Stay.Of.Execution Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, tsinindy said: Here's what I don't understand...if you are vaccinated...what are you concerned about? I mean if you don't want to get coronavirus and are vaccinated, then don't go. What does other people being vaccinated have to do with you? It's already been proven vaccinated individuals can infect other individuals as can non-vaxxed. The vaccine is to prevent you from getting serious symptoms....you're vaccinated you are protected. Quit worrying about what others do. And, while I am at it, I am vaxxed, I got vaxxed the minute I could. But, what others decided to do does not affect me and what I decide to do. Also, this is not a discussion about whether other folks should consider getting vaccinated or not. This is simply a query as to why you are worried about others being vaccinated if you are vaccinated? Problem is: as long as there are still too many narrow minded people who refuse the vaccine, there'll be restrictions. Yet the unvaxxed people are the ones who cry the loudest about those restrictions. It's so stupid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: iTs jUsT ThE fLu I never said that. Honestly, the flu shouldn't be taken lightly- do you get your flu shot each year? It saves lives. Do you always attact the poster instead of the argument? Edited August 9, 2021 by Coma16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Just now, Stay.Of.Execution said: Problem is: as long as there are still too many narrow minded people who refuse the vaccine, there'll be restrictions. Yet the unvaxxed people are the ones who cry the loudest about those restrictions. It's so stupid. yah for sure, i'm with you on that...but the post I replied to was acting like he wouldn't get the virus if everyone was required to be vaccinated...which is why it is silly to require everyone to get vaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatashame Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 18 minutes ago, tsinindy said: yah for sure, i'm with you on that...but the post I replied to was acting like he wouldn't get the virus if everyone was required to be vaccinated...which is why it is silly to require everyone to get vaccinated. just for the record, i am the one you quoted so if you are referring to me as the one who requires everyone to get vaccinated you misunderstood my post. I did not. I do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMachine Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 28 minutes ago, tsinindy said: Here's what I don't understand...if you are vaccinated...what are you concerned about? I mean if you don't want to get coronavirus and are vaccinated, then don't go. What does other people being vaccinated have to do with you? It's already been proven vaccinated individuals can infect other individuals as can non-vaxxed. The vaccine is to prevent you from getting serious symptoms....you're vaccinated you are protected. Quit worrying about what others do. And there's the rub - its not me I'm concerned about - I'm vaxed - its about other people who aren't. Kids, people who can't for medical reasons, or older folk where the vaccine can only do so much. I say this as someone that knows a previously healthy six year old who now has long covid four months on and can't walk to the other end of their garden without getting out of breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said: I think it is up to the venue and not the artists. That's what some of my concert bands told me when their concerts were postponed or cancelled. But I think the Motley Crue fest has been pushed back until 2022 because Vince is still out of shape and still can't sing let along do a stadium tour.lol I read that Jazz Festival was canceled, and Eagles will asking vaccination proof too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, SilverMachine said: And there's the rub - its not me I'm concerned about - I'm vaxed - its about other people who aren't. Kids, people who can't for medical reasons, or older folk where the vaccine can only do so much. I say this as someone that knows a previously healthy six year old who now has long covid four months on and can't walk to the other end of their garden without getting out of breath. Vince is touring solo this summer actually..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, whatashame said: just for the record, i am the one you quoted so if you are referring to me as the one who requires everyone to get vaccinated you misunderstood my post. I did not. I do not. Right, so I re-read your post and I'm not really clear what you are concerned about? I mean you said you aren't going to go if they require people to be vaxxed, so you aren't vaxxed and that's cool. But, that's clearly the statement you are making b/c you aren't making any other statement lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 I'd tell them to go fuck themselves for asking such a personal question, especially since it relates to medical. Then I'd show them the fake proof. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Top-Hatted One Posted August 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2021 Vaccinated people are getting the Delta just as bad as unvaccinated. Glad I’ve been reluctant to become a guinea pig for a brand new vaccine. While some friends and family jumped right in. it’s amazing the amount of ignorant uninformed people who think the vaccines protect you 97% from getting CVD at all. