Cory Trevor Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) WOW this sounds so much better, prostitute still sounds like the final 2008 cut in terms of vocals, with less layering and pitch correction. just all around alot better imo. so much less bloat. EDIT: FUCK ME theres another mix thats even cleaner Edited August 29, 2019 by Cory Trevor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonicjam Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Yep, these mixes are INCREDIBLE!! especially IRS and Catcher. Can someone summarise the story here though. Is there more to come? Has someone been leaking these all night? Or did they qll leak together? Thanks!! And what an awesome suprise!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem16 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Lol even Prostitute vol. 3 differs from Prostitute vol.2, i mean mixes. WOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl4yer Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 It all sound so fucking awesome! Axl, or label, or ezrin or whoever decison it was to fucking up with these tracks until 2008. Why? It all sound so much better,a lot more power , warmer sound, rawer vocal sounds much better too I will never listen to album again, after these leaks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem16 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, sl4yer said: It all sound so fucking awesome! Axl, or label, or ezrin or whoever decison it was to fucking up with these tracks until 2008. Why? It all sound so much better,a lot more power , warmer sound, rawer vocal sounds much better too I will never listen to album again, after these leaks This. 100% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) So for as far as I've seen there's: Going Down (Ver. 1) Catcher chinesejosh Rhiadjosh Jackie Chan IRS [Version 2] Prostitute [Version 2] Prostitute [Version 3] The Blues T.W.A.T Is that it? Or are there more out there? Another question, as I can't listen to them now - is Brian May on any of these versions? Edited August 29, 2019 by username 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Trevor Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 the blues is SO dope ahhhh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsalinger Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Bob Ezrin - Talking about a meeting with Axl in October 2000 "...when he sat down, he started saying to me that he has finished the record. And I said “Axl, we are not ready to mix this record. This record isn’t ready to be mixed”.I said “there are two great songs on it and I know that you’re capable of more, that’s the reason why I’m here. You’re such a great talent and I would do you a disservice if I didn’t tell you the truth, which is that most of the songs aren’t great. But I‘m very happy to help you get there and I believe that it’s possible, if you would like to continue to work on the record, to make it better”.He said “I don’t agree with that. We are ready to mix”. And I told him “you have my number, if you change your mind let me know..." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lipfel Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Holographic Universe said: This place is a cesspool vacuum. There is almost zero difference between these ‘99 leaks and the album release. And, people here are praising some negligible difference with extreme hyperbole. I really think, some of us (me included) analysed every part of every live song pre 2008 with the imagination "Man, what would a studio-version sound like...". And then the studio-versions came and about some songs, you couldn't help but feel a little bit underwhelmed. Prime examples for me would be Street Of Dreams and Catcher. The Blues was probably my favourite song but I simply can't stand the studio-version because of the mix and Ron (to be exact: I adore Rons contributions, for example I'm one of the few people who think his Rhiad-Solo is just perfect for the song, much better than before, I just can't stand his guitar tone on The Blues and Catcher, did he use his Line6 amps-still?). Now we have a high quality version with the synths high in the mix, perfect! Or Catcher, Robins (?) rhythm-guitar in the outro is so much more audible due to Brian starting his outro-solo later than Bumble. Perfect aswell! I think someone mentioned, it was "cathartic", to listen to Catcher, that was my feeling aswell. Two additional things I noticed: Catcher isn't the same as the 2006 leak because a guitar overdub in the intro is missing there (which I almost always assumed was Bumble since it was first heard in the studio-version). And I'm still waiting, from which songs Axl performed parts in his 2002 Piano-Solos. For example, there are two parts here after the Asshole song, which aren't part of any song, right? Atleast the second part after Asshole sure sounds like a songpart, just like the Prostitute-excerpt. Edited August 29, 2019 by Lipfel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affirmation Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) This is an amazing time for all of the Guns N' Roses fans, I'm so hyped to get to be able to hear some of the tracks we have been discussing and wishing on for a long time. These songs really do sound amazing and I'm convinced Chinese Democracy would of been an incredible album had it come out in the early 2000's as intended. Hopefully the other content will also leak and we can begin to put together alternate versions of the album Edited August 29, 2019 by Affirmation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem16 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, sl4yer said: It all sound so fucking awesome! Axl, or label, or ezrin or whoever decison it was to fucking up with these tracks until 2008. Why? It all sound so much better,a lot more power , warmer sound, rawer vocal sounds much better too I will never listen to