Mustard Tiger Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but I remember when the locker leaks happened there was some talk that State of Grace might have eventually morphed into The General. Was this ever debunked? Guess we will find out soon enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axljungle Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, LandOla said: The general is a b-side, oh my In Guns N Roses world B-side is not less quality. Guns N Roses récords has great hits un his R-side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Just now, Mustard Tiger said: Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but I remember when the locker leaks happened there was some talk that State of Grace might have eventually morphed into The General. Was this ever debunked? Guess we will find out soon enough! Sebastian Bach's description of The General really sounds like State of Grace. But how likely is it that Axl would change the name? From the fitting State of Grace which is actually the lyrical point of the song and used in the chorus, to The General, which has nothing to do with the lyrics of the song? Besides, people who claim they can actually hear something from the leaked recording of the General say it isn't that similar (or was it the opposite? Still, I don't trust it). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlson-online Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, UseYourDelusion said: All this time and Axl casually drops it as. B-Side. Does it get any more GnR than that?! It’s wonderful to see music being released though and even a video too! Keep it coming Axl! It's a vinyl, there's always a 'b side' in that sense. I mean they could have called it a 'Double A' i guess, but still, it will be released digitally as a standalone single, not as a b 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Wasn't there someone here saying that the general was planned for this date? Kudos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Still remember when Baz first mentioned this song back in like 2007. Now we are getting it for real. Pretty surreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollster42 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Can’t wait till the general comes out but perhaps is awesome and I hope they put Berlin/Soul Monster/Atlas out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Sebastian Bach's description of The General really sounds like State of Grace. But how likely is it that Axl would change the name? From the fitting State of Grace which is actually the lyrical point of the song and used in the chorus, to The General, which has nothing to do with the lyrics of the song? Besides, people who claim they can actually hear something from the leaked recording of the General say it isn't that similar (or was it the opposite? Still, I don't trust it). everytime when someone, even a pro musician attempts to describe how a specific piece of music sounds like with words, it has its limitations. I don't believe for a second that The General and State Of Grace are the same song. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Just now, Stay.Of.Execution said: Wasn't there someone here saying that the general was planned for this date? Kudos Yeah and that same person said atlas is planned for November, so let’s see what happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansidhe Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Thing is, with "b sides" a lot of the time bands would put something a bit special or even experimental on there. The a side would be the actual "single" in that it would have a fairly immediate hook and would get decent radio play (these days more likely streams/views) whereas the b would be something that would be appreciated more by the hardcore fanbase. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bansidhe said: Thing is, with "b sides" a lot of the time bands would put something a bit special or even experimental on there. The a side would be the actual "single" in that it would have a fairly immediate hook and would get decent radio play (these days more likely streams/views) whereas the b would be something that would be appreciated more by the hardcore fanbase. yeah the b side doesn't always mean the quality is lower, it's often more of a deep cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 All our.craziness.... Setlist catches Silent rehearsals sleuthing Intricate year on year combing of interviews/comments We.Made.It We were proved right all along. This day was written in history and we live to see that day. Now I'm gonna hit my local wateringhole and drop some quarters on the Jukey... NO! Colonized, you don't need to do that anymore....GNR the normal band from the future have arrived today "WHAT YEAR IS IT???" 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Just the fact that this is going to happen is amazing. I may not care to see the Live show these days, but keep releasing music! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nikosgnr Posted August 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2023 I think the only person we really have to thank for this is Axl. He pulled the trigger. He’s in a great mood with this tour. You can see it in every goddamn show. So yeah, @Dexter THANK YOU. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) Can I ask, why do the fans think this song is some sort of epic. What substance do we have to go on that it's actually any good? And before someone mentions Sebastian Bach or anyone else, they all talked up the other CD songs more than what they were Edited August 18, 2023 by Axl_morris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacroix Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Didn't see that coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, tommyrai said: Hopefully we get another extra if the general is a b side Well there may be varying LPs that also include a few live cuts like before. Think we got 4 different live cuts over all the releases latst time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterman Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Wonder which is the b-side to Atlas - coming this christmas (perhaps) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Axl_morris said: Can I ask, why do the fans think this song is some sort of epic. What substance do we have to go on that it's actually any good? And before someone mentions Sebastian Bach or anyone else, they all talked up the other CD songs more than what they were As far as "epic" goes, Slash indicated that while Hard Skool and Absurd were sort-of simple songs, they had a couple of more epic songs ready to be released (paraphrasing). Then we know that Axl wanted Beltrami to work on orchestral arrangement, suggesting that this could be similar to other complex songs like Estranged and November Rain that features orchestration. And lastly, people who claim to understand the recording from the party, and combined with the orchestral intro used at live shows, could suggest this is an epic song. As for whether it is any good. Well, I guess people who like the complex songs from Axl expect to like this one, too. And some like what they hear at the recording from the party, or just what evader came up with inspired from it. Then we have the fact that Brain, Fernando and Bach seem to like it. Edited August 18, 2023 by SoulMonster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterman Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 And also the spotify sightings of the General leading to GNR makes me wonder that before also Soul monster has been one of the titles that has brought up GNR together with Atlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_k Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Quick question - Did Absurd get an actual release or was it just released as a live version on the Hard Skool single? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inho Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 I just want to remind everyone how important it is to occasionally reflect and be thankful… it wasn’t that long ago that axl duff and slash weren’t on speaking terms and now we see them on stage rocking like fuck for three hour shows… it’s wasn’t too long ago that they had that mad fella with the chickens shitting all over the studio and a box in his head. now we have actual new songs and official videos …. free at last free at last…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_school_gnr_fan Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Ak1nney said: I wonder if we get The General in September? That gives them a chance to play it on tour AND promote the 7". Yeah, I'm sure the digital copy of The General will be available toward the end of September/early October. Kind of makes me wonder if there will be an EP of Absurd, Hard Skool, Perhaps, and The General, plus another new song or two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, brad_k said: Quick question - Did Absurd get an actual release or was it just released as a live version on the Hard Skool single? Absurd got an actual studio release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_k Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Just now, Rovim said: Absurd got an actual studio release Sorry I didn’t word it properly, was it physically released (ie vinyl, CD)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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