Draguns Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I have to say that I think Axl could pull this off with his baritone voice. I think it would fit as to where he's voice is at this time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphelmo Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, Draguns said: I have to say that I think Axl could pull this off with his baritone voice. I think it would fit as to where he's voice is at this time. Its not about voice, its about breath control 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, Ralphelmo said: Its not about voice, its about breath control Yeah, I know that Slash said the same thing years ago. However, if Todd can pull this off maybe Axl can as well. After all, they played Coma during the tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) I think he did a good job. However - while I agree that breath control is key here it shouldn’t be forgotten that Kerns only sang lead on THREE songs so had plenty of gas in the tank. I’m pretty sure if Axl was to have a go early on in a gig he could do absolutely fine. One thing that was missing from Kerns (and probably from Axl if he did it) is the palpable anger that the original has. Obviously it’s a 30 year old song etc however it’s quite telling how different it sounds ‘speaking/singing’ it like Kerns - it didn’t have the bite and rage. Edited January 26 by DTJ80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgina Arriaga Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 6 minutes ago, DTJ80 said: I think he did a good job. However - while I agree that breath control is key here it shouldn’t be forgotten that Kerns only sang lead on THREE songs so had plenty of gas in the tank. I’m pretty sure if Axl was to have a go early on in a gig he could do absolutely fine. One thing that was missing from Kerns (and probably from Axl if he did it) is the palpable anger that the original has. Obviously it’s a 30 year old song etc however it’s quite telling how different it sounds ‘speaking/singing’ it like Kerns - it didn’t have the bite and rage. Exactly, Kerns tries to be menacing...ouch. I bet Is the reason Axl Is not singing It. The delivery must be fill with rage. Well at least Is not Myles who sings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRmello77 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 7 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: It still apparently doesn't mean Slash would play the right solo Well then he better listen to those songs with headphones on and rehearse the shit out of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 29 minutes ago, GNRmello77 said: Well then he better listen to those songs with headphones on and rehearse the shit out of them He didn't for many GNR songs, I doubt he has any more motivation to do so for his little solo shows lol. You can only make a multi millionaire "work" so muchTbh if I was THAT rich and in my late 50s, I'd phone it in too, it doesn't really matter, it really doesn't make a difference to ticket sales anyway Edited January 26 by StrangerInThisTown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 9 hours ago, Top-Hatted One said: Not true he was at his best during VR Libertad era, Slash self tilted & early SMKC. All sober. He’s sucked since GN’R reunion The last time Slash sounded “good” was on the first VR album. I don’t think it’s even debatable. I’ve seen him live more times than any other member of the band past or present. Look at any live footage up until 2005 and then compare that with anything 2006 to today. You’re seeing a completely different guitar player. The Slash of today could have never written the riffs that made him a literal guitar god. Don’t get me wrong, he’s still an enigma. But he was just a better player not sober and I think he would tell you the same thing candidly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRmello77 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, StrangerInThisTown said: He didn't for many GNR songs, I doubt he has any more motivation to do so for his little solo shows lol. You can only make a multi millionaire "work" so muchTbh if I was THAT rich and in my late 50s, I'd phone it in too, it doesn't really matter, it really doesn't make a difference to ticket sales anyway Well with Slash you never know, he is far from lazy when it comes to music. And I don't really find the term phoning it in adapt with Slash. I'd call it comfortable with everything as it is 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfacelessturtle Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 17 hours ago, ZoSo said: That solo has just taken the entire shine off this performance for me. Todd sounds great on vocals, but the difference between the original solo and this, err, noodling monstrosity of a solo is the epitome of how much Slash's playing has actually gotten worse as he's aged. He's not even hitting the changes in the melody, which the original does so well, it's just flat out noodling with no connection to the underlying song. 16 hours ago, HollyWoodRose84 said: Slash was a better player while under the influence. Sober, not so much. I hate to say it, but it's true. Not only was he more melodic and creative back then, he was also somehow more precise when he was drunk. How can it be that he plays sloppier sober? The only part that makes sense to me is that some of the smooth fluidity to his playing came from being drunk, and slurring his fingers, so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfacelessturtle Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 5 hours ago, Ralphelmo said: Its not about voice, its about breath control Axl has better breath control in his mid-low registers. 