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top-Hatted One Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Coma16 said: This part is completely untrue. But as you said, people have to learn to live with it. Just like they did with the flu thats has been evolving for 100 years... Right I’ve never gotten a flu shot. What’s the point other than big pharma $$$$$ if I get the flu I get the flu. Just gonna hope for the best. Same with COVID. Just gotta hope I fight off and my immune system is stronger because of it. we just gotta live our lives man! Edited August 9, 2021 by Top-Hatted One 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quikspade Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 The science doesn’t explain why no spike in Chicago after Lollapalooza. Granted there are other factors such as many may be from other parts of the country, but still they are not seeing an unexpected spike. As a person who is vaxed, with his wife and son, and a daughter with previous lung issues that is not vaxed, the reward is not worth it on any level for me. None the less, I’m watching Chicago and Sturgis out of pure curiosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Top-Hatted One said: Right I’ve never gotten a flu shot. What’s the point other than big pharma $$$$$ if I get the flu I get the flu. Just gonna hope for the best. Same with COVID. Just gotta hope I fight off and my immune system is stronger because of it. we just gotta live our lives man! My thoughts (and actions) exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top-Hatted One Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: iTs jUsT ThE fLu Right. You still can get the different flu variants even after you had the flu shot. That’s the point. That is my opinion, not trying to preach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top-Hatted One Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, SilverMachine said: And there's the rub - its not me I'm concerned about - I'm vaxed - its about other people who aren't. Kids, people who can't for medical reasons, or older folk where the vaccine can only do so much. I say this as someone that knows a previously healthy six year old who now has long covid four months on and can't walk to the other end of their garden without getting out of breath. Sorry to hear that but you can still get it even though you are vaccinated and it and spread it to your child. This whole thing sucks for everyone man but what can you do? It’s Mother Nature. Hopefully not a man made error of epic proportions Edited August 9, 2021 by Top-Hatted One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 My guess is, if they require vaccination proof, they’ll also allow you in with a negative covid test if you aren’t vaccinated. So at least your money won’t be flushed down the toilet. But things change so often it’s difficult to determine. Why don’t you collect the ticket funds from the group that’s going? Why are you waiting till last minute? Then it becomes their problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatashame Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 back to the OP question-u shoulda made it a survey to get any producitivity of out it. otherwise we r about to hit the 3rd page of shitstorm and every single pair of eyes stickin to their 2020 point of view and not a single mind changed yet this one side throwing accusations at the other one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzyjim Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Coma16 said: This directly contradicts that UK reported that 54% for Delta deaths were fully vaccinated. But carry on... Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 31illusions Posted August 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2021 Interesting you would blame your friends for having free will rather than blame the band/live nation for forcing people to inject chemicals into their body just to see a concert. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 29 minutes ago, izzyjim said: Nope Do you believe everything you read on the internet that was "fact-checked"? I provided stats from the UK government indicating that that there are more Delta deaths from fully vaccinated compared to not vaccinated. Are you saying the UK government is lying? Can you provide a source indicating the percentages? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stay.Of.Execution Posted August 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, 31illusions said: Interesting you would blame your friends for having free will rather than blame the band/live nation for forcing people to inject chemicals into their body just to see a concert. You'd rather inject bleach, right? 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 3 hours ago, mikeman5150 said: I hope they announce something soon so I can try to get rid of their tickets. I’m not going to be able to convince them to get vaccinated. Why would you have to get rid of their ticket? You bought them for them, no? They told you to buy it for them, no? Tell them how it is and let them figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzyjim Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Coma16 said: Do you believe everything you read on the internet that was "fact-checked"? I provided stats from the UK government indicating that that there are more Delta deaths from fully vaccinated compared to not vaccinated. Are you saying the UK government is lying? Can you provide a source indicating the percentages? Priceless answer coming from you That's from the link: According to data from the U.K., of the 257 deaths caused by the Delta variant, 92 people hadn’t been vaccinated (36%), 47 had received one dose of vaccine (18%) and 118 had received two doses (46%). Therefore, the majority of deaths (54%) were among persons who hadn’t acquired the full protection that is only provided two weeks after completing both doses of the vaccine. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: You need new friends. Yeah. That. If they don't pay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, Coma16 said: Do you believe everything you read on the internet that was "fact-checked"? I provided stats from the UK government indicating that that there are more Delta deaths from fully vaccinated compared to not vaccinated. Are you saying the UK government is lying? Can you provide a source indicating the percentages? I think he’s saying you misinterpreted the data, not that the government is lying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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