Tom2112 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 22 hours ago, Ratam said: I remember years ago an video that Axl showed his guitars collection. Maybe someone recall it too. I think this was a fraction of Axls collection. I read an interview with someone that was in the GNR camp in 90s/00s and he said Axl was playing a PRS and I have a vague memory of hearing that Axl had some hollowbody guitars? Someday if we're good and get back into TB's good books they might show us the full collection. Gibson do a series called the collection, maybe they could get Slash to put a word in😄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Some nice words about the man. From Scott Ian, Anthrax: https://blabbermouth.net/news/axl-rose-crushed-it-singing-with-ac-dc-says-anthrax-guitarist-scott-ian-it-was-fantastic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 If Appetite was written by 12 different bands 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Was mentioning this in another thread but Axl from 2003-2005 is a bigger mystery than 1994-2000 which has been pretty well documented. I feel like a reason for this is most of the major recording for Chinese Democracy was done at that point. He wasn't in the studio nearly as much with producers/band members and wasn't actively recruiting for a new band like the late 90's. Feels like a period where he really laid low outside lawsuits, band business, and recording parts for GTA: San Andreas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, mystery said: Was mentioning this in another thread but Axl from 2003-2005 is a bigger mystery than 1994-2000 which has been pretty well documented. I feel like a reason for this is most of the major recording for Chinese Democracy was done at that point. He wasn't in the studio nearly as much with producers/band members and wasn't actively recruiting for a new band like the late 90's. Feels like a period where he really laid low outside lawsuits, band business, and recording parts for GTA: San Andreas. It seems like he was still recording and tweaking the songs in that time, just very inconsistently. Wasn't Soul Monster recorded christmas eve 2004? I thought the vocals for Better and Sorry were from those years, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: It seems like he was still recording and tweaking the songs in that time, just very inconsistently. Wasn't Soul Monster recorded christmas eve 2004? I thought the vocals for Better and Sorry were from those years, too. At that point Chinese Democracy didn't seem to be a round the clock thing as much as something to tinker on with a few more songs added. Shackler's Revenge was probably the last song worked on in 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Imagine using you kids to sell useless merch https://www.youngroadie.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeingBoring Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: Imagine using you kids to sell useless merch https://www.youngroadie.com $50 for a bandana when you can get one for $1.25 at the dollar store. And you can make a tie-dye shirt for less than $35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, BeingBoring said: $50 for a bandana when you can get one for $1.25 at the dollar store. And you can make a tie-dye shirt for less than $35. i think its absolutely disgraceful. especially in combination with whoring out your kids for this shit. Team Brazil is just all about the money. I wonder if there are idiots out there who buy this useless crap?! Edited February 3, 2023 by Stay.Of.Execution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: i think its absolutely disgraceful. especially in combination with whoring out your kids for this shit. Team Brazil is just all about the money. I wonder if there are idiots out there who buy this useless crap?! The only thing that is questionable is using your own kids in commercials. Whether it is "useless" is really not up to me or anyone else to decide. If people want the merch, then they should go for it and be happy about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 minute ago, SoulMonster said: The only thing that is questionable is using your own kids in commercials. Whether it is "useless" is really not up to me or anyone else to decide. If people want the merch, then they should go for it and be happy about it. I think everyone can decide whether this shit is useless or not (for them). But this stuff is just pointless. There's no reason to support this, especially since those people are covered in money anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: I think everyone can decide whether this shit is useless or not (for them). But this stuff is just pointless. There's no reason to support this, especially since those people are covered in money anyway. No reason? Are you the arbiter of whether other people have reasons for doing something? What if they collect merch? What if it gives them joy? Who are you to shit on people for what they choose to do with their money? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: No reason? Are you the arbiter of whether other people have reasons for doing something? What if they collect merch? What if it gives them joy? Who are you to shit on people for what they choose to do with their money? People can do what they want. But i think it's pathetic to buy that kind of merch from these people and support this. Edited February 3, 2023 by Stay.Of.Execution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: People can do what they want. But i think it's pathetic to buy that kind of merch and support this. That's fine. I don't buy merch, either I just don't think it is right to judge those that do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeingBoring Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: No reason? Are you the arbiter of whether other people have reasons for doing something? What if they collect merch? What if it gives them joy? Who are you to shit on people for what they choose to do with their money? Gatekeeping criticism of a crappy capitalistic enterprise is one of the weirder things I've read on this forum already. I don't get the emotional fragility and butthurt over opinions that don't affect you, but okay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cineater Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 7 hours ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: Imagine using you kids to sell useless merch https://www.youngroadie.com Ever heard of the family farm? And a thousand other family run businesses. Many useless, imo, heirs out there who never lifted a finger to earn that family money. Comes down to the values you want to teach your kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, BeingBoring said: Gatekeeping criticism of a crappy capitalistic enterprise is one of the weirder things I've read on this forum already. I don't get the emotional fragility and butthurt over opinions that don't affect you, but okay. It is not criticism of the merch that I reacted to, but criticism of those whom for whatever reasons