Sweersa Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, Arnuld said: It has to be Soul Monster. I cannot imagine another song having a meaner bridge than that. It’s exactly how Axl described it in the chats in 2008. If Me And My Elvis became Leave Me Alone and then Soul Monster and then Monster, that’s a crazy transition instrumentally. Plus in 2010 it didn’t sound anything like the 2000 mix. But everything else makes sense. @Dexter please help us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingBat Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, megaguns1982 said: Funny that when Fernando said “the general is a monster” cryptically he was saying that we’ve had the general confused with monster. Yeah, but the General is the monster. It's the same song (sort of) and that is cool as fuck. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Arnuld said: It has to be Soul Monster. I cannot imagine another song having a meaner bridge than that. It’s exactly how Axl described it in the chats in 2008. It could be Soul Monster, but it could also be that the General orchestra was chopped up and added to Monstrocity, because we still have no clue what that is/was. The 'most Black Sabbath moment' description fits Me & My Elvis a lot more than it fits Monsters, but the bridge in Monsters fits the description of the bridge in Soul Monster. All 3 songs were listed separately in the CD2 email. It's all speculation for now. At this point I don't even care, it's a great song that I've had on repeat all day. Edited October 28, 2023 by Gordon Comstock 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugworth Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Bucketdude_666 said: The General is AI generated, no way that is Axl voice, he never sang that way in the studio. 1 hour ago, Bucketdude_666 said: I feel like "the general" in this leak is AI generated ... so many things out of timing and the vocals ... Monsters is Amazing 1 hour ago, Bucketdude_666 said: I don't think if thats a real gnr song it would stay on youtube for 3 hours. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STPGNR4EVER Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I think the General is incredible-amazing vocals as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, megaguns1982 said: Funny that when Fernando said “the general is a monster” cryptically he was saying that we’ve had the general confused with monster. It is such a crazy chain of stuff lol so we (the fans) were right that "the parts we heard somewhere" Axl mentioned was indeed the pre-show orchestra music.... But the song we thought it was ended up being another song tied to The General that used parts of the orchestra, and The General was actually another song that used other parts of the orchestral intro This whole thing is like trying to explain the Lannister family tree to someone who doesn't know Game of Thrones Edited October 28, 2023 by WhazUp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agustingloger Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I think the general would be cooler withouth Axl's vocals on the end and just the band. Slash sounds sick but with Axl screams they are a Bit low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted October 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Sweersa said: If Me And My Elvis became Leave Me Alone and then Soul Monster and then Monster, that’s a crazy transition instrumentally. Plus in 2010 it didn’t sound anything like the 2000 mix. But everything else makes sense. @Dexter please help us. Me and My Elvis is clearly another song than Monsters. And if Monsters is Soul Monster (and I believe it is), then Me and My Elvis was never Soul Monster. It was just that fans jumped to conclusions because of "Elvis" in the title. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Bucketdude_666 said: I feel like "the general" in this leak is AI generated ... so many things out of timing and the vocals ... Monsters is Amazing Wouldn't that be funny if it was 😂 Who leaked the songs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, jimisbatman said: Wouldn't that be funny if it was 😂 Who leaked the songs? Who would do this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingBat Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, agustingloger said: I think the general would be cooler withouth Axl's vocals on the end and just the band. Slash sounds sick but with Axl screams they are a Bit low Make a band and do it yourself then, your formula sounds easy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: Who would do this? Disgruntled fan believing he's entitled to something, unsure. Do we know who leaked it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, jimisbatman said: Disgruntled fan believing he's entitled to something, unsure. Do we know who leaked it? I think he was being cute 😉 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agustingloger Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, DingBat said: Make a band and do it yourself then, your formula sounds easy? It was just an opinion. Take it easy. Few posts before i said i love both songs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Gotta say, I originally (and still) prefer Monsters over The General, but the chorus on The General is catchy as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketdude_666 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 18 minutes ago, jimisbatman said: Wouldn't that be funny if it was 😂 Who leaked the songs? would be cruel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I wish Monsters had some crazy Brain fills! He is awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledge Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Looking forward to listening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post you know who Posted October 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Sausagebrain said: Gotta say that Monsters bought a big smile to my face. That voice, that guitar.. I wonder about the lyrics of the two halves. Are they describing two sides of an abusive relationship? (That is my hot take after listening through once). To me it feels like the same person looking at the same abuse in different times/maturity. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAxlMorrison Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 42 minutes ago, DeadHorseinaComa said: No one takes away anything from that era, but if I fell in love with Guns for those times I wouldn’t have stuck around if not for this new kind of music. As with everything in life it’s about the journey, you know Same. I feel like if the story ended after the spaghetti incident, they may have faded away. The intrigue around Axl is what kept interest from a lot of people. Sure, jungle, sweet child, November rain still would’ve been all time great songs, but without Axl’s 1994-2008 story, interest wanes. The promise of exceptional and progressive new material was what hooked a lot of us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there is no dana only zool Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I'm mad at myself for listening when I SWORE I would not... but I did.. and I agree with everyone else who says these songs are incredible. That nasty riff in General, holy shit is that genuinely "heavy." And then Monsters- I love it because it makes me think of how Prostitute and Atlas are: that they totally sound like, 1996/97, VH1 Pop up video and.... i don't know, yes, incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, there is no dana only zool said: I'm mad at myself for listening when I SWORE I would not... but I did.. and I agree with everyone else who says these songs are incredible. That nasty riff in General, holy shit is that genuinely "heavy." And then Monsters- I love it because it makes me think of how Prostitute and Atlas are: that they totally sound like, 1996/97, VH1 Pop up video and.... i don't know, yes, incredible. Can't blame yourself when the management fucked us around with the release date. Whoever leaked it is a legend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DK6 Posted October 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2023 I'm quite shocked that so many people seem to prefer monsters. For me it only works as a follow on to the general. I love the general but find monsters a bit repetitive after a while. Really like it but mainly as a whole song combined. Monsters could be half as long and I'd be happy. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Draguns Posted October 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2023 I really wonder if the subject matter of the song is why Axl delayed it for a long time. I would imagine that it would be extremely hard on Axl to release this song since it is very vulnerable and personal. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmus1 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I’m not sure if anyone else has posted this yet, but I think I understand the ASCAP registration now. “The General and Monsters” was actually going to be vinyl exclusive, and was registered as it appeared on the vinyl (maybe?). Also, I listened to it so many times and it just sounds like a meh rip of a vinyl. I think this has to be the final mix, but there’s a lot of low end rumble and ripping that sounds like it could be the cause of the recall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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