An Open Letter To GN'R, Team Brazil, UMG and Those Who Are Ruining The Community

[Trmac72911]

The thing that pisses me off is that almost every fan I know that watches boots would 100% pay if the band officially released the show in good quality. The problem is this band is allergic to new releases and portrays hardcore fans as the enemy. When you have a band who refuses to release soundboards, pro shots, and god forbid a new song or two but happily offers shitty sweatshirts and plane tickets that's the only conclusion I can come to. 

They only care about playing the hits to casual fans because they know they'll make money forever playing songs like NR and SCOM. Every decision I've seen this band and their management (TB Is a fucking joke) make has to do with making money. I'm ranting because it has become crystal clear to me that they have no intentions of releasing anything new; they will continue to belittle the hardcore's while milking this cash cow for all that it is worth. Never seen a major band treat its fans worse than this. 

I'm done with this band. Won't see a single cent more from me. I will stay on Mygnr though because I think you guys rock as a community and have always enjoyed reading the discussions around here. Just wish the band we all loved would stop treating us like dirt on their shoe. 

[Iron MikeyJ]

You can't post a video with a song playing on the radio in the background that's copyrighted. Your video will still get flagged. Live concert footage might fall into this category. Taking down live concert footage, taken by people with their phones does suck, but I stand by my original post. You don't own the music being played in that video, so you are indeed infringing on a copyright. Sure it might have been a "look away" type of thing in the past, but YouTube IS changing. If you want to post videos on that platform you have to OWN 100% of all sound and video displayed, or have permission, period.

Besides, were the effected channels monitoring those videos? If you are monetizing a Guns n Roses performance, that's SO WRONG and you deserved what you got, end of discussion. 

Edited August 2, 2018 by Iron MikeyJ

[baldek]

Welcome to the Guns N' Roses of the 21st century: we may not take your cameras at the show but you sure as hell won't be sharing shit with anyone.

Just history repeating itself.

[zombux]

1 minute ago, baldek said:

Welcome to the Guns N' Roses of the 21st century: we may not take your cameras at the show but you sure as hell won't be sharing shit with anyone.

+ we would sell you the recording for $1000, but we just won't

[killuridols]

1 minute ago, Iron MikeyJ said:

You can't post a video with a song playing on the radio in the background that's copyrighted. Your video will still get flagged. Live concert footage might fall into this category. Taking down live concert footage, taken by people with their phones does suck, but I stand by my original post. You don't own the music being played in that video, so you are indeed infringing on a copyright. Sure it might have been a "look away" type of thing in the past, but YouTube IS changing. If you want to post videos on that platform you have to OWN 100% of all sound and video displayed, or have permission, period.

bollocks.

There are millions of videos of ANY artist that you look for currently on YouTube. There's also TV shows uploaded straight to the platform, not precisely by their original owners.

I know they have rules and stuff but 90% of the time these guidelines are not being applied, unless someone reports the videos.

[Edward Nygma]

1 minute ago, baldek said:

Welcome to the Guns N' Roses of the 21st century: we may not take your cameras at the show but you sure as hell won't be sharing shit with anyone.

Just history repeating itself.

If you make your way to the front row Axl will take your camera no problem.

 

[Lio]

6 minutes ago, Iron MikeyJ said:

You can't post a video with a song playing on the radio in the background that's copyrighted. Your video will still get flagged. Live concert footage might fall into this category. Taking down live concert footage, taken by people with their phones does suck, but I stand by my original post. You don't own the music being played in that video, so you are indeed infringing on a copyright. Sure it might have been a "look away" type of thing in the past, but YouTube IS changing. If you want to post videos on that platform you have to OWN 100% of all sound and video displayed, or have permission, period.

Besides, were the effected channels monitoring those videos? If you are monetizing a Guns n Roses performance, that's SO WRONG and you deserved what you got, end of discussion. 

People like @fernomenoyde and other big channels never monetized on it. The label did. That was mentioned multiple times.

[jacdaniel]

Pretty sure YouTube would die a very quick death if you have to own the rights to the material you upload. People would just flock to other video sharing sites. 

[sl4yer]

Just now, Edward Nigma said:

If you make your way to the front row Axl will take your camera no problem.

 

Axl doesn't give a flying shit. I bet he doesn't even know about the situation. Especially if he is now in vancouver with Angus. 

[Endless2404]

Del called us out for uploading videos and shit but then he tweets some Lee Moses song that's on youtube and it's not even a official video

Edited August 2, 2018 by Endless2404

[Edward Nygma]

Just now, sl4yer said:

Axl doesn't give a flying shit. I bet he doesn't even know about the situation. Especially if he is now in vancouver with Angus. 

