Rovim Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Tom2112 said: "Some fans think". Let's go with what we know, the village leaks were a mixed bag, I have no doubt that there's great stuff in the vault but I'm positive there's more god awful macdaddys and Silkworms. I don't see them releasing a double album even if Axl does have material for 2 records! Seems like an unnecessary risk. If one side is good and the other is a bit meh, the consensus won't be "yeah but we got 12 great songs" it'll be "half the album is shit, shouldn't have bothered". These are the discussions on UYI 30yrs later afterall, not saying I don't love UYI! ok but the village leaks do not reflect everything Axl has accumulated over the years. It doesn't even reflect the second half of Chinese cause it's just a work in progress with most of the tunes lacking a vocal track. all I'm saying is that a lot of people in the band or people who have worked with Axl have said there is a shitload of great unreleased material. Let's say that's true for the sake of argument cause Axl had a lot of time to hoard good shit. I would prefer it if Gn'R released more than just 1 killer album. Instead of just 14 killer tunes I would prefer it if they released 30 cause I'm pretty sure I would like most of the material. My enjoyment of Gn'R material is not limited to only enjoying the absolute best shit and Axl hasn't released enough material for me to want less shit to listen to. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Rovim said: ok but the village leaks do not reflect everything Axl has accumulated over the years. It doesn't even reflect the second half of Chinese cause it's just a work in progress with most of the tunes lacking a vocal track. all I'm saying is that a lot of people in the band or people who have worked with Axl have said there is a shitload of great unreleased material. Let's say that's true for the sake of argument cause Axl had a lot of time to hoard good shit. I would prefer it if Gn'R released more than just 1 killer album. Instead of just 14 killer tunes I would prefer it if they released 30 cause I'm pretty sure I would like most of the material. My enjoyment of Gn'R material is not limited to only enjoying the absolute best shit and Axl hasn't released enough material for me to want less shit to listen to. Well if we're going to go along with the notion that be has tons of legitimately great material, then of course it should be released... but then we get back to the why on earth if he had that kind of material is he sitting on it? I'd love two albums of great material, we all would! But realistically the odds of them pulling off a double record? It's not I'm their favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: Well if we're going to go along with the notion that be has tons of legitimately great material, then of course it should be released... but then we get back to the why on earth if he had that kind of material is he sitting on it? I'd love two albums of great material, we all would! But realistically the odds of them pulling off a double record? It's not I'm their favour. why would he sit on great material? I don't know, I can only speculate but maybe it's about a desire to release more than just a collection of great songs. a great album and I think a great Gn'R album for Axl is conditioned in the album achieving certain musical goals. Like some type of progression from the previous release, not disposable but a musical statement that will stand the test of time, would add to the legacy, not detract from it and that is a difficult goal to achieve. Especially with how Axl chooses to approach it as a musician and he can't do it alone, he's not one of those geniuses that don't need anyone else. he needs others to help him get there. so maybe he finds it hard to let go cause once he releases it, the process is over and the ability to potentially improve it is lost. I believe he really is a perfectionist. This shit happened with Tool as well. I think there are some similarities there. a double album is possible just cause maybe most of the work has been completed already. Shit like musical direction, having enough material, and production are maybe not obstacles anymore. Edited January 25, 2021 by Rovim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, Rovim said: why would he sit on great material? I don't know, I can only speculate but maybe it's about a desire to release more than just a collection of great songs. a great album and I think a great Gn'R album for Axl is conditioned in the album achieving certain musical goals. Like some type of progression from the previous release, not disposable but a musical statement that will stand the test of time, would add to the legacy, not detract from it and that is a difficult goal to achieve. Especially with how Axl chooses to approach it as a musician and he can't do it alone, he's not one of those geniuses that don't need anyone else. he needs others to help him get there. so maybe he finds it hard to let go cause once he releases it, the process is over and the ability to potentially improve it is lost. I believe he really is a perfectionist. This shit happened with Tool as well. I think there are some similarities there. a double album is possible just cause maybe most of the work has been completed already. Shit like musical direction, having enough material, and production are maybe not obstacles anymore. Tool eventually release the albums though, and they are mostly considered masterpieces 😄 I know what you're saying, and there's definitely perfectionism going on with the delays. In terms of Gnr we should pretty soon whether or not it's a double or single album, grab a comfortable seat😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I hope, single or double, we get a proper Silkworms and Oh My Buckethead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) On 1/25/2021 at 8:51 PM, Tom2112 said: Tool eventually release the albums though, and they are mostly considered masterpieces 😄 I know what you're saying, and there's definitely perfectionism going on with the delays. In terms of Gnr we should pretty soon whether or not it's a double or single album, grab a comfortable seat😄 well you know... different bands, different bullshit, but I