album again, after these leaks I think that it`s up to Axl to show us tracks in 2008. He tried to find a "Perfect" mix for each song. And it killed CD. That`s why it`s a soap songs in 2008. Songs can`t be and mustn`t be perfect. They must be alive and powerful. Axl fucked up right in that moment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Live Like a Suicide Posted August 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2019 Just now, axlsalinger said: Bob Ezrin - Talking about a meeting with Axl in October 2000 "...when he sat down, he started saying to me that he has finished the record. And I said “Axl, we are not ready to mix this record. This record isn’t ready to be mixed”.I said “there are two great songs on it and I know that you’re capable of more, that’s the reason why I’m here. You’re such a great talent and I would do you a disservice if I didn’t tell you the truth, which is that most of the songs aren’t great. But I‘m very happy to help you get there and I believe that it’s possible, if you would like to continue to work on the record, to make it better”.He said “I don’t agree with that. We are ready to mix”. And I told him “you have my number, if you change your mind let me know..." Aaaaaaaand, Axl was right. 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popcorn crew Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Don't get me wrong. But for me it is too much excitement for some CD leftovers that didn't even get on Album. Plus it was Axl and hired hands work. Personally don't want to see Slash is working on this stuff. I want new music with 3,4,5/5 members and I am willing to buy even bad album with new songs that this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Trevor Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Live Like a Suicide said: Aaaaaaaand, Axl was right. honestly, Axl basically works as a producer already, in the vein of bob too. it was ready to mix, these demos/unfinished tracks sound better than the current record FFS! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Does anybody have an overview of what has leaked so far? I'm up to speed with Hard School, the Atlas phone recording and the 1-minute clip of samples. But everything after that is a blur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Trevor Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Holographic Universe said: This place is a cesspool vacuum. There is almost zero difference between these ‘99 leaks and the album release. And, people here are praising some negligible difference with extreme hyperbole. fuck man im in the audio business and this is worlds different. its like christmas. to each their own. CD in particular, fuck its SO much better sounding. its the little things that make a big sounding album imo Edited August 29, 2019 by Cory Trevor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Maybe the first post in this thread could be updated with a list of the current leaks? Just so everyone’s on the same page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, username said: Does anybody have an overview of what has leaked so far? I'm up to speed with Hard School, the Atlas phone recording and the 1-minute clip of samples. But everything after that is a blur. The list in your previous post plus another version (different drums, I think) of CD the song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterman Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Is the backing vox on Goin Down Tommy or Robin or Richard?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Taking me a while to catch up, but!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the fucking bass on CD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl4yer Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Just now, Shacklermyrye said: Taking me a while to catch up, but!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the fucking bass on CD! It sounds motherfucking powerful. Album version doesn’t have the punch at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finck2006 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, Requiem16 said: I think that it`s up to Axl to show us tracks in 2008. He tried to find a "Perfect" mix for each song. And it killed CD. That`s why it`s a soap songs in 2008. Songs can`t be and mustn`t be perfect. They must be alive and powerful. Axl fucked up right in that moment. Well the main problem was to have everyone on the mix...you cant have 2 drummers and 5 guitar players on the same song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansidhe Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, betterman said: Is the backing vox on Goin Down Tommy or Robin or Richard?? Sounds like Tommy doing all the vocals. 7 minutes ago, sl4yer said: It sounds motherfucking powerful. Album version doesn’t have the punch at all. It has the heavy distorted guitars but there's no dynamics to it. The song suffered when they changed the drums and put Ron's fretless parts on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jekylhyde Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) After hearing the ChiDem multitracks years ago and after messing around with them on Audacity I can't, for the life of me, understand why they decided to bury the bass in the mix on the final album version. Tommy was THE right replacement for Duff. Tommy sounds so great on these versions. Edited August 29, 2019 by jekylhyde 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted August 29, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2019 It's 4:27am where I am and the first thing I'm going to do is apologize to @cpaxlvacy and @Pskihq92. I went to bed VERY cynical last night and was telling how fake Prostitute was. Needless to say I just woke up and found out a ton of stuff leaked and it's VERY real 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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