Gimpy Hewitt Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 Forgot to mention that the 12.99 a month is entry level, if you want high res audio it’s 24.99 per month 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, cineater said: $12.99/mo? Go fuck yourself Metallic. Doesn't sound like a sound business plan to me. Maybe they have elite fans, lots of elite fans. I don’t think it’s THAT expensive and to be fair, there are loads of other bands on the service too (Pearl Jam/Springsteen if u like that stuff). Better to have the opportunity to say ‘no thanks’ than not have anything in the first place. Edited January 26, 2019 by DTJ80 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted January 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: Isn't $13/month the same as a Netflix subscription? If GNR did that, and it were audio and video I'd sign up for it in a heartbeat. That's the thing: I don't care who claims otherwise on this site, MANY of us would sign up in a heartbeat for something like this at that price. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 This band is not efficient enough for such a thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Perhaps their record contract with Universal doesn’t make something like this worth visiting. They can’t just release shows and have a streaming site without losing the majority of the revenue to the label and working out a deal. Metallica now has their own independent label to facilitate releases and also owns their old masters. Not really fair to compare the two 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourettes2400 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 This is just one of many things that they could be making money on but would rather give us $1000 box sets with tattoos. Metallica and Pearl Jam set the bar for fan clubs and how to treat fans. I saw Metallica a few nights ago and they must have thanked the fans 5 or 6 times during the concert. Mentally I couldn’t help but think about how Axl usually doesn’t even speak 5 or 6 times at any concert, but I have been a massive GN’R fan for so long that it has just become exceptable. It is pretty sad, but this is the band we love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 My guess is in regards to streaming is that this all becomes a mute point in the future when Vevo monetizes via subscription and pulls all its artists from YT. Then to entice us they will add more content then was previously available by all the acts on YT, including Guns. Theres not much point in Vevo existing, except if they plan to monetize. That being said, if there were a Guns stream, Im not one who chooses to spend money on more then 2 video streaming services at once (more power to those who do, though). And I fear that a Guns Streaming would loose me to Disney in a heart beat come December. Guns is my favourite band ever, but at that price point Id want access to the entire Universal roster, especially so there would be new content added regularly like Netflix offers. Im thinking about how empty the periscope threads got on show days on here towards the end of each leg. Star of legs theyd be a hot thread and then by the end of the leg there'd be barely any action in those threads. By that measure Id say people agree with me to some extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carne_asaDA Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 18 hours ago, Evan442 said: The California Raisins have more music available than GnR I cherish my CR collector's drinking glass set from Hardee's more than Chinese Democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2k Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 18 hours ago, Gimpy Hewitt said: Recently Metallica announced that they joined a streaming service to stream the audio of over 600 of their previous shows, I think it costs $12.99 a month. I cannot fathom why GNR wouldn’t just make some money like this streaming their soundboards from over the years. What’re your guys thoughts? That is what happens when you have your house keeper and her family as your managers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR™ Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 35 minutes ago, gnfnr2k said: That is what happens when you have your house keeper and her family as your managers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 This seems like a very niche thing. How long will people justify $12.99 (or $24.99) a month for something like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 hour ago, -W.A.R- said: This seems like a very niche thing. How long will people justify $12.99 (or $24.99) a month for something like this? Depends how often they update it. If they want $25 a month I'd expect them to start with at least 50 shows and a documentary or two (the Perfect Crime documentary, South America 2010 documentary, 2006 European tour documentary, Troubadour 2016 soundcheck and rehearsals, etc.) and add at least 15-20 shows a month, UYI rehearsal footage, NITL rehearsal footage, documentaries, all in high quality... y'know, stuff that would actually be worth the price. I'd pay $25 for a copy of the Calgary 2010 show I saw, or the Seattle 2016 show. I could see a lot of people doing 1-3 month trials just to get a copy of a show they attended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 hour ago, -W.A.R- said: This seems like a very niche thing. How long will people justify $12.99 (or $24.99) a month for something like this? At least other artists are willing to give it a try and find out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 I would subscribe straight away, but i dunno how long i'd continue because no doubt it would pretty soon get old. I'd also want physical copies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangoSkank Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Are people really busting their balls over $13/month? Who the hell doesn't have that? And if you don't have it, you can very simply not buy it. It ain't life or death, it's Metallica recordings (a really good live band to, btw). I don't know the exact details with it, but if I was a hardcore fan I'd almost definitely sign up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_school_gnr_fan Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 I wouldn't pay $12.99 a month for old Guns N' Roses shows. I WOULD pay $12.99 a month for a GN'R "loot crate". Those things are pretty cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSoftie Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Old_school_gnr_fan said: I wouldn't pay $12.99 a month for old Guns N' Roses shows. I WOULD pay $12.99 a month for a GN'R "loot crate". Those things are pretty cool Nooo don't give them ideas... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 6 hours ago, guitarpatch said: Perhaps their record contract with Universal doesn’t make something like this worth visiting. They can’t just release shows and have a streaming site without losing the majority of the revenue to the label and working out a deal. Metallica now has their own independent label to facilitate releases and also owns their old masters. Not really fair to compare the two I guess my point was that with proper powerhouse management in place early doors, they have been able to get to the point where they make all own choices, have the Blackened label, own their masters etc. GNR being a top level group should have had that kind of management in place from the moment they went stratospheric. That’s not to say the management they have had has been sub-par, it’s the fact they should have had elite level management that may have steered the band through post UYI choppy waters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarpatch Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, DTJ80 said: I guess my point was that with proper powerhouse management in place early doors, they have been able to get to the point where they make all own choices, have the Blackened label, own their masters etc. GNR being a top level group should have had that kind of management in place from the moment they went stratospheric. That’s not to say the management they have had has been sub-par, it’s the fact they should have had elite level management that may have steered the band through post UYI choppy waters. They signed that deal back in the early 90’s. Not much they could have done outside of releasing albums and for UMG to accept those albums to fulfill the deal (Frank Zappa killed the ploy of releasing albums without label acceptance and time frames to get out of record deals) The label wants control of all releases and more importantly during the last decade, a possible release with Slash’s involvement. No management team can get them out of their deal. UMG would rather put the band in limbo than drop them and lose out on that revenue Edited January 27, 2019 by guitarpatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cineater Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 You know it's up to the band what they want to do with their business. Some fans keep asking for more, more, more, bigger, bigger, bigger. The only thing Axl has really said he wanted was "a god damn band". Slash tells us all the time, his interest is being on the stage. The band may just be in that sweet spot where they are doing what they want. Maybe they aren't going to complicate/grow the business any more than what it takes to let them do what they want to do with their life. I haven't really seen or heard of the band wanting these things the fans keep thinking they should be doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 13 hours ago, cineater said: $12.99/mo? Go fuck yourself Metallic. Doesn't sound like a sound business plan to me. Maybe they have elite fans, lots of elite fans. Well, so far you had to pay that amount per show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 9 hours ago, guitarpatch said: They signed that deal back in the early 90’s. Not much they could have done outside of releasing albums and for UMG to accept those albums to fulfill the deal (Frank Zappa killed the ploy of releasing albums without label acceptance and time frames to get out of record deals) The label wants control of all releases and more importantly during the last decade, a possible release with Slash’s involvement. No management team can get them out of their deal. UMG would rather put the band in limbo than drop them and lose out on that revenue Fair enough - but perhaps a better deal could have been negotiated in the first place! And let’s not forget MetallicA even went as far as suing their own record company to get control of the masters - which was extremely shrewd. On the flip side, Def Leppard didn’t have control (not sure if that’s changed) and were churning out re-recorded versions for digital platforms. Weirdly, I’m sure they are/were also represented by Q-Prime so go figure as to why they were in that scenario. Maybe Lars was more ‘fuck you - that’s ours’ than Leppard were as is his personality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) In the early days no one wanted to manage Guns. And that was before riots and no shows. I'm not sure that Q Prime would touch them with a 10 ft poll. Azoff got some shit done and Axl sued him to show his appreciation And even today their tour management is getting layered with LN people. Edited January 27, 2019 by soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 They’ve just made kazillions, they’re not missing out on anything. Nothing to prove either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 19 hours ago, Tourettes2400 said: This is just one of many things that they could be making money on but would rather give us $1000 box sets with tattoos. Metallica and Pearl Jam set the bar for fan clubs and how to treat fans. I saw Metallica a few nights ago and they must have thanked the fans 5 or 6 times during the concert. Mentally I couldn’t help but think about how Axl usually doesn’t even speak 5 or 6 times at any concert, but I have been a massive GN’R fan for so long that it has just become exceptable. It is pretty sad, but this is the band we love. Metallica setting the bar on treating fans?! Really?! Is that the reason they brought down Napster since they "love" the fans?? I love Metallica but let's kinda be realistic about being fan friendly. On the other hand, Pearl Jam actually does care for the fans by going against TicketMaster in the 90s. I give them a lot of credit for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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