I was making a lame joke. Sry.

[cooker]

3 minutes ago, Endless2404 said:

Del called us out for uploading videos and shit but then he tweets some Lee Moses song that's on youtube and it's not even a official video

Amazing. 

[zombux]

4 minutes ago, Endless2404 said:

Del called us out for uploading videos and shit but then he tweets some Lee Moses song that's on youtube and it's not even a official video

report it (I don't have a twitter account)

[sl4yer]

1 minute ago, cooker said:

Amazing. 

To be honest I have very little sympathy for anyone who share anything that they're not supposed to like movies/music/videos.  If someone is concerned about legal ramifications then maybe they shouldn't break the law?

Let the flames begin...

[Jw224]

This band can genuinely get fucked if this is the only official communication we're gonna get. 

Edited August 2, 2018 by Jw224

[cooker]

2 minutes ago, sl4yer said:

To be honest I have very little sympathy for anyone who share anything that they're not supposed to like movies/music/videos.  If someone is concerned about legal ramifications then maybe they shouldn't break the law?

Let the flames begin...

Hahaha

10 minutes ago, Endless2404 said:

Del called us out for uploading videos and shit but then he tweets some Lee Moses song that's on youtube and it's not even a official video

are people calling him on it? 

[Lio]

11 minutes ago, Endless2404 said:

Del called us out for uploading videos and shit but then he tweets some Lee Moses song that's on youtube and it's not even a official video

What a moron. Jesus. He's even worse than I thought.

[RussTCB]

1 hour ago, DPR714 said:

Since the thread is closed. I am just passing along Del's response from a Twitter post about the letter.

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I'd love to say "I'm shocked! I'm disappointed! I can't believe this!" 

Frankly, none of that is true so I just won't say it.

Del's response is just about what I'd expect from him. I'm sure he A) didn't bother to actually read the whole thing and B) wouldn't actually give a shit anyway. 

These people are so consumed with how to work the fans for money that they do not understand the heart of this matter: peoples families are being threatened by people saying they're representing Team Brazil and GNR. 

That's the issue, Del. The issue is NOT uploading content to YouTube. 

Seems to me this is a simple proposition: these people say they are working with and representing you while they are threatening families. Is that true? Yes or no. It's a pretty simple question that deserves a simple answer. 

[downzy]

I've merged the thread on on Del's response to the original thread.  Going to leave this open for awhile for people to discuss.

I'm hoping to confirm a proper response from management at some point.  Apologies as I'm on my scheduled vacation and can't be on this like perhaps I should.  

[ZoSoRose]

Del James' bosses are all former drug addicts and sellers, abusers of women, and thieves. Good on them for changing (it seems), but fuck Del's hilarious high horse

Shame on us for watching youtube videos

Del, you suck

[Iron MikeyJ]

18 minutes ago, killuridols said:

bollocks.

There are millions of videos of ANY artist that you look for currently on YouTube. There's also TV shows uploaded straight to the platform, not precisely by their original owners.

I know they have rules and stuff but 90% of the time these guidelines are not being applied, unless someone reports the videos.

Just because there ARE those videos up there, doesn't make them ok. You can speed also, but happens if you get caught? Same thing. Besides as I've said over and over again, YouTube IS cracking down. If you want to be a content creator going forward, you BETTER be on the up and up, or you'll get shut down.

[cooker]

1 minute ago, downzy said:

I've merged the thread on on Del's response to the original thread.  Going to leave this open for awhile for people to discuss.

I'm hoping to confirm a proper response from management at some point.  Apologies as I'm on my scheduled vacation and can't be on this like perhaps I should.  

enjoy your vacation... please don't let this distract too much. Your deserve personal time without this shit distracting. 

[KURT19]

BTW...

THANK YOU @Archtop for posting this on twitter!  YOU ROCK!

 

[ZoSoRose]

-Hates on Slash for 2 decades

-Axl makes up with Slash to make money

-Instantly starts kissing Slash's ass

This is Del James

 

But wait...! Didnt Slash STEAL audio tapes and bootlegs as a kid?!?!? Del, how can you be friends with such a crook?!?!?!? I even hear Slash watches... YOUTUBE VIDEOS

[cooker]

3 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said:

Del James' bosses are all former drug addicts and sellers, abusers of women, and thieves. Good on them for changing (it seems), but fuck Del's hilarious high horse

Shame on us for watching youtube videos

Del, you suck

I'm sure Del doesn't care about anything that doesn't pad his bottom line. Boss beat his wife? Will I still get paid? No problem. Fans life threatened by someone claiming they work for me? Still getting paid? No problem.