07/13/22 - Vienna, AT - Ernst Happel Stadium

[lame ass security]

3 hours ago, ©GnrPersia said:

Here's the logic:

Don Henley once said that for the amount of money he makes he has a very high tolerance for repetition. 

[vloors]

48 minutes ago, lame ass security said:

Don Henley once said that for the amount of money he makes he has a very high tolerance for repetition. 

The Stones, Paul McCarthy etc mix up and play hidden gems from time to time plus have a massive catalogue of music to pick from and play.

Instead of creating more music to play gnr just adds more covers.

[Rovim]

7 hours ago, ©GnrPersia said:

Here's the logic:

a little bit of whataboutism From Richard. I guess he has a point here, but at least Elton John and Paul McCartney wrote/composed the songs they had to play for decades live. 

He was a session musician and is a pro who gets to play guitar for a living, can afford some of the best guitars and gear in the world, and has job security while touring the world with Axl and in the past 6 years with Slash, which he seems to get a real kick out of. It's a good deal for him and he seems to have the perfect personality for being mostly a touring musician in Gn'R as opposed to a guy like Bumble for example.

I'm sure that he would have probably preferred to also be a creative part of it and put a real mark on a band he was a part of for so long but that's the best gig he landed in his life and he's lucky (still worthy) to be in his position imo.

when he played with Thin Lizzy he seemed the most excited he ever was to me about being a part of a band, at least from what I could understand from interviews but my guess is that he must get tired from playing bascially the same songs from the same 4 albums that he had no part of creating except from 1 part in 1 song so I'm not really buying it.

also, in most bands he would have gotten a chance (like he did in the past) of being a real part in creating it too and he must know it cause he's not dumb. The fact that he didn't get to do it in 20 years would have bothered most people as well imo.

Edited July 14, 2022 by Rovim

[jamillos]

I guess these people tend to realize their potential in their own solo projects, where they are the main star and can create whatever they want. It's definitely healthy. I'd go nuts playing a second guitar in a band for 20 years, not even being allowed to talk about pretty much anything except for some very general trivia or technicalities regarding the instruments... 

[Rovim]

12 minutes ago, jamillos said:

I guess these people tend to realize their potential in their own solo projects, where they are the main star and can create whatever they want. It's definitely healthy. I'd go nuts playing a second guitar in a band for 20 years, not even being allowed to talk about pretty much anything except for some very general trivia or technicalities regarding the instruments... 

yeah he gets to do solo projects/sometimes tour with other cool acts, so he has an artistic outlet, but he seemed kinda bummed he had to stop touring with Thin Lizzy cause his first priority is always going to be touring with Gn'R so it's not total freedom and Bumble talked about how frustrating it was for him when he couldn't book a solo tour cause you get a very short notice when you're in Guns and he didn't want to have to cancel solo tour dates and let down his fans.

imagine how cool it could have been for him if Axl was normal and 3-4 Gn'R albums were released with Richard's guitar all over the material with tunes he was reponsible for. (the normal bit was in jest btw)

Edited July 14, 2022 by Rovim

[jamillos]

6 minutes ago, Rovim said:

yeah he gets to do solo projects/sometimes tour with other cool acts, so he has an artistic outlet, but he seemed kinda bummed he had to stop touring with Thin Lizzy cause his first priority is always going to be touring with Gn'R so it's not total freedom and Bumble talked about how frustrating it was for him when he couldn't book a solo tour cause you get a very short notice when you're in Guns and he didn't want to have to cancel solo tour dates and let down his fans.

imagine how cool it could have been for him if Axl was normal and 3-4 Gn'R albums were released with Richard's guitar all over the material with tunes he was reponsible for. (the normal bit was in jest btw)

(the normal bit is an absolutely reasonable desire! :D) 

[Natty]

Ok, so here is my review from Vienna. I must say after the boring and delusional Munich gig I didn’t expect much. Vienna gig was really great!! Like day and night in comparison to Munich.. Duff interacted a lot more with the audience, Axl was enjoying himself totally, better voice than Munich and they played „Reckless life“ „You re crazy“ and „Coma“ which wasn t played in Munich. So many good vibes, this was one of the really good nights bandwise. It s a shame not every city receives the same - They never disappointed me in my home town so far 🤘🏻

[georgrose]

The show was incredible, it was my 6th time seeing GN`R live. It was the first time(their first concert ever) for my two daughters(10&13) and first time for my wife seeing the Reunion lineup.

