ZoSoRose Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) GNR sucks sometimes Edited August 31, 2018 by ZoSoRose 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Sisyphus said: In other words, no interesting questions allowed. He wants the publicity but doesn't want to give away any interesting info. Because people obviously enjoy hearing how he and Myles inspire each other and how The Conspirators are the tightest bunch of musicians in the world. So super-duper interesting. I don't think the contracts are about what questions are allowed (and the Classic Rock journalist didn't imply that this is what the contract was about anyway). This can just be agreed upon before the interview without a contract, like "please don't ask me about this because I can't/don't want to talk about it". And, in the end, Slash (or whoever else) can just avoid answering some questions, like he did with the Izzy related question, for example. It's about the possibility of being misquoted, words taken out of context, etc. In many cases the article is not just the Q&A like the Rolling Stone interview, but a story with comments and background information inserted by the journalist in-between, like the Classic Rock interview. And there the writer could, for example, use an old Slash quote that could be misconstrued as something he said in the current interview. Maybe the contracts are aimed only to specific outlets which have a history of using such tactics. Edited August 31, 2018 by Blackstar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I remember when the they did this exact same thing when the illusions albums came out except it was intigated by slash. They would do the interview and the journalist would have to get the bands ok before the interview went to print. Then when the whole PRMC was trying to censor hard rock/metal in the early 90s slash would say in interviews "fuck censorship it will never win" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnrs1972 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 They are just like Trump. They hate fake news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 6 hours ago, Tourettes2400 said: I think the Rolling Stone interview has got him paranoid. When he stopped by Eddie Trunk's show the other day, he was saying the interviewer was an asshole. Could be, but that would be unreasonable of Slash, imo. A music journalist isn't just a vessel to push album sales. It's their job to act like any other professional journalist and get answers, get insights. If Slash doesn't want to deal with that then he can avoid reputable outlets and just appear on his friends podcasts. It's not like there's shame in that. In the case with Hiatt, Slash seems to be pissed that the journalist didn't let his very obvious lie go unchecked. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnrcane Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Wagszilla said: Truly horrifying. The corporate mandated censorship and hamstringing of the free press is one thing. But the blasé, sheep-like acceptance expressed in this thread continues to erode my faith in the future. Enjoy your pile of ashes or dystopian existence. The press is free from government control. It is to prevent North Korea (and many others) style, propaganda based, state-run media. A free press doesn't mean that a private citizen is forced to give open interviews so that the "journalist" reporting on entertainment can get website traffic or sell magazines. The freedom of the press doesn't even mean that government officials have to answer their questions, it just means that the government can't censor what they say/write and can't force them to say/write anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I think it's a smart move. Good way for CYA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Wheel Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 It's a smart move on Slash's/GNR's part, but journalists don't have to play a game that's tilted against them. They can just as easily forego the interview and publish a story saying that GNR requires contracts and it says "x, y, and z." That's just as interesting as, if not more so than, Slash telling the vague story for the 100th time of how GNR reunited and the open-ended tidbit that he has written some basic guitar parts, which could be used for future Guns tracks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonKinight Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 GN'R being GN'R. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacdaniel Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Wagszilla said: Truly horrifying. The corporate mandated censorship and hamstringing of the free press is one thing. But the blasé, sheep-like acceptance expressed in this thread continues to erode my faith in the future. Enjoy your pile of ashes or dystopian existence. I guess it would be better if he said he is still pissed at Axl for rejecting Snakepit material which would reopen an old feud potentially causing Guns to break up again. Theyd all lose the band as well as personal friendships. Wed no longer have GNR. But at least there was no censorship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 The story of the 1991 press contracts: http://www.a-4-d.com/t2465-1991-03-17-interview-with-alan-niven-in-los-angeles-times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Guapo Posted August 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2018 God forbid they lose any money! Because of...a question asked. Oh man...thank god at least Duff is still punk as fuck, right? RIGHT??? 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Competition Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 40 minutes ago, El Guapo said: God forbid they lose any money! Because of...a question asked. Oh man...thank god at least Duff is still punk as fuck, right? RIGHT??? haha yes. he even sells t-shirts that confirm it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Their 20 year feud was either caused by or intensified by things they may or may not have said about each other written in the media....or they've manage to make peace with each other by believing that. I don't see what's wrong with them protecting themselves from that happening again. I mean, I know, "they're so corporate" now but they're also grown ups now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Italian girl Posted August 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2018 I can't see the problem... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Apollo Posted August 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2018 As a former 20-year member of the media I can promise you that a lot of current “journalists” are specifically looking for click-bait answers or they are trying to get Slash to get angry and go off on a rant. Reporters and news outlets use to report the NEWS. Now....it’s all about promoting their agenda and trying to get headline quotes. Slash is a rock guitar player. He is getting ready to release a new album and go on tour. That’s mainly what he is trying to promote. And remember. The alternative is he pulls an Axl and just turns down all interview requests. But instead of talking about the upcoming album and tour and some questions about the partial- reunion, these reporters are desperately trying to get their tmz fame. They are asking questions about Perla. They are asking financial based questions about the tour. Questions about Izzy and Adler. Questions trying to secure a controversial quote about Axl. It has to be frustrating for the artist. It’s like going to dinner and drinks with an old friend. And ALL they want to talk about is your old high school shenanigans. “Remember when we got drunk on that jv basketball trip”....”remember when Joe’s parents were out of town and we had that huge rager.” After an hour of that you just want to sneak out the backdoor. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propaganda Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 it smells like Brazilian Picanha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Apollo said: As a former 20-year member of the media I can promise you that a lot of current “journalists” are specifically looking for click-bait answers or they are trying to get Slash to get angry and go off on a rant. Reporters and news outlets use to report the NEWS. Now....it’s all about promoting their agenda and trying to get headline quotes. Slash is a rock guitar player. He is getting ready to release a new album and go on tour. That’s mainly what he is trying to promote. And remember. The alternative is he pulls an Axl and just turns down all interview requests. But instead of talking about the upcoming album and tour and some questions about the partial- reunion, these reporters are desperately trying to get their tmz fame. They are asking questions about Perla. They are asking financial based questions about the tour. Questions about Izzy and Adler. Questions trying to secure a controversial quote about Axl. It has to be frustrating for the artist. It’s like going to dinner and drinks with an old friend. And ALL they want to talk about is your old high school shenanigans. “Remember when we got drunk on that jv basketball trip”....”remember when Joe’s parents were out of town and we had that huge rager.” After an hour of that you just want to sneak out the backdoor. Would you put Rolling Stone magazine in the same category as click bait outlets? Edited August 31, 2018 by soon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appetite4illusions Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 What most celebrities do is hire a top gun publicist. The publicist will literally sit over the interviewers shoulder, ready to pounce if their client is put in a sticky situation. Most of the time, they don't have to do anything, since there are only a few good publicists out there and they represent all the talent, if you burn one of them- you're likely to never get a good interview again. On Howard Stern, the publicist will kill an interview quickly if they sense Stern has gone beyond the pale. Gary will come running into the studio and exclaim "He's gotta go! He's got a bunch more interviews today." Listen to some Stern, there's usually a pattern that will emerge: Howard will wait until he's gotten a lot out of his subject before he'll ask an outrageous question, knowing that if the publicist pulls the interview, he's already got most of a show. I was listening to an old interview archive recently and there was one with actor Aaron Eckhart who played two-face. At the end of it, Howard gets into his sex life and basically traps Eckhart into an admission that he doesn't use sex protection and doesn't pull out! There's this moment where Eckhart is drowning and then Gary comes running in, "He's gotta go, he's got Good Morning America next!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, soon said: Would you put Rolling Stone magazine in the same category as click bait outlets? Rolling Stone is basically a public relations outlet for the democrat party and for the far liberal left. So I don’t really read it that much. I stay away from anybody or any outlet that is obsessively tied to one political party or 100% to one side (conservative or liberal). Back in the day they were one of the best magazines for music related feature stories. I can’t really comment how they are now though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Blackstar said: The story of the 1991 press contracts: http://www.a-4-d.com/t2465-1991-03-17-interview-with-alan-niven-in-los-angeles-times Thanks blackstar then again the misinterpretation did create excellent songs like get in the ring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_school_gnr_fan Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said: How exactly would Guns lose money from an interview gone wrong? Not asking to be a smart ass. Legitimately asking. Perhaps if there's new music in the can, then hackers uncover it online. Then everyone's stealing the new Guns N' Roses album, instead of buying it. Slash has been saying new Guns music is a possibility, and that's probably the best thing he can say. If he were to say a record is done, the odds of keeping it from leaking in this day and age are slim. Better for himself, and the band, to have all the bases covered with the press/media. Edited August 31, 2018 by Old_school_gnr_fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverburst80 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 12 hours ago, IncitingChaos said: I think the question about Perla and Axl got Slash mad. I think he halfway expected the rest of the questions at some point. Those questions were top notch. He questioned if this was simply a get together or an actual band haha but yea I imagine if an interview is taken the wrong way and Axl or someone gets mad and a show gets canceled then that’s technically money lost. i think questions like " so did your missus and Axls ex from 30 years ago get this thing rolling?" are prime examples as to why GNR members are touchy about doing interviews. The question about Axls lateness back in the day as well, trying to bring up things that might open some old wounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gem Archer Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 in this clickbait era, i don't see it as a bad thing IMO, however he's talking too much about gnr and it might upset someone in TB camp...so it's better to keep things under control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pentatonicamenor Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 37 minutes ago, Gem Archer said: in this clickbait era, i don't see it as a bad thing IMO, however he's talking too much about gnr and it might upset someone in TB camp...so it's better to keep things under control Yeah man, I'd do the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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