Tom-Ass Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 hours ago, GoodOlJohnnyK said: Honestly, who wants another Appetite at this point? I would. I would kill for another aggressive, heavy album.. After Appetite they released an Acoustic EP, ventured into those EPICS on the illusions, releases a punk cover album and whatever you want to call CD. Though CD wasn't "they" it was Axl.. Why not come back around and just release something in the vein of Appetite. Rock bands don't need to continuously evolve EVERY album. And honestly Appetite was their most consistent, solid and most well received record.. They will never be able to match that but why not try? They could still progress a bit while trying to deliver something in your face and bad ass. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 28 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said: I would. I would kill for another aggressive, heavy album.. After Appetite they released an Acoustic EP, ventured into those EPICS on the illusions, releases a punk cover album and whatever you want to call CD. Though CD wasn't "they" it was Axl.. Why not come back around and just release something in the vein of Appetite. Rock bands don't need to continuously evolve EVERY album. And honestly Appetite was their most consistent, solid and most well received record.. They will never be able to match that but why not try? They could still progress a bit while trying to deliver something in your face and bad ass. An attempt at an AFD style record would probably sound like SMKC with Axl on vocals, which doesn't interest me at all. Or worse, we'd get more 'aggressive' songs like Absurd But an EP/album like Lies would be cool... a few songs like You Ain't The First and Wichita Lineman, maybe some 'rockers' like Bad Obsession or the 2021 version of You're Crazy. Basically just blues songs that would fit Axl's natural voice. They're old multimillionaires, what have they got to be pissed off and aggressive about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 31 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: They're old multimillionaires, what have they got to be pissed off and aggressive about? The IRS. Too bad they already did that. Perhaps they can write about gray hair, restaurants, viagra, HOA fees, car insurance, doctor visits and exercise, dietary restrictions and figuring out smart phones and trying to figure out what young people are talking about. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 On 12/1/2022 at 6:55 AM, Spaghetti4twenty said: Was chattin with a buddy/fellow gnr fan at work the other day and we were talking about how it would be cool to get the rest of the franksteined “GnFn’R” post-CD tracks but at the end of the day wouldn’t it be cool if they just finished their legacy with an album by the original 5 guys? a proper sequel to appetite with the “real gnr” would be such a cool way to finish things off and I’d give my left nut for it having Steven and Izzy back just for the studio would be so cool and wouldn’t imply that they have to tour with that lineup No. Leave it alone. As much as I might enjoy seeing them all together again, I just want to keep that memory special and far away from present day reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gordon Comstock Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sweersa said: The IRS. Too bad they already did that. Perhaps they can write about gray hair, restaurants, viagra, HOA fees, car insurance, doctor visits and exercise, dietary restrictions and figuring out smart phones and trying to figure out what young people are talking about. Axl introducing a new song in 2023: "I wrote the chorus about my neighbor, you might've heard about her? This is a song called Don't Bother Me While I'm Jogging." 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Tom-Ass said: I would. I would kill for another aggressive, heavy album.. After Appetite they released an Acoustic EP, ventured into those EPICS on the illusions, releases a punk cover album and whatever you want to call CD. Though CD wasn't "they" it was Axl.. Why not come back around and just release something in the vein of Appetite. Rock bands don't need to continuously evolve EVERY album. And honestly Appetite was their most consistent, solid and most well received record.. They will never be able to match that but why not try? They could still progress a bit while trying to deliver something in your face and bad ass. you are obsessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merryfnchristmas Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: Axl introducing a new song in 2023: "I wrote the chorus about my neighbor, you might've heard about her? This is a song called Don't Bother Me While I'm Jogging." Pretty Backed Up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said: Axl introducing a new song in 2023: "I wrote the chorus about my neighbor, you might've heard about her? This is a song called Don't Bother Me While I'm Jogging." Imagine he writes a song about Rick and Tom Z and the Village leaks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Sweersa said: Imagine he writes a song about Rick and Tom Z and the Village leaks. Double Talkin' Jive II: Get The Songs Motherfucker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlvai Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 ...Cause i got no more pyro 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Tom-Ass said: I would. I would kill for another aggressive, heavy album.. After Appetite they released an Acoustic EP, ventured into those EPICS on the illusions, releases a punk cover album and whatever you want to call CD. Though CD wasn't "they" it was Axl.. Why not come back around and just release something in the vein of Appetite. Rock bands don't need to continuously evolve EVERY album. And honestly Appetite was their most consistent, solid and most well received record.. They will never be able to match that but why not try? They could still progress a bit while trying to deliver something in your face and bad ass. bands don't need to evolve at all. If you have a formula that works for you and your audience, you can make very slight adjustments or small changes. Personally I prefer musicians that do have that desire like QOTSA where every album is very different but still sounds like QOTSA. I wouldn't want every band to be that drastic though and some QOTSA fans have lost interest because they were attached to a sound and then the next album was too different for them. it depends on what you want to do as a musician. UYI was more than just the "epics". A lot of the tunes were written close to when Appetite was released so if they wanted to, they could have at least told Mike Clink to try and make it more Appetite sounding although they lost the team that helped create it but at least 1 person in the band wasn't interested in doing that so it sounds very different. I don't think Axl was ever interested in doing the AC/DC thing but I think Slash wouldn't have minded it judging by the Conspirators output which sounds more versatile compared to AC/DC but not nearly as good imho. Edited December 3, 2022 by Rovim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 11 hours ago, Rovim said: bands don't need to evolve at all. If you have a formula that works for you and your audience, you can make very slight adjustments or small changes. Personally I prefer musicians that do have that desire like QOTSA where every album is very different but still sounds like