Popular Post GoForJMark Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, Martin Riggs said: Yeah, I just watched the Hard Skool from the last gig at the Hard Rock..and Axl sounds horrible honestly IMO. I thought people were saying it was good. I don’t know if people are delusional or what but it’s Mickey falsetto the whole way through..I was cringing the whole time. I listened to the clip with like 6,000 views too. Are people hearing something I’m not or what the fuck is going on? This discrepancy makes me question people’s hearing. Edit: went and listening to HS from 10/2 and even worse. Listened to the 10/3 performance a few more times. Crap imo even though it got a bit better towards the end. Gonna listen to some more songs from 10/3 before I have a full on existential crisis on people’s opinions on these vocals. It's simple you and that other guy are full on pessimistic. Some of us on the other hand are finally seeing Axl give a fuck and actually try to sing these songs. Was Hard Skool perfect for us? Fuck no, far from it. Were we happy with how he sang it? Yes. He didn't go to a full mickey route on it. Maybe if he could he would rasp the whole shit. But he's fucking 4 months away from 60. And I applaud him for singing the way he does now. So you can't live with how he sings lately. Here are the options to work on that: 1. Whine and bitch in here. No problem, everyone's entitled to their opions and beliefs. There's even those guys who believe in bigfoot. 2. Let's just tell him to retire for your pleasure. Tell him he couldn't sing like '91 anymore! That'll teach the motherfucker! 3. Just not watch any of these shows anymore. 4. If you wanna hear his old voice so bad, play the old records. 5. Cry to your sleep 'cause he can't even sound like '99 vocals anymore. 6. Keep torturing yourself and watch even more of 10-02 and 10-03 shows and then refer to no. 1. Edited October 6, 2021 by GoForJMark 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_rose Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 last setlist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Riggs Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, GoForJMark said: It's simple you and that other guy are full on pessimistic. Some of us on the other hand are finally seeing Axl give a fuck and actually try to sing these songs. Was Hard Skool perfect for us? Fuck no, far from it. Were we happy with how he sang it? Yes. He didn't go to a full mickey route on it. Maybe if he could he would rasp the whole shit. But he's fucking 4 months away from 60. And I applaud him for singing the way he does now. Hey, I’m happy you’re so happy. I also think it’s good that Axl is finally giving a fuck and trying to sing new songs as you said, but I’m also gonna state when I think he sounds like shit. I watched the videos hoping he would sound good. Unfortunately he didn’t IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--DEA-- Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) Much rasp on this last show 😊 Edited October 6, 2021 by --DEA-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoForJMark Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Martin Riggs said: I watched the videos hoping he would sound good. Unfortunately he didn’t IMO. Why would you raise that bar of expectation so high knowing how he sounds at this age? I'm just happy he can still rasp when needed and hit notes, maybe a few miss on some tracks but it is what it is. That Paradise City from the 10-03 that you guys have been shitting on has been the raspiest version in a long while. I don't know how high your standards are for that song, but to me it could be up there with other 2016 performances. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) Yeah, I have listened to quite a few videos from these most recent shows, and to me Axl sounds good. I am not saying it is album-perfect in any way, or identical to the recordings from 20-30 years ago, but he is hitting the high notes, still got plenty of sustain, not running out of breath all the time, and the tonal quality is not too bad. Then it probably needs to be said that I was never a fan of the grating use of rasp from the 90s and have always preferred it when he has just added a bit of distortion here and there to beef up the tones and to add attitude. I get that what I wrote above is not a ringing endorsement, really, but knowing how his singing comes across to people actually at the shows, and there's been many people from mygnrforum who have attended the show and praised Axl's singing, I would say we have no reason to complain. It is quite amazing, frankly, that Axl at 60 is still able to belt out these tunes. It is asinine to compare him to vocalists of same age who sing much simpler songs with much less range, and it is quite moronic to compare anyway since voices deteriorate differently. Kudos to Axl. Hopefully he can somehow prepare better before summer 2022 so the first shows aren't as bad as the first shows of this tour was. Edited October 6, 2021 by SoulMonster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We love Axl Rose Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Nightrain from this show https://streamable.com/2zy1h8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jekylhyde Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 54 minutes ago, We love Axl Rose said: Nightrain from this show https://streamable.com/2zy1h8 Damn! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underhardy Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 12 hours ago, RochelleRochelle said: I still want to know what prompted the USA! chant before "I wanna be your dog" seemed like an inside joke. Would love to know the origin. I was on the rail. Just seemed like Axl heard a fan call something out in between songs maybe a song request and he responded with that chant instead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alangarcianr Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 3 hours ago, We love Axl Rose said: Nightrain from this show https://streamable.com/2zy1h8 Woah. Who would’ve thought he would sound this good after Hershey. It’s not as good as 2016 but it’s head to head with 2017 Axl and waaaay better than 2018, 2019 and the few 2020 shows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 hours ago, We love Axl Rose said: Nightrain from this show https://streamable.com/2zy1h8 "Time to retire" "Sounds like shit" "Motivation or vocal issue?" This forum... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 I don't normally watch clips from the gigs, as I don't really see the point in watching crappy mobile phone footage but had a look at this Nightrain one......seems great to me! People aren't saying this is a bad performance of that song are they? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agustingloger Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 hours ago, We love Axl Rose said: Nightrain from this show https://streamable.com/2zy1h8 I don't like how Richard plays the solo .. he should stick to Chinese material only 😂😂😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellow Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) Axl sounded surprisingly good at this gig - even Paradise City sounds great! It's good to end tour in positive way! Edited October 6, 2021 by Hellow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Riggs Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 6 hours ago, GoForJMark said: Why would you raise that bar of expectation so high knowing how he sounds at this age? I'm just happy he can still rasp when needed and hit notes, maybe a few miss on some tracks but it is what it is. That Paradise City from the 10-03 that you guys have been shitting on has been the raspiest version in a long while. I don't know how high your standards are for that song, but to me it could be up there with other 2016 performances. Why would I raise the bar of expectation? Uh because people were saying that he sounded good. 🤔 I think it is a standards thing though. It seems some people in online communities like this have slowly lowered theirs repeatedly through the the years as it pertains to Axl’s vocals. I try to keep it simple. Would I be comfortable sharing a vocal performance with friends or others and expecting them to think it was at least good? I wouldn’t share any of the clips I watched from the shows last weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, Martin Riggs said: Why would I raise the bar of expectation? Uh because people were saying that he sounded good. 🤔 I think it is a standards thing though. It seems some people in online communities like this have slowly lowered theirs repeatedly through the the years as it pertains to Axl’s vocals. Why would people NOT lower their expectations through the years? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Why would people NOT lower their expectations through the years? Yeah we have to be realistic- it isn't like it was in the 80s. As long as it sounds decent and they're putting effort in.....then that's surely ok. I think people got pissed off when the band were sloppy and Axl was all over the shop (that Deadhorse early in the run for instance when he was just dropping out of lines) and that's understandable. This performance of Nightrain though isn't that. It's very solid. The big problem is that they're still using the first dates of the tour as a rehearsal I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 23 minutes ago, Martin Riggs said: Why would I raise the bar of expectation? Uh because people were saying that he sounded good. 🤔 I think it is a standards thing though. It seems some people in online communities like this have slowly lowered theirs repeatedly through the the years as it pertains to Axl’s vocals. I try to keep it simple. Would I be comfortable sharing a vocal performance with friends or others and expecting them to think it was at least good? I wouldn’t share any of the clips I watched from the shows last weekend. I keep my expectations right in the middle. In nearly every thread I see people saying Axl sounds AMAZING and that particular show might be the greatest ever. Then I scroll down a bit and I see people claiming that Axl sounds horrible and this is probably the last show ever. I rarely click on GN'R videos but when I do, I almost always end up thinking "Meh, that's about what I expected" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 minute ago, allwaystired said: The big problem is that they're still using the first dates of the tour as a rehearsal I think. You are very diplomatic to suggest that isn't entirely Axl's thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agustingloger Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Just now, RussTCB said: I rarely click on GN'R videos but when I do, I almost always end up thinking "Meh, that's about what I expected" Maybe You are on the wrong forum. We are here to discuss GN'R videos 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: You are very diplomatic to suggest that isn't entirely Axl's thing Haha- yeah, true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opalho Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 4:27 PM, Coma16 said: Am I the only one who loves Wichita? Such an awesome take on the song. It works really well before Patience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 hours ago, allwaystired said: Good for you. I hope you had a good night at Shinedown. Why are you telling me this? I have no idea who they are, not do I care. Whatever. I mean you clearly don't read my posts if you think I'm so negative,as I raved about Absurd and Hard Skool, but I'm sure all the positives I always state don't fit in with your bizaare agenda and playground insults. Interestingly though a quick look at your previous posts shows you have done very little but arrive at the site recently and be rude to people. Whether that's the litho collectors you insulted, the people who got cheaper tickets, or anyone else. There's quite a trend for newbies to appear and throw around the same type of insults. Odd how that happens. So forgive me if I write you off as a troll, or someone looking to throw around insults. And for the record- chucking around 'you're gay'' type insults only serve to make you look stupid, rather than anyone else. So what you're saying is this guy is becoming a "well-known hater" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 minute ago, MaskingApathy said: So what you're saying is this guy is becoming a "well-known hater" Oh we're all 'haters' here! That's why we visit the forum and discuss our favourite band all the time. You must have missed the memo..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Riggs Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, SoulMonster said: Why would people NOT lower their expectations through the years? Oh I agree they should. The problem is many then try to pretend or delude themselves into thinking what they’re hearing is actually good on the merits. Not just good compared to their current expectations which are essentially in the toilet when in comparison to quality singing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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