think the 2 main differences between Tool and Gn'R are maybe that Axl didn't have Slash, Duff, Izzy, and Steven for all those years. Maybe if he had just 1 classic member still in the band with him in the Chinese era, things might have been different but maybe not. also Axl kinda took over Gn'R, it wasn't a democracy and he didn't seem to trust the others musically. The band also didn't have a shared goal like Tool had. Izzy checked out early and he was an important songwriter for Gn'R. it seems Slash wanted it to be like an AC/DC type of a deal, where Axl wanted it to be more like Queen. maybe now some things are different in Gn'R: band members have accepted their role in the band, made compromises and Slash and Duff have come to terms with Axl's shortcomings. Edited January 26, 2021 by Rovim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 2:23 PM, Gordon Comstock said: He still sounds like himself on The Seeker, Wichita Lineman, the verses on Slither, etc so hopefully any new stuff would utilize those more natural vocals. And he sounds freaking great on The Seeker and WL! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rjuncajun Posted January 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2021 16 hours ago, Tom-Ass said: And he sounds freaking great on The Seeker and WL! I personally really like The Seeker... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDemocracyRose Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Guns N' Roses need to make a record that Axl can sing live... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sweersa Posted January 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, TheDemocracyRose said: Guns N' Roses need to make a record that Axl can sing live... So, an instrumental album? 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 11 hours ago, TheDemocracyRose said: Guns N' Roses need to make a record that Axl can sing live... No, they need to make a record that will be fucking epic, and then choose songs that fit Axl for live rendition. They didn't play everything off UYI either, or just rarely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnderScott Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 15 hours ago, Rjuncajun said: I personally really like The Seeker... same here, I love it and Axl sounds brilliant on it. In fact, I wish he would just do more straight forward rock songs because he kills it! Stop doing multi-layered complicated songs with strings, French horns etc... and strip it back raw. Nothing substitutes for plain old good songwriting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallex78 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 16 hours ago, Rjuncajun said: I personally really like The Seeker... Every time they start the Seeker when I’ve seen them live, I’m like, fuck yes... they’re playing the slow version of You’re Crazy... then I realise, ah shit... it’s that fucking shit Seeker song... One of THE worst songs they’ve (Axl) ever chosen to cover. I absolutely hate it, and it’s long overstayed it’s welcome by about 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I don't hate The Seeker, but the song has no business being a staple in the playlist. Obviously, there's no rasp, so it's sort of a "relax" song for Axl, which I believe may be one of the main reasons, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendador Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, metallex78 said: Every time they start the Seeker when I’ve seen them live, I’m like, fuck yes... they’re playing the slow version of You’re Crazy... then I realise, ah shit... it’s that fucking shit Seeker song... One of THE worst songs they’ve (Axl) ever chosen to cover. I absolutely hate it, and it’s long overstayed it’s welcome by about 10 years I think GNR's version of Slither tops that! hahaha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlSlashthebest Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, metallex78 said: Every time they start the Seeker when I’ve seen them live, I’m like, fuck yes... they’re playing the slow version of You’re Crazy... then I realise, ah shit... it’s that fucking shit Seeker song... One of THE worst songs they’ve (Axl) ever chosen to cover. I absolutely hate it, and it’s long overstayed it’s welcome by about 10 years you forget 'I feel good" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I'd like a cover of Sailing released. I wonder how many (if any) of these covers have been recorded in the studio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, AxlSlashthebest said: you forget 'I feel good" That wasn't that bad. My only gripe was that they never got the verse intros correct! the band is supposed to wait for Axl, but they just put a straight 4 count, makes the whole thing sound way too square. They could have also added a bit more texture during the verse, it sounded a bit weak considering how many people are on the stage! BHS and Slither are are great songs performed awfully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, AxlSlashthebest said: you forget 'I feel good" That one was pretty fun. I liked the riff they added in the middle of the song. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Axl on I Feel Good sounded more like vintage Axl than almost every song performed over the NITL tour. And that’s really fucking odd if you ask me. But it made for a great performance in my opinion. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I don’t mind the covers live but I’d rather the album just focus on original music. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Please, no covers on "the new album". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 If they'd put out a new record on a regular basis, like every 3-5 years, then I wouldn't mind covers on their records but after 30 years they should be able to fill an album with 14 own songs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 The more covers (and Duff songs) on a new album, the more 'new stuff' they'll play live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: The more covers (and Duff songs) on a new album, the more 'new stuff' they'll play live. I really don't get that logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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