I have to say, the band seemed in a great mood and they sounded absolutely fantastic, Axl´s voice sounds amazing live.

My family and my friends really loved the show, they all are casual to non fans. My highlights were Nightrain;Ycbm and Hard Skool!

My impression was that the guys seem to enjoy playing with each other, so I hope that new music is coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Alexmee239]

During Slash solo there was a fan that got on stage, went to Slash and started bowing down before him in veneration. 

[allwaystired]

1 hour ago, vloors said:

The Stones, Paul McCarthy etc mix up and play hidden gems from time to time plus have a massive catalogue of music to pick from and play.

Instead of creating more music to play gnr just adds more covers.

They also all release new albums too. That's the major difference. 

[davisp]

Wow! What a show, a magical night.

I was able to get hold of the Klimt lithograph (the very last one, they put it down from display for me) and the t-shirt. The quality of the print is really bad compared to 2017. I couldn't see the Arnie litho anywhere. GNR also only posted Klimt on instagram so I think it got dropped.

Regarding the concert itself: We had FOS tickets. Sadly we missed Dirty Honey due to many pre-show beers at Schweizerhaus (go there if you ever visit Vienna). Gary Clark didn't get me going. I sat down and chatted with my friends. Regarding GNR: Unfortunately, the audience was a bit boring. I felt like I was the only one jumping around and singing like crazy. Well, my girlfriend and a friend too, but nobody else. The band, on the other hand, was outstanding. I can only confirm: Axl sounds really different than in youtube videos. Every now and then he had slight problems but 90% of the time it sounded perfect in the stadium. The fan who stormed the stage has already been mentioned A girl held up a sign that said 'your music helped me kick cancer's ass.'  Axl smiled and waved at her. The whole band was in a good mood and interacting with the fans. Before 'You're Crazy' Axl said: "this band is a democracy, so let's do this." Maybe Axl prefers the slow version, but the rest the fast one? Maybe it's about something else. I had a lot of fun and everyone else too. Would go again in a heartbeat.

Tomorrow I see the Stones at the same venue... looking forward to that as well.

If I remember anything else I'll update this post.

Edited July 14, 2022 by davisp

[Litti]

4 hours ago, lame ass security said:

Don Henley once said that for the amount of money he makes he has a very high tolerance for repetition. 

Notice how 4Tus dodges the question

[Tom2112]

8 hours ago, ©GnrPersia said:

Here's the logic:

He misses the point and goes straight to defense. Also McCartney has released how many new albums in the last 20yrs? Oh yes, many more than Axl... And while he doesn't play every song from those albums he plays a handful to keep it interesting... Then he also has a huge back catalogue from solo, wings and Beatles that he can pick from. Richard actually makes gnr look worse with the comparison 🤣

[ChristianGNR]

Sweet child with rasp. 
sounds good.

[PatrickS77]

30 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

He misses the point and goes straight to defense. Also McCartney has released how many new albums in the last 20yrs? Oh yes, many more than Axl... And while he doesn't play every song from those albums he plays a handful to keep it interesting... Then he also has a huge back catalogue from solo, wings and Beatles that he can pick from. Richard actually makes gnr look worse with the comparison 🤣

The real kicker is that he compares himself to McCartney, Elton John or the Stones. People who actually have created their own music and are legends in their own right.

[Rovim]

3 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said:

The real kicker is that he compares himself to McCartney, Elton John or the Stones. People who actually have created their own music and are legends in their own right.

I didn't get the impression he was comparing how big of a deal he was compared to those musicians, body of work, or the quality of it, just pointing out they go through a similar situation when it comes to playing a song a million times in their career and how it is much worse for them.

it didn't make a huge splash or anything, but he has created his own music with more than one artist/band.

[PatrickS77]

3 minutes ago, Rovim said:

I didn't get the impression he was comparing how big of a deal he was compared to those musicians, body of work, or the quality of it, just pointing out they go through a similar situation when it comes to playing a song a million times in their career and how it is much worse for them.

it didn't make a huge splash or anything, but he has created his own music with more than one artist/band.

