jamillos Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 47 minutes ago, Bansidhe said: B side doesn't really mean that that it's gonna be shite. More that it's just not something that would work as a single. I'm positive it's gonna be way better than Perhaps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3coloursbeige Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 It's worth remembering that Civil War was also a B-side ( at least in the Uk it was, initially). My own hunch is that there was never any intention to perform The General live - most likely because Axl can no longer sing it - so that's why it is being released towards the end of the tour...and without much fanfare.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cosmo Posted August 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 11 hours ago, Joraz said: i dunno im a bit less excited for the general knowing its a b side track... Here's some info that might change that: Problem Child by AC/DC was a B-Side to Love at First Feel KISS's God of Thunder was a B-Side to Flaming Youth Motorhead's Born to Raise Hell was a B-Side to Don't Let Daddy Kiss Me Communication Breakdown was a B-Side to Good Times Bad Times by Led Zeppelin Time by Pink Floyd was the B-side on the Us and Them single Hole in The Sky was the B-side to the Am I Going Insane? (Radio) single by Black Sabbath Judas Priest's Jawbreaker was a B-Side to Love Bites Farewell to Kings was a B-Side to Rush's Cinderella Man and finally, November Rain was a B-Side in the Yesterdays single. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumandraisin Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 It's probably a b side because it's not commercial like the other tracks and they're not focusing on it as a single type track. That's all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 And who knows, maybe we'll get another video out of it. But that's crazy talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SoulMonster Posted August 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 This not the case of a band having created a surplus of songs for an album and then decided to release the best songs off the album as singles with leftovers on the B side. This is Axl wanting to release music that means a lot to him and was intended for the follow-up to Chinese Democracy. Maybe he doesn't think less of The General than Perhaps, but it has to do with chronology of the songs, their radio-friendliness, pairing the right music styles together on releases, etc? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illusion1987 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) Led Zeppelin's 'Hey, Hey What Can I Do' wasn't even included on an album . It was the B side of Immigrant Song and it is one of my favorite Zep tunes Edited September 3, 2023 by Illusion1987 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 For some reason, I'm trying to not set expectations too high on this. I do like what I can hear on that cell phone recording, and that seems to be at least 1/3 of the song (2 min). 1 hour ago, jamillos said: And who knows, maybe we'll get another video out of it. But that's crazy talk. I really hope for this to be the case. The Perhaps' video helped a lot and really made a difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bansidhe Posted August 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 TWAT on Kerrang Radio. GN'R Week apparently... Wonder if they've been told to promote them ahead of something 🤔 Presenter complementary about Chinese too... 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dummy Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, Bansidhe said: TWAT on Kerrang Radio. GN'R Week apparently... Wonder if they've been told to promote them ahead of something 🤔 Presenter complementary about Chinese too... Impossible..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNfr Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 still no leak? incredible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyrai Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, Bansidhe said: TWAT on Kerrang Radio. GN'R Week apparently... Wonder if they've been told to promote them ahead of something 🤔 Presenter complementary about Chinese too... I heard Better the other day on that station, very complimentary about the album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 3 hours ago, SoulMonster said: This not the case of a band having created a surplus of songs for an album and then decided to release the best songs off the album as singles with leftovers on the B side. This is Axl wanting to release music that means a lot to him and was intended for the follow-up to Chinese Democracy. Maybe he doesn't think less of The General than Perhaps, but it has to do with chronology of the songs, their radio-friendliness, pairing the right music styles together on releases, etc? Why do we keep using "radio-friendliness" as a factor in any decision making theories? New GnR music doesn't get radio play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwalker19 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 So, I've actually never heard the cellphone clip that everyone speaks of from years ago. Can anybody help a brother out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I wouldn’t be surprised if The General drops sooner than later. Once it’s handed over for pressing the risk of it leaking goes up exponentially, so I have to think they want to be ahead of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 5 hours ago, Carnal894x said: Prostitute is one of my favorite songs on that album. Also from what I can hear from the Vienna after party and if it is supposed to be the "sequel to Estranged" then I have a feeling it's going to be one of the best of the CD era songs so far especially if Axl feels it's ready to be heard finally. Been wanting this one the most along with Soul Monster, I just hope we get to hear the NuGnr version one day. Axl doesn't feel like it's finally ready to be heard. It's just simply one of the very few songs left he has finished that can be released. Axl gave up on this stuff a long time ago as any creative and emotional statement. 3 minutes ago, Jwalker19 said: So, I've actually never heard the cellphone clip that everyone speaks of from years ago. Can anybody help a brother out? If you went this long without hearing it, you might as well just not listen at all, you're very close to hearing the actual song lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 15 hours ago, Joraz said: i dunno im a bit less excited for the general knowing its a b side track... I'm 98,453% sure, it's because "The General" isn't radio and promo friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: Why do we keep using "radio-friendliness" as a factor in any decision making theories? New GnR music doesn't get radio play. Maybe they are hoping for it? Not that I believe they expect to take the world by storm but surely whatever little rotation they can get is of value to the extent that they might do a bit more promotion for certain singles than others, which might be relocated to B-sides with less promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 31 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: Why do we keep using "radio-friendliness" as a factor in any decision making theories? New GnR music doesn't get radio play. And they put Absurd out first, so I put zero stock in release order 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appetitefordiscussion Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I can’t wait to hear an all new gnr song. Especially one that that is apparently really good. Very crazy that this is the first time since Chinese came out that most of us will be hearing a *finished* brand new song 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I just don't see why "it wouldn't work as a single" matters when they're just finishing up old songs and releasing them individually. There's no album that people may or may not buy based off hearing "The General", worse case scenario you release it to stream and people just don't like it. Of course on the flip side, if all they're doing is finishing up old songs and putting them out here and there it really doesn't matter if they tack one onto the single for another. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 4 hours ago, 3coloursbeige said: It's worth remembering that Civil War was also a B-side ( at least in the Uk it was, initially). My own hunch is that there was never any intention to perform The General live - most likely because Axl can no longer sing it - so that's why it is being released towards the end of the tour...and without much fanfare.... But it 100% will be performed live, but unlikely for this particular tour... If Axl was afraid of it, then he wouldn't release it. I think Axl releases material without thinking can he do it live or not. He has the cross the bridge when it comes to it approach... Amazingly he sounded better on Perhaps the first night (still not amazing) and has since got worse and worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixiaofei Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 我有这首歌曲的小样 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General2112 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 55 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: Why do we keep using "radio-friendliness" as a factor in any decision making theories? New GnR music doesn't get radio play. Which is funny because Perhaps had a radio debut before it was released and even played live 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I can’t imagine The General will be released with zero fanfare. It might not get a video rollout like Perhaps, but I imagine it will at least have its own single art and YouTube treatment similar to Hard Skool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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