12 hours ago, Top-Hatted One said: Not true he was at his best during VR Libertad era, Slash self tilted & early SMKC. All sober. He’s sucked since GN’R reunion The decline started after Snakepit disbanded. Contraband was very good but he sucked on the tour for it (this becomes a trend; still sounding good in the studio but being sloppy live). Libertad was hit and miss. Solo album was a step back up (possibly because he actually started writing it between Snakepit and VR in 2002). First tour with Myles was sloppier and tone getting cleaner. AL has the first signs of his tone getting cleaner in the studio as well. And from there on he just kept getting sloppier with cleaner tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfacelessturtle Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I'm surprised what an enthusiastic response they got from the crowd for such a deep cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoMw94 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 33 minutes ago, evilfacelessturtle said: I'm surprised what an enthusiastic response they got from the crowd for such a deep cut. Tbf it wasn't a Guns N' Roses show, you're not going to find many casuals at an SMKC gig 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lio Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 5 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said: He didn't for many GNR songs, I doubt he has any more motivation to do so for his little solo shows lol. You can only make a multi millionaire "work" so muchTbh if I was THAT rich and in my late 50s, I'd phone it in too, it doesn't really matter, it really doesn't make a difference to ticket sales anyway But this is the Slash show, he does what he wants and he did DDM in a soundcheck for GNR, so I would assume he's motivated enough to do it. I'm going with someone on here saying he made a mistake and didn't succeed in getting it back on track and chose to just go for anything (I'm paraphrasing). This can't be a solo he's tired with either. We could be led to think Axl doesn't even like singing, from decades of experience we've had, but guitar playing seems to be Slash's life. I don't believe he's phoning it in. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfacelessturtle Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 17 hours ago, DoMw94 said: Tbf it wasn't a Guns N' Roses show, you're not going to find many casuals at an SMKC gig Maybe, maybe not. My friend who likes Alter Bridge and Guns came to see them but she wouldn't know DDM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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agustingloger Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I would love to know what was Axl's tought on this On 1/25/2024 at 5:43 PM, Top-Hatted One said: Yea it’s bad enough he doesn’t take the time to learn CD solos but his own solos? Dead Horse, Yesterdays & now Don’t Damn Me? Just proves how bored he is with anything old. Maybe he wants to play them that way. Why would he should play note by note? It's his show and he plays whatever he wants 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 4 hours ago, agustingloger said: I would love to know what was Axl's tought on this Maybe he will use it as a tutorial to sing it during the next GNR tour No joke I think it would go over well it's mostly in his lower voice which still sounds every bit as good as it ever did. It's clearly not at all impossible to sing as we have just seen. If he figures it out this would probably be the best addition to the setlist since Coma in 2016. Unexpected, not done at all before, and just a great present for the fans, this is one of GNRs most AFD-sounding and AFD-quality rockers, it's too bad it never got it's due live. This and Breakdown are the last 2 "big" songs of the deep cuts left that they could still pull out as a new addition to the set. Edited January 28 by StrangerInThisTown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfacelessturtle Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Not to be that guy... but Slash isn't playing the main riff right. He's half-assing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacdaniel Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 The whole Slash noodling thing is way, way, WAY overstated on here. I think he mainly stays very loyal to AFD material, ballads, the new Guns releases. It’s mainly the Illusions deep cuts where it stands out. I don’t know what he’s trying what those songs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/25/2024 at 3:14 PM, Draguns said: Yeah, I know that Slash said the same thing years ago. However, if Todd can pull this off maybe Axl can as well. After all, they played Coma during the tour. No way, Todd is 100x the singer that Axl (in his current form) is. 8 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said: Maybe he will use it as a tutorial to sing it during the next GNR tour No joke I think it would go over well it's mostly in his lower voice which still sounds every bit as good as it ever did. It's clearly not at all impossible to sing as we have just seen. If he figures it out this would probably be the best addition to the setlist since Coma in 2016. Unexpected, not done at all before, and just a great present for the fans, this is one of GNRs most AFD-sounding and AFD-quality rockers, it's too bad it never got it's due live. This and Breakdown are the last 2 "big" songs of the deep cuts left that they could still pull out as a new addition to the set. No thanks, I don't want to see Frank Ferrer mess it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphelmo Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, MaskingApathy said: No way, Todd is 100x the singer that Axl (in his current form) is. No thanks, I don't want to see Frank Ferrer mess it up. Ye, Ferrer would be a downgrade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 6 hours ago, MaskingApathy said: No way, Todd is 100x the singer that Axl (in his current form) is. No thanks, I don't want to see Frank Ferrer mess it up. Nah man - it’s really easy to be a part time front man like Todd and sound good like this. At this tempo and in the right circumstances Axl could easily replicate it - early in the set etc etc. One thing that’s missing is the lack of any anger in the delivery. It’s kinda just spoken - Axl might be able to add more of that. It’s the tempo that’s key….if slowed a notch it offers more breathing time. However it’s still very cool to hear it in any form, done well and actually shows it COULD happen in the future. Edited January 28 by DTJ80 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJo Bonetto Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 It sounds great and I am looking forward to hearing it when I see them in London in April. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNfr Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 allegedly Axl loved it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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