buy said merch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I saw Alter Bridge on Wednesday night in Montclair, NJ. I've seen Myles perform 4 times now. I think he's good with Slash, but better with Alter Bridge. I also Wolfgang Van Halen as an opening act on Wednesday. Frank Sidoris is part of Wolfgang's band. In my opinion, I think that the end is near for SMKC. Wolfgang is the future of hard rock so I can see Frank being a part of that band for a long time to come. GNR isn't getting any younger. Slash built his legacy in GNR and I'm sure that he'll want to end it the right way with at least one more album. I think Slash will focus much more on GNR as the years go by. I think the other band members of SMKC will focus on their other music endeavors as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 7 hours ago, Draguns said: I saw Alter Bridge on Wednesday night in Montclair, NJ. I've seen Myles perform 4 times now. I think he's good with Slash, but better with Alter Bridge. I also Wolfgang Van Halen as an opening act on Wednesday. Frank Sidoris is part of Wolfgang's band. In my opinion, I think that the end is near for SMKC. Wolfgang is the future of hard rock so I can see Frank being a part of that band for a long time to come. GNR isn't getting any younger. Slash built his legacy in GNR and I'm sure that he'll want to end it the right way with at least one more album. I think Slash will focus much more on GNR as the years go by. I think the other band members of SMKC will focus on their other music endeavors as well. I strongly disagree. Strongly. SMKC is Slash's baby. I think he loves being in that band with no bullshit and total artistic control. He seems to hate taking breaks from touring in most cases so this is like a perfect solution for him. I like Sidoris. The guy is a good guitar player and pretty fun on stage as well. I wish him the best, no matter what he chooses to do next with the shit he had to deal with recently,, but having said all that, Slash doesn't need him to keep The Conspirators going imo. I really like Wolfie too, even though I didn't really care for his debut album. I think the next one is probably going to be better and I like some tracks, but he is not the future of rock imho. Slash can't do everything he wants to do in Gn'R, Axl moves too slowly and has the final say. Slash can end it the right way while still keeping The Conspirators going for at least 50 more years. also, Conspirators band members seem to really like being in the band and why wouldn't they? they get to make music and tour with Slash with no ego bullshit and they seem tight as a group which must be very cool for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 9 hours ago, Rovim said: I strongly disagree. Strongly. SMKC is Slash's baby. I think he loves being in that band with no bullshit and total artistic control. He seems to hate taking breaks from touring in most cases so this is like a perfect solution for him. I like Sidoris. The guy is a good guitar player and pretty fun on stage as well. I wish him the best, no matter what he chooses to do next with the shit he had to deal with recently,, but having said all that, Slash doesn't need him to keep The Conspirators going imo. I really like Wolfie too, even though I didn't really care for his debut album. I think the next one is probably going to be better and I like some tracks, but he is not the future of rock imho. Slash can't do everything he wants to do in Gn'R, Axl moves too slowly and has the final say. Slash can end it the right way while still keeping The Conspirators going for at least 50 more years. also, Conspirators band members seem to really like being in the band and why wouldn't they? they get to make music and tour with Slash with no ego bullshit and they seem tight as a group which must be very cool for them. I understand that this is Slash's baby, but so is GNR. Honestly, I think Myles has more chemistry with band members from Alter Bridge than with SMKC even though he does enjoy playing with Slash and those guys. There is a difference from what I saw. Maybe it's due to Alter Bridge being around longer. Don't forget SMKC wasn't supposed to last this long. So who knows. I disagree with you on Wolfgang. I think he is part of the future of hard rock. He's really good live. With that being said, I do think he now needs to stop touring and write a second album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Draguns said: I understand that this is Slash's baby, but so is GNR. Honestly, I think Myles has more chemistry with band members from Alter Bridge than with SMKC even though he does enjoy playing with Slash and those guys. There is a difference from what I saw. Maybe it's due to Alter Bridge being around longer. Don't forget SMKC wasn't supposed to last this long. So who knows. I disagree with you on Wolfgang. I think he is part of the future of hard rock. He's really good live. With that being said, I do think he now needs to stop touring and write a second album. writing of Wolfie's second album is pretty far along as I unserstand it, which is pretty cool. I think he is going to finish some material from what he had from the time he worked on his debut album, so I don't think it's going to take him very long to finish it plus he's very talented and works quickly he seems. The future of rock thing is a long debate, maybe doesn't belong in this thread, but why would I shit on it if that's what you feel? let's just say I'm happy Wolfgang is finding success and acceptance. That's great. I 100% agree that Myles has better chemistry with Tremonti and Alter Bridge, that seems to be his home. With Slash it just seems effortless when it comes to their personalities and Myles seem to really love and admire Slash and you get the feeling he doesn't want to let the Slash down. They do share a chemistry I think, but it's just not like what Myles and Tremonti have. Like Axl and Slash in a way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Anyone have that picture of NIN standing under a sign that says "Chinese democracy"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitchisback Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/3/2023 at 5:04 PM, Draguns said: Wolfgang is the future of hard rock Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 12 hours ago, Bitchisback said: Lol Wolfgang was also the future of classical music over 200 years ago. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoMw94 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) On 2/3/2023 at 10:04 PM, Draguns said: .In my opinion, I think that the end is near for SMKC. Slash has already said more is coming from The Conspirators. Also, Frank doesn't contribute to Mammoth WVH, Wolfgang plays everything in the studio. Frank has played on the last two SMKC records On 2/4/2023 at 3:07 PM, Rovim said: writing of Wolfie's second album is pretty far along as I understand it Hasn't he practically finished recrding it? Edited February 8, 2023 by DoMw94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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