QOTSA. I wouldn't want every band to be that drastic though and some QOTSA fans have lost interest because they were attached to a sound and then the next album was too different for them. it depends on what you want to do as a musician. UYI was more than just the "epics". A lot of the tunes were written close to when Appetite was released so if they wanted to, they could have at least told Mike Clink to try and make it more Appetite sounding although they lost the team that helped create it but at least 1 person in the band wasn't interested in doing that so it sounds very different. I don't think Axl was ever interested in doing the AC/DC thing but I think Slash wouldn't have minded it judging by the Conspirators output which sounds more versatile compared to AC/DC but not nearly as good imho. I think gnr are realistically looking at the "sum of everything we've done on record store far" album. Little bit AFD, UYI and Chinese. I'd be happy with that record. I'd be happy with an all out balls to wall record, I'd be ok with almost anything!! I would like a new gnr album to be more upbeat and uptempo than CD, which was a pretty dark and moody record... Loved it, but I think the point was made 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingarthur Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 20 hours ago, rumandraisin said: And this is the kinda thing this forum does best. A show is announced so we assume a new song will be played or released around the time of the show. Then of course when it doesn't happen we say "fuck this band... When's the next show, they wouldn't play it on the opening night due to *insert excuse*". Next show comes and nothing happens. 3rd show thread ends up being 4 pages long. Gets to the end of the tour and again, based on nothing, we expect a new song. If the show falls after the upcoming Friday we assume it'll be released at midnight. There'll be a big countdown thread based on nothing then we criticise the band for not following through on literally nothing. Then the last show of the tour happens and nothing exciting happens. But wait! A month later, a show for the following year is announced! Surely 2024 will be the year we get, by that point a 25 year old Axl vocal track that some fans wouldn't have even been born when the vox were recorded. But we'll still be here because we love it secretly. They have such a weird hold over us. This band will implode soon enough. And I look forward to it…. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ruttu69 Posted December 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2022 4 hours ago, smokingarthur said: This band will implode soon enough. And I look forward to it…. Maybe you have better things to do than be here? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 7 hours ago, smokingarthur said: This band will implode soon enough. And I look forward to it…. If that's what you look forward to, then you'll be disappointed. It's not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 They won't implode if they stop. They'll just stop touring and we'll never see Axl again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Yeah, they're likely to quietly retire having made much more money than they ever did in their prime. Who knows if we'll ever see Axl again but I imagine the other members would move on to other projects. I don't see Slash ever retiring as a musician and could easily see him keep going into his 70's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Why would they retire? They probably won't be touring so constantly and intensely, but they'll still be playing from time to time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/2/2022 at 8:51 AM, jamillos said: Yeah but the problem is that Appetite has such an iconic status that it can’t be compared to anything else. You say nobody expects them to be at the same level as back then, but the problem is, such album definitely would be compared a lot. And Guns can’t be compared to Metallica in this sense either, because the latter have released a dozen of albums in the meantime, while GN’R – if we don’t count CD, which many people only consider as Axl’s solo (and I don’t blame them) – only released UYI ever since, which itself is 30 years old. So there’s a whole different "pressure" in this situation, should they go back to their roots, as you say. People would expect another Jungle or whatever. I’m not saying they couldn’t create similar songs (and maybe they also have some usable material from 94–96), but I just don’t see a record in 2023/24 sounding like Appetite and having enough memorable songs / guitar riffs for it not to flop. Plus, of course, the everlasting issue of Axl’s current voice capabilities. I’m not saying it couldn’t be a blast if they attempted something of the sort. How does any band do anything if they are thinking "people expect us to top our most popular song from 30yrs ago", that's not conducive to getting anything done. GNR fans want to hear something that 'sounds like' Welcome to the jungle, November rain etc. and maybe something a bit different spotted in there... the expectation is that they can't exceed their biggest hits (not even talking about success, just quality). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucketEgg Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 if GnR release a new album,, but it's a cover album like the Spaghetti Incident, how happy or sad would that make you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gilby Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/3/2022 at 12:27 PM, merryfnchristmas said: Pretty Backed Up Right Next Door To Taco Bell 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 37 minutes ago, BucketEgg said: if GnR release a new album,, but it's a cover album like the Spaghetti Incident, how happy or sad would that make you? Depends. I don’t believe we’re getting a full new album, ever, so I would take it as “better than nothing”. But if it came out instead of the remaining 4 CDII songs Slash mentioned, then it’d be disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingarthur Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Blackstar said: If that's what you look forward to, then you'll be disappointed. It's not going to happen. I’m glad you were able to travel into the future. But, looking at the past, I can make certain observations and conclusions and I conclude the band will implode. There will be a power struggle that will be the end of GNR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, smokingarthur said: I’m glad you were able to travel into the future. But, looking at the past, I can make certain observations and conclusions and I conclude the band will implode. There will be a power struggle that will be the end of GNR. You're overlooking the fact that they're a quarter of a century older now. And if they were to implode it would have happened within the first two years of the reunion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Blackstar said: You're overlooking the fact that they're a quarter of a century older now. And if they were to implode it would have happened within the first two years of the reunion. Yes. The band is a business and will exist as long as Slash, Duff and Axl want to make money. Even if they were to fall out, they would still likely keep the operation running purely for the income. They all need each other to make the big bucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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