scooby845 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Let's hope for more Adler... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IncitingChaos Posted December 15, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2016 28 minutes ago, tsinindy said: You'd think...but he was featured in social media before argentina and played one show a night (down from the two he played previously in Cincy, Nashville and LA). It would just be cool if they showed more footage like this Adler one of each member in the band, then did some throwback videos like "on this day in 1993 Guns N Roses played "insert city/stadium" then had footage from the show. I just thought it was cool that they featured a video of Adler playing...like they should know this is what people want, not tattoo Thursday or whatever 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6lake sa66ath Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Such a bitersweet update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 On 12/14/2016 at 4:26 AM, StrangerInThisTown said: Why? I actually applaud him for figuring that out lol hahahaha me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I know you'll all probably hate me, but Adler has some tempo drifting issues during the snare fills. He goes a bit slower. And before anyone tells me: I agree, Frank sucks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Słash Posted December 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2016 I hope he is there for the shows in 2017 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom-Ass Posted December 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) It is time to stick Frank in the back seat and give Adler a bigger role... They have been touring for 8 months and Frank still sucks... I hope they read the comments from that update because just about everybody wants Adler... Edited December 16, 2016 by Tom-Ass 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlingrl03 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) 22 hours ago, Tom-Ass said: It is time to stick Frank in the back seat and give Adler a bigger role... They have been touring for 8 months and Frank still sucks... I hope they read the comments from that update because just about everybody wants Adler... Or at the very least, more than 1-2 damn songs per appearance!!! More popcorn!!! Edited December 17, 2016 by marlingrl03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 I've said it before and I'll say it again - a compromise for both sides would be to split duties between Steven and Frank. Steven does Appetite/Lies (and Civil War I suppose) and Frank does the rest. That way, nobody has to get fired and we at least get more Popcorn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 11 minutes ago, James Bond said: I've said it before and I'll say it again - a compromise for both sides would be to split duties between Steven and Frank. Steven does Appetite/Lies (and Civil War I suppose) and Frank does the rest. That way, nobody has to get fired and we at least get more Popcorn. Even that would be stupid if you think about it. It's Axls ego that ruins it all, he doesn't realize absolutely no one wants to have Frank drumming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said: Even that would be stupid if you think about it. It's Axls ego that ruins it all, he doesn't realize absolutely no one wants to have Frank drumming. I like Frank. But aside from that, yes, obviously any given Guns fan wants Steven up there full time (myself included - he's my favorite Guns drummer even though I like Frank). However, we also know that Axl isn't going to fire Frank. The only around that would be a compromise - half and half. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, James Bond said: I like Frank. But aside from that, yes, obviously any given Guns fan wants Steven up there full time (myself included - he's my favorite Guns drummer even though I like Frank). However, we also know that Axl isn't going to fire Frank. The only around that would be a compromise - half and half. Or Frank gets into an "accident" mwhahaha..ok I'll stop dreaming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) 21 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said: Even that would be stupid if you think about it. It's Axls ego that ruins it all, he doesn't realize absolutely no one wants to have Frank drumming. It is a shame too. If all the fans hear it, you know Duff and Slash feel it too.. I love that Axl and Slash are back together but they could still be so much better and it still doesn't fully seem like Gn'R to me. When they all go out and take a bow it doesn't even look like Gn'R. It is a shame if it is Axl's Ego that keeps Frank around. I am sure he is a great guy but fucking see ya. If he is that good, he can go start another band and use his time in Gn'R for exposure. Edited December 18, 2016 by Tom-Ass 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jettesnel Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 4 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said: Even that would be stupid if you think about it. It's Axls ego that ruins it all, he doesn't realize absolutely no one wants to have Frank drumming. Of course Axl knows that most People rathet have Adler/Sorum on drums, but he also knows that Sorum Wouldnt sell any extra tickets. He probably keeps Frank because of loyality and he think Frank does a good job, not because of his ego. Why Adler isn't hired full time and play all of his songs is beyond me though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lies They Tell Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 7 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said: Even that would be stupid if you think about it. It's Axls ego that ruins it all, he doesn't realize absolutely no one wants to have Frank drumming. I agree with jettesnel. It's not about ego, but probably more about loyalty and because he think Frank does a good job. I also disagree about the whole no one wants Frank drumming part. I for one like Frank very much. He's probably my favorite GNR drummer next to Adler. I prefer Franks sound over Matt and Brain. So yeah, I just wanted to say this, because usually complainers are always the loudest, so some may get the impression that everyone agrees with them. But there's many people who really like Frank's drumming. We just don't have any reason to be so vocal about it. He's in the band and that's great! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Lies They Tell said: I agree with jettesnel. It's not about ego, but probably more about loyalty and because he think Frank does a good job. I also disagree about the whole no one wants Frank drumming part. I for one like Frank very much. He's probably my favorite GNR drummer next to Adler. I prefer Franks sound over Matt and Brain. So yeah, I just wanted to say this, because usually complainers are always the loudest, so some may get the impression that everyone agrees with them. But there's many people who really like Frank's drumming. We just don't have any reason to be so vocal about it. He's in the band and that's great! You are probably right about the ego thing. But my "no one wants frank drumming statement" comment needs more explanation. It's not like he sucks and that's why people don't want him, he does great now and certainly got a lot better. That's not the reason. The reason is if you could choose between Adler being the drummer for GNR or Frank, 99% of people will want Adler. And the fucked up thing is, look at the situation. Adler is obviously available, so the choice is available, and still Axl decides not to have him. To bring the original drummer of Appetite out for a couple songs, and have a to most fans unknown drummer do all other songs is just plain ridiculous. The fact of the matter is, most fans don't give a shit about how loyal this drummer is. For the fans, he is not Adler or Sorum and that's what it comes down to. To add on to that Adler was the sole GNR member always wanting a reunion in the media and always talking about how much he would love to do it, and then it happens and this is the result for him. There gotta be a line somewhere, what is the acceptable thing to do, and where is the line? Frank is loyal and doesn't deserve to be fired, but the fans want Adler (and some Sorum). Would it be the right decision to fire Frank even though he doesn't deserve it, but then have the fans be extremely happy because 4/5 of AFD is back again? Having Adler back full time would also place Izzy into an uncomfortable situation because he would be "that guy" instead of Axl, indirectly resulting eventually in a full AFD reunion down the line. But Axl has made the decision not to fire Frank, and it blows for the fans, and that's where my problem lies. Sometimes a sacrifice must be made for the greater good, most fans will never accept Frank even if he remains in the band for the next 10-15 years. It's beating a dead horse. With not getting rid of Frank, Axl effectively decided against the fans. Edited December 18, 2016 by StrangerInThisTown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Cavalerra Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Axl was always against the fans, if he was supporting the fans, he will gave up his ego and reunite with Slash ten years ago, releasing 2-3 more album, or even what he could do this year, scrapping the idea of having second keyboardist. Sacrificing for greater good is a ridiculous things tho, let the man do what he wants, he could suddenly retire at the end of the tour and we can't do anything about it. If he was more comfortable to work with this line up then just let it be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlueJean Baby Posted December 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2016 This whole thing is a little odd. First I have never known any musician who decided who should be in their band just because the fans wanted it that way. I am sure Axl will do whatever he feels is right. He did work things out with Slash and Duff, we should be glad about that. Also, the comments about Axl not supporting the fans is reverse of how things usually are... aren't the "fans" usually the ones they support the bands they like. I'm not trying to piss anybody off, this is all my opinion, which I am entitled to. I have been a fan for thirty years and have spent years defending Axl because he is one of the most misunderstood men on earth. He has been doing all he can for years to keep GNR alive, even if he only gets beat up by the fans for his efforts. Can't you be glad they are back and touring so fans everywhere can have a chance to see them?? I've said my peace, I keep reading all these comments and couldn't take it without speaking up. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 13 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said: Even that would be stupid if you think about it. It's Axls ego that ruins it all, he doesn't realize absolutely no one wants to have Frank drumming. Yes exactly! Like I've consistently said, this is axls call or at least he has the final say not just the only voice. I don't think literally no one wants frank drumming as some mods here like Rtcb and some others have openly declared their appreciation for Frank, which is cool, personally I don't hate Frank myself. Axl just sees bad memories and drama with Adler and Sorum and Frank is the complete opposite, he might not be as good but he's drama free, cheaper, and sometimes the more talented guys bring the drama and ego. I for one do hope Axl and or his team read our opinions.. A fair compromise is Adler back in the band permanently playing his own material. I credit the guy for playing you could be mine and others very well but, the only fair thing here is just to have him play his own material. Adler has proven he's deserving as he's been sober, and he's also been very quiet. No interviews no negativity.. NOTHING. Just videos of him playing all kinds of gnr material. And hey even if axls ego ruins this.. Slash and Duff chose to sign up for that ego voluntarily. So... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Pink Rose said: Axl had no problems firing everyone he could before. This is the time that it actually needs to be done. It's ok to let people go that shouldn't be there. Oh this is rich. I love theories on Axl being a control freak 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 15 hours ago, James Bond said: I've said it before and I'll say it again - a compromise for both sides would be to split duties between Steven and Frank. Steven does Appetite/Lies (and Civil War I suppose) and Frank does the rest. That way, nobody has to get fired and we at least get more Popcorn. I'd vote for that! In the end we don't know why Adler got such a limited role in the reunion. Let's hope we'll see a bit more of him in the next leg(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) I don't understand why everyone here considers more or less self-evident that Axl is the only one who doesn't want Adler to play full time. Maybe Slash and Duff would want him to play more songs or prefer Sorum instead of Frank, but are you sure they would want Steven to be the drummer in the whole tour? Edited December 18, 2016 by Blackstar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Well at least one Gunner released something new for Christmas this year 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Izzy please... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stress Fracture Posted December 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2016 5 hours ago, Pink Rose said: Axl had no problems firing everyone he could before. This is the time that it actually needs to be done. It's ok to let people go that shouldn't be there. Steven is the only true member of GNR who was fired and that was a group decision. In terms of ego, Axl has been more loyal to his band mates than they've been to him. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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