action Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 10 hours ago, spunko12345 said: I didn't ask whether I was right. I think what you've done is gotten confused by the concept of somebody asking a question without giving an opinion. did my answer respond to your objections / questions / opinions, or are there topics left you want me to investigate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 On 8/23/2022 at 8:08 AM, Gracii Guns said: By the way, I had two little boys in July. They're called Oliver and Henry. Such a missed opportunity to call them Axl and Slash. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 13 hours ago, action said: did my answer respond to your objections / questions / opinions, or are there topics left you want me to investigate? No it didn't. I didn't object to what you said and wasn't so much about the topics. I just wanted to point out that when your posting questions that you want to investigate you need to consider the full facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 11 hours ago, spunko12345 said: No it didn't. I didn't object to what you said and wasn't so much about the topics. I just wanted to point out that when your posting questions that you want to investigate you need to consider the full facts. facts are a strange phenomenon. when something is presented in the form of tables, statistics and "measurements", they immediately get the stamp of "absolute" truth. the greek call this kind of knowledge "techni". but facts, are much more than that. they also consist of intuition, opinion and logic. it seems, you use a very narrow definition of "facts". It seems that to you, a fact can only consist of something that carries a piece of "proof", preferrably proof stemming from scientific research. My definition is much broader. So my questions / statements ARE based on facts, just not the facts that you deem valid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 11 hours ago, action said: facts are a strange phenomenon. when something is presented in the form of tables, statistics and "measurements", they immediately get the stamp of "absolute" truth. the greek call this kind of knowledge "techni". but facts, are much more than that. they also consist of intuition, opinion and logic. it seems, you use a very narrow definition of "facts". It seems that to you, a fact can only consist of something that carries a piece of "proof", preferrably proof stemming from scientific research. My definition is much broader. So my questions / statements ARE based on facts, just not the facts that you deem valid. Can you run what "techni" means again please. Keep it brief though eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, spunko12345 said: Can you run what "techni" means again please. Keep it brief though eh? techni is a concept of truth / facts / knowledge, based on "technical" information. Numbers, statistics, measurements. For example, the knowledge on what temperature it was yesterday at 5 pm, is based on measurements. this is merely "part" of what makes up reality. Thoughts, opinion, emotion, character, logic are all as much part of reality, as what temperature is was yesterday at 5 pm. You can not describe / discover these elements of reality through any method of measurement. The scientific method is inadequate in describing any of these aspects of reality. what did I think yesterday at 5 pm? impossible for any scientist to know. to reach this knowledge, you need to tap into other sources of information that scientists are not interested in. you could ask my wife, who would base her insight on her feminine intuition. And you would pretty accurate information too. All science is capable of, is measuring various kinds of natural parameters. However, when a scientist makes conclusions, he is tapping from his own intuition / emotion / character. The moment he adds information to parameters, he did not discover through cold measurements, he is leaving the scientific field. This is the reason why astronomers in the 14th century could make vastly different conclusions, from the same observations as modern people. They saw the same, but concluded something different. This is a nice example of the inherent limits of the scientific method. When, then, you consider how even the measurements themselves, are corrupted by the quality of the measuring devices, and the uncertainty principle of quantum mechanics, then you will agree with me that intuition / emotion / logic is as much a ground for proof, than your definition of facts This post is as short as I was willing to make it, given the complex nature of the discussion. Edited August 29, 2022 by action 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 10:39 AM, action said: techni is a concept of truth / facts / knowledge, based on "technical" information. Numbers, statistics, measurements. For example, the knowledge on what temperature it was yesterday at 5 pm, is based on measurements. this is merely "part" of what makes up reality. Thoughts, opinion, emotion, character, logic are all as much part of reality, as what temperature is was yesterday at 5 pm. You can not describe / discover these elements of reality through any method of measurement. The scientific method is inadequate in describing any of these aspects of reality. what did I think yesterday at 5 pm? impossible for any scientist to know. to reach this knowledge, you need to tap into other sources of information that scientists are not interested in. you could ask my wife, who would base her insight on her feminine intuition. And you would pretty accurate information too. All science is capable of, is measuring various kinds of natural parameters. However, when a scientist makes conclusions, he is tapping from his own intuition / emotion / character. The moment he adds information to parameters, he did not discover through cold measurements, he is leaving the scientific field. This is the reason why astronomers in the 14th century could make vastly different conclusions, from the same observations as modern people. They saw the same, but concluded something different. This is a nice example of the inherent limits of the scientific method. When, then, you consider how even the measurements themselves, are corrupted by the quality of the measuring devices, and the uncertainty principle of quantum mechanics, then you will agree with me that intuition / emotion / logic is as much a ground for proof, than your definition of facts This post is as short as I was willing to make it, given the complex nature of the discussion. I disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, spunko12345 