kind to date. And I've read 'em all.

While there are some interesting insights, tidbits and alternate perspectives it's largely coloured by a real sense of insincerity,  insecurity, boastfulness and outright boorishness. I am definitely no prude, but the way he talks about groupies and women in general is toe-curlingly cringeworthy. I can't begin to imagine what his wife makes of some of the excerpts. 

As to why he is not on the NITL tour - if you read this book, I think it will become abundantly clear why. If I had not read this book I would still probably consider he was the best option for the reunion but its very obvious now that his general douchery is the main reason and he has no one to blame but himself.

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1 hour ago, themadcaplaughs said:

I pretty much agree with what everyone says about the book. Just a few GN'R tidbits I noticed that I haven't seen mentioned here:

-The first day Matt rehearsed with the band, it started with him just hanging out with Duff and Slash. Izzy came in after a while, and played acoustic demos of a couple of songs (I cannot remember which ones he said, but they are both songs that made the album). He describes the demos as very "raw." After going over the chord changes with Izzy, Slash and Duff start playing over Izzy's song. Matt describes it as basically two different things going on: Izzy playing with the underlying song with his roots-y sound, and Slash and Duff doing their own thing over the song (he specifically mentions how Slash's guitar parts and Duff's bass lines play off each other perfectly). Matt says the second he heard this jamming, he realized this was the Guns N' Roses "sound" and what made them so distinctive. To Matt's credit, I think this may be the most detailed and accurate description of the GN'R dynamic. 

-Lars has been mentioned here a few times, and I think everyone knows Lars is a very competitive man, but it seems like Lars really felt a bit jealous/threatened of Guns N' Roses' success and the amount of their output during the Use Your Illusion era. At different times, Matt mentions Slash and management both getting mad at him for "talking shop" with Lars.

-On the Metallica note, Matt does go out of his way to stick up for Axl in regards to the Montreal riot. As stated earlier on the thread, Metallica kept adding more and more pyro to the show to upstage Guns N' Roses (to the point that Matt believed they had broken their contract - which specifically addressed such matters). Matt says he was a little pissed off when Metallica said the band was just "chilling backstage." Apparently they were all together, and as soon as they got the word, Axl immediately got up and said "let's get out there as quickly as possible." Metallica had insisted on using their own lighting rig and sound equipment/PA, so during a normal show, it would usually take 55 minutes to an hour to get Guns N' Roses' rig ready. That night, the crew managed to do it in 45 minutes, but Matt says that Axl was not lying when he said the PA was malfunctioning. He could hear it from the drum set.

-Dizzy knocked up three different women during the Use Your Illusion tour. Matt suggests child support may be the biggest reason Dizzy stayed with Guns N' Roses through the 1990s. 

-One day during the late 1993-1997 era, Axl came into the studio in a particularly good mood and exclaimed that "I think we may have a good verse and a good chorus." Matt asked Axl to clarify what he mean, and Axl said that he had one good verse for a song, and a good chorus for another song. This was after approximately four years of work. Matt states that this was when he really lost all hope that anything could come of the sessions. 

-During the same time period, Matt was the one who first explained the looping process to Axl. Axl apparently heard some loops in a song Matt produced for another artist. Matt explained the whole concept of Pro-Tools and looping to Axl (Axl had never worked on anything but tape before). After that, Axl became obsessed with looping. This was all at the same time Slash had all but officially left, and Axl was learning guitar. During the few times Axl came in and rehearsed with Matt and Duff, Axl would play some terrible guitar part, immediately scream for the engineer to "loop it," and make Slash and Duff jam on that riff for hours. 

-At one point in 1994/1995, the band finally decided to have the entire band at that point - Slash, Axl, Duff, Dizzy, and Matt meet in one room to have a meeting, air out any grievances, and genuinely try to pave a path forward for the band. Apparently, it mainly turned into Axl bringing up random issues he had with Slash and Duff from the early and mid 1980s; things that neither Slash or Duff actually remembered. When the band finally got to discussing music, Axl brought up "modernizing" the band with synthesizers. Slash went back and forth with Axl on this for a while, but eventually gave up and left the room. This was the last time Slash did anything with the band before officially leaving in 1996.

-Matt actually likes the Libertad record a lot, and says he considers it even more impressive given how fractured the relationship in the band was at that point between Scott and everyone else. As had been stated before, Rubin was supposed to produce the record, but basically dismissed all the songs the band had brought to the table and told them "keep writing." Scott brought up the idea of Brendan O' Brien. Slash and Duff were against the idea because they thought it would just fuel the idea that Velvet Revolver was a Stone Temple Pilots/Guns N' Roses mash-up rather than a true band. Matt, however, was all for the idea just to keep the ball rolling, and Duff and Slash eventually gave in. Brendan apparently really liked all of the songs, and made some "solid" suggestions to improve them; at which point the band commenced recording. I thought this was particularly interesting given how Dave Kushner told this story on Appetite for Distortion a few years back, but saw it as a negative (he felt the band rushed into the second album way too quickly, and should have spent more time working on better material). 

This was really interesting and informative - thank you.

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