It made no splash. And playing your own songs that made your career and millions should be something different than playing someone elses songs, told by someone else what to play, without any input or chanses to decide to play something different. Elton, Paul and the Stones can play whatever the fuck they want.

Edited July 14, 2022 by PatrickS77

[Rovim]

2 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said:

It made no splash. And playing your own songs that made your career and millions should be something different than playing someone elses songs, told by someone else what to play, without any input or chanses to decide to play something different. Elton, Paul and the Stones can play whatever the fuck they want.

what are we talking about here, exactly? how successful Richard is compared to the most successful musicians and how he's not at the same level as The Stones? he only talked about how those artists endure playing the same shit for thousands of years which is similar to his own situation with Gn'R. Just the repetitive nature of it and how it's worse for musicians who have been doing it longer compared to him.

[PatrickS77]

30 minutes ago, Rovim said:

what are we talking about here, exactly? how successful Richard is compared to the most successful musicians and how he's not at the same level as The Stones? he only talked about how those artists endure playing the same shit for thousands of years which is similar to his own situation with Gn'R. Just the repetitive nature of it and how it's worse for musicians who have been doing it longer compared to him.

Except it is not. As the mentioned artists can do whatever they want. They can the decide on a whim what they play. He can't. He gets told by Axl what to play. And it's not even his songs. So the mentioned artists are absolutely not comparable to him.

Edited July 14, 2022 by PatrickS77

[Underhardy]

5 hours ago, vloors said:

The Stones, Paul McCarthy etc mix up and play hidden gems from time to time plus have a massive catalogue of music to pick from and play.

Instead of creating more music to play gnr just adds more covers.

Yeah didn’t the stones do something where fans could vote for each show on a different deep cut to play? Modern GNR has none of the real qualities of a true band. No jamming off the stage, nothing spontaneous, nothing real. Strictly a nostalgia grab. 

[Rovim]

19 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said:

Except it is not. As the mentioned artists can do whatever they want. They can the decide on a whim what they play. He can't. He gets told by Axl what to play. And it's not even his songs. So the mentioned artists are absolutely not comparable to him.

but they don't really do whatever they want cause they take into consideration what their fans want to hear so a big chunk of their setlists are the most popular tunes and that's because they got so big and are also well oiled money machines, the extent of what they can do on a whim is limited, so they are faced with the same necessity of playing the same shit often...like Fortus does.

Richard is not Axl and doesn't get to decide. Got it. He didn't get a chance to write his own shit with Gn'R so not on the same level as Elton or The Stones...agreed. But this is not relevant to the point I think he was trying to make which is the challenge of playing the same old shit for decades. Who he is is less important here than what he does.

Edited July 14, 2022 by Rovim

[Lio]

It's funny, as I've seen Metallica multiple times now over 30 odd years and was comparing setlists between 1993 and 2022, just out of curiosity. Newsflash: I got 5 different songs when I compare 1993 to 2022. In 1996 when I saw them, there were a few more 'new' songs as they were touring a new album, I believe. I realize Metallica has put out a lot more music, but in the end, the bulk of their shows still has the same songs. They also only play 18 songs or so, so a  lot less than GNR does on average.

In 2022, I got 6 songs I hadn't seen before from GNR. I saw only one show this leg, but I saw 3 in 2017 and 5 in 2018. And they didn't even play You're Crazy and Hard Skool in Groningen

So cut it out with the 'always the same' blabla.

Note: Just as most on here, I assume, I would love to have NEW music and I too am disappointed at no new singles this year. I would rather hear Perhaps than Back in Black. But I'm just saying that it's not the same show as in 2017 or 2018.

[janrichmond]

I don't really mind the setlists. If they do a 2 night gig then a change up is needed for night 2, but that's only important if you go to both nights and I guess most fans don't 

[ChristianGNR]

So, except from Jungle, i've listened to a lot of songs from this show and it sounded a strong perfomance from Axl's side considering 2021-2022 standard.

Civil war was a good surprise, Paradise City, November Rain e Sweet Child with rasp. Sounded good.

[Alejandro GNR]

Another horrible performance of Back in Black