said: I disagree ah, my daily response in our little conversation. always a thing to look forward too, and now it ends bye bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 58 minutes ago, action said: ah, my daily response in our little conversation. always a thing to look forward too, and now it ends bye bye Bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 On 8/26/2022 at 4:56 PM, IrishgunnerII said: Listened to a non GNR album I bought when it came out in 1999 yesterday. It’s Eminem's marshal matters LP and damn it it’s interesting to listen to at least a decade after I last listened to it. I like the Eminem show. Not listened to it for about 14/15 years. Will have to dig out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracii Guns Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) Have been scrolling Vinted for GN'R merch. Was not expecting to see this. Should I get it and save it in case it comes in useful? Edited September 18, 2022 by Gracii Guns 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1989 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Still alive. Just got a new job. Comes with a company car. 15% pay rise as well. Main section on here is funny AF. So many people who don't know how an algorithm works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Hello, how you doing, how you been? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 My 7 year old and her friend were playing at ours yesterday. They found an old phone and I just heard a voice from the other room saying “I’m Karen and I want to speak to the manager!” 😂 Apparently playing Karen is a thing for younguns these days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 13 hours ago, Dazey said: My 7 year old and her friend were playing at ours yesterday. They found an old phone and I just heard a voice from the other room saying “I’m Karen and I want to speak to the manager!” 😂 Apparently playing Karen is a thing for younguns these days. How is your child seven, what even is time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said: Hey should I be concerned about Lake Taupo? Not overly, at the moment. As I understand it (from a very superficial look), they've raised the alert level from 0 to 1 (out of a possible 5) because of a number of generally very minor earthquakes. It's basically "this volcano has gone from no notable activity to the lowest possible threshold of notable volcanic activity". There are plenty of volcanoes around the world experiencing internal seismicity at this sort of level on a regular basis that aren't a cause for concern. That's the current situation; I'm not saying that a big eruption at Lake Taupo is impossible (it's definitely possible), but I am saying that it's statistically improbable in the near future. We're (the volcanological community) supposed to be having our first global assembly since 2017 at Taupo in January, but I won't be going, because I'm skint . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Shouldn't the volcanological community take some proactive efforts re: Taupo rather than just "raising the alert"? What good will raising a blood alert do when the shit goes boom in the night and sends burning sheep raining down over the entire Midgard? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 I have family in Florida. Last my mom spoke to her cousin they were okay but their power went out. From the looks at the footage it's super scary. I know water can do so much damage. I hope everyone is safe and makes if out of this storm okay. Can't do nothing when Mother Nature does her thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 It just hit me how I’ve lurked this forum ever since I was a pre teen, and only turned 20 a few weeks ago haha Shouldn’t have spent so much time in my formative years reading the crap on here, now I’m a broken young man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I could go to any fucking shop here and drink myself to death for three times less money than I’m paying to sit in an Irish pub drinking beer. Food for thought. I’m food for thots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Since I was a kid I loved Halloween. Even before Covid not many kids would come around. I still decorated up until last year and had bowls of candy but no one showed up. this year I just put Halloween flags outside my home. I always have candy, so if anyone shows up, that's cool, I'll be ready, but I doubt. Living in Texas I realized they don't love Halloween the way kids do in New York. Sad. It's a really fun holiday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 8:49 PM, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said: Since I was a kid I loved Halloween. Even before Covid not many kids would come around. I still decorated up until last year and had bowls of candy but no one showed up. this year I just put Halloween flags outside my home. I always have candy, so if anyone shows up, that's cool, I'll be ready, but I doubt. Living in Texas I realized they don't love Halloween the way kids do in New York. Sad. It's a really fun holiday. I'm taking my kids trick or treating for the 1st time this year. Am a tad excited myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 More January 6 hearings today. Will this end with Trump's arrest? I would be shocked! How much more proof do they need to arrest him for inciting that riot on January 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracii Guns Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/5/2022 at 6:48 PM, kruelty said: It just hit me how I’ve lurked this forum ever since I was a pre teen, and only turned 20 a few weeks ago haha Shouldn’t have spent so much time in my formative years reading the crap on here, now I’m a broken young man Try serving almost 20 years here. I signed up when I was staying over at my grandparents' house when I was 15 - they had Internet access, which I didn't have at my family home. I've got several real-life friends whom I met here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 44 minutes ago, Gracii Guns said: Try serving almost 20 years here. I signed up when I was staying over at my grandparents' house when I was 15 - they had Internet access, which I didn't have at my family home. I've got several real-life friends whom I met here. i feel old I've been here 17 years.....which when you compare to the history of the band, if 1986 was year i joined it would now be 2003. So i've been on this board longer than the band was active in it's prie and the 2001/2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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