SWINGTRADER Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 minute ago, sl4yer said: I'm sure he was reffering to long break First show in long time and he sucks ok. So he is delusional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 It becomes clearer each day that AC/DC took its toll on Axl. He is losing range, and not going for high notes he never had a problem before. it all started with those Hells Bells voice cracks, which started appearing in GNR shows in 2017. Now it seems something more severe is going on. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner927 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, SWINGTRADER said: ok. So he is delusional. He's delusional that it's been 7 months since their last show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendestroi95 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 thank god we don't have a proshot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 I won't slam the guy as i truly don't think it is a matter of rehearsals or effort. He's been of for some time now, I fear 2016 might have been Axl's last good run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRmello77 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 3 hours ago, shotsfired cro said: This! He doesn't give shit about his fans. Slim is definately not the word that can be used for Axl. You were probably to far away. He is as FAT as never before. Please spread your negative statements somewhere else, no need to be so harsh. may I also say that for the average American his age he is quite slim obesitas is a huge problem in that country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Did he really say he sucked and blew it? Do we have any videos of that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINGTRADER Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, GNRmello77 said: Please spread your negative statements somewhere else, no need to be so harsh. may I also say that for the average American his age he is quite slim obesitas is a huge problem in that country. Bullshit. Is Duff fat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, Pedrolg said: I won't slam the guy as i truly don't think it is a matter of rehearsals or effort. He's been of for some time now, I fear 2016 might have been Axl's last good run. Did you even attend any GNR concerts in 2017 or did you watch it through YouTube? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Draguns said: Did you even attend any GNR concerts in 2017 or did you watch it through YouTube? Please don't start saying recorded footage magically makes vocals sound worse again I don't think I can handle any more of that. If anything it sounds better than it actually is when you're there because of the atmosphere. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Yeah, that's BS. And i actually went to shows in 2017 and 2016. There were also proshots and soundboards from Apollo, RIR and Fórum. Axl has been bad for a while now, and hasn't been really great with GNR since 2016's US leg. Berlin imo is a case of putting the tour on hold to see a doctor and a vocal coach to sort things out. The man can't sing right now. It happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Draguns said: Did you even attend any GNR concerts in 2017 or did you watch it through YouTube? I saw them 3 times in 2016 and 2 times in 2017 - even when you're there, 10 ft away from the guy, you can tell when he sounds bad. The show in Vancouver, while having some good moments like I Feel Good or Nightrain, had some absolutely terrible moments like TIL, November Rain, or Better, he really just coasted through about 90% of the show. The next show at the Gorge Amphitheater was noticeably better/more consistent. It's not a matter of youtube/recordings somehow altering his vocals... if he sounds good or bad live, he'll sound good or bad on the recording whether it's pro-shot or cellphone-shot. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jw224 said: Please don't start saying recorded footage magically makes vocals sound worse again I don't think I can handle any more of that. If anything it sounds better than it actually is when you're there because of the atmosphere. Not really. Just look at what happened today with the sound. My point was that rather than sitting at home listening to a stream, go out to a concert or two to judge. I went to concerts at MetLife and MSG. Both times he sounded fantastic. You can even hear it in the recording on YouTube as well. If he sounds consistently good or bad at a live concert that you have been to then you have a point. Otherwise don't be a keyboard warrior who complains about everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Draguns said: Not really. Just look at what happened today with the sound. My point was that rather than sitting at home listening to a stream, go out to a concert or two to judge. I went to concerts at MetLife and MSG. Both times he sounded fantastic. You can even hear it in the recording on YouTube as well. If he sounds consistently good or bad at a live concert that you have been to then you have a point. Otherwise don't be a keyboard warrior who complains about everything. I'm sorry but this is totally illogical haha. It doesn't matter if it's on YouTube or not I can still hear how he sounds. I get the going out and enjoying a concert part but when we're referring as to whether he sounds good or not you don't need to be there to hear it, recorded footage is more than enough. I don't see how wanting Axl to put some effort into his performances and actually improve is being a keyboard warrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, Draguns said: Did you even attend any GNR concerts in 2017 or did you watch it through YouTube? That's a cop out. The Forum gig in 2017 is Soundboard. And Axl sounded atrocious on all but maybe 6 songs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRmello77 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 45 minutes ago, SWINGTRADER said: Bullshit. Is Duff fat? Duff does a lot of sports everyday also more than the average man his age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlingrl03 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Frank Greiner-Mai @Greinus 2h2 hours ago More Die Akustik war schlecht. Man könnte zum Glück Slash hören aber von Axel nur jedes fünfte Wort. #gunsnroses #berlin #Olympiastadion Translated from German by Microsoft The acoustics were bad. One could fortunately hear slash but Axl only every fifth word. #gunsnroses #berlin #Olympiastadion Awful. Those sound tech guys need to be fuckin fired! Hey @LiveNationGSA! Where can I get my money for the @gunsnroses concert in Berlin again? Instead of music only unbearable noise on the ranks, the people have actually fled home, you have not even recognized the songs. #gnrberlin @gunsnroses #Oly_Berlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnrs1972 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I couldn't wait to hear Slither from GNR. Axl is an embarrassment to the GNR brand. He is always the weak link live. Great studio frontman. He supposedly has a great ear for music but if he can't tell he sucks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, gnfnrs1972 said: He supposedly has a great ear for music but if he can't tell he sucks.... Do you think Fernando would honestly tell him how bad he sounds? Every day of his life is "WOW GREAT - YOU'RE BETTER THAN EVER" He lives in Team Brazil's bubble of suck Edited June 4, 2018 by TheSeeker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelmi Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said: Did he really say he sucked and blew it? Do we have any videos of that? Yes he did. Before Slither and Used to love her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFGnR Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Patience outro was some of the weakest I ever heard, in Berlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 He is having major issues with his voice. He seemed to be struggling more than in RIR 2011. HOpefully it is not permanent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Bit worried about Download in less than a week, pro-shot will not be forgiving :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, Amir said: Bit worried about Download in less than a week, pro-shot will not be forgiving :/ Do they pro shoot the whole set or just highlights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnrcane Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 From the little bit I heard of Berlin, there was clearly something wrong. Either Axl was sick/getting over a sickness or there were issues with the IEMs or some combination. It wasn't just the Mickey of recent years. He wasn't able to do stuff that he was able to do a few months ago in his "vocal zone." He was skipping lines, his voice was failing to make sounds. If he actually told the audience that he sucks (which I'd like to see video of) then it is more evidence of something wrong. If his voice permanently went away, I don't think he'd comment on it. He'd pretend everything is normal and try to get through the leg of the tour. IEMs not working could definitely cause things to get that bad. Put on a pair of headphones and play a GNR song loud enough that you can't really hear your own voice. Then record yourself singing along. It will sound bad. Anybody who thinks Berlin sounded good is delusional. However, this isn't normal and not like what we've heard from Axl before. If this is permanent then he needs vocal chord surgery otherwise it is time to retire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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