Guns N' Roses & related STUDIO SESSIONS - a definitive collection of available info (?)

[SoulMonster]

1 hour ago, zombux said:

patched with Ten Percenter as real name for Tommy Demo #1 from Village sessions.

What’s the source for this? Beavan? 

[Twinaleblood]

11 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

What’s the source for this? Beavan? 

Rick's podcast, he recently went to see Tommy at a solo show and they talked

[LlamaRenegade]

3 minutes ago, Twinaleblood said:

Rick's podcast, he recently went to see Tommy at a solo show and they talked

Also worth noting that Rick says Tommy told him he wants to get Ten Percenter and Going Down back from GNR to release them as solo songs in the future

[Dean]

35 minutes ago, LlamaRenegade said:

Also worth noting that Rick says Tommy told him he wants to get Ten Percenter and Going Down back from GNR to release them as solo songs in the future

I'm all for that as it looks like it won't be on a Guns release any time soon - which is a shame, as it is deserving to be included on a GNR album. Great song and both versions we have are tremendous. Would love to hear a proper mixed and mastered version of the 2013 leak though as Axl sounds incredible.

[DTJ80]

4 minutes ago, Dean said:

I'm all for that as it looks like it won't be on a Guns release any time soon - which is a shame, as it is deserving to be included on a GNR album. Great song and both versions we have are tremendous. Would love to hear a proper mixed and mastered version of the 2013 leak though as Axl sounds incredible.

Yup - although the 2013 version is more than listenable if nothing else ever happens.

42 minutes ago, LlamaRenegade said:

Also worth noting that Rick says Tommy told him he wants to get Ten Percenter and Going Down back from GNR to release them as solo songs in the future

It’s seems to be accepted that Axl and Tommy were/are on good terms so will be interesting to see how this plays out.

[oneway23]

No reactions left, but, I agree with both.  Great song!

[Sosso]

12 hours ago, LlamaRenegade said:

Also worth noting that Rick says Tommy told him he wants to get Ten Percenter and Going Down back from GNR to release them as solo songs in the future

Those songs would have been perfect for the Village Gorilla Head album back in 2004.

[zombux]

12 hours ago, LlamaRenegade said:

Also worth noting that Rick says Tommy told him he wants to get Ten Percenter and Going Down back from GNR to release them as solo songs in the future

I admit this is not the most reliable source at all, might be still pulled from one's behind. but I decided to trust this for now.

[darkside259]

sailing was recorder in studio? 

[Dean]

1 hour ago, darkside259 said:

sailing was recorder in studio? 

We live in hope my friend.

[Pele]

25 minutes ago, Dean said:

We live in hope my friend.

I know you have the banner.

[Dean]

27 minutes ago, Pele said:

I know you have the banner.

It’s yours as soon as @donny confirms it’s ok for you to have it (he had first dibs on it for the museum he had in his outhouse for Sixx A.M. - he had an old portaloo next to it converted as a shrine to 2009/14 era Guns N’ Roses, hence his need for this banner).

[Mendez]

Was the Coma "DAT GNR Ruff with New Axl Vocal" ever circulated after all? All ive heard is the 22 second snippet 

Edited March 11, 2022 by Mendez

[Swedish]

On 7/5/2018 at 9:02 PM, zombux said:

 

Shadow Of Your Love	(uncirculated before AFD SDE)	(uncirculated before AFD SDE)	Appetite For Destruction SDE (rumored to be partly re-recorded by NITL lineup)

Sorry to bump a slightly inactive thread but I didn't know where to else put this.

I went down a rabbit hole this morning regarding the rumored re-recording of SOYL by the NITL lineup. From what I understand the main reasons that this seems to be a theory is that it differs quite a bit instrumentally (more lead guitar work, different sounding drums and so on) than the earlier studio versions of the song and if I don't remember incorrectly Adler also said that it wasn't a version he played on.

To get to the bottom with this I decided to check out live versions of SOYL that's from after the session with Mike Clink on the 23rd of November 1986. That being the date that the band supposedly recorded the version SOYL that got released with the AFD SDE. As far as we are aware SOYL was only played live twice by the AFD line up after this session with Clink, on the 21st of December 1986 at the Fender Ballroom and on the 22nd of June 1987 at the Marquee club. There is, sadly, no circulated recording of the show at the Fender Ballroom but there is however a rough audience recording of the Marquee show. This was then naturally the version of the song I decided to dive deeper into.

To me, there are obvious similarities between this early 1987 live recording of SOYL and the studio release we got in 2018. For example the Slash's lead run during the intro (0:41 on the studio version and not present on any other known version of the song before the Clink session) is clearly audible through the somewhat rough audience recording of the Marquee show. Adlers drumming on this live version is also a lot more similar to the drums on the Clink recording then they are to the earlier Sound City recordings for example. 

As for Adler saying he did not play on this version. I think has to do with him misremembering/not being aware that they recorded SOYL several times. It's not impossible to think that he compared the 2018 single with his playing on the version released as a B-side to the It's So Easy single and heard that they where not the same. A lot of time has passed and a lot of drugs have been consumed between November 1986 and 2018 so for him to not remember that session would not surprise me, and nobody can blame him for that either. Memory is sadly not as good of a source as we would like it to be.

I also think we can rule out Frank re-recording the drums for the 2018 SOYL single. A quick listen to a recent live version of SOYL with Frank compared to the studio version makes that obvious, especially when the Marquee version with Adler on drums is similar to the Clink recording.

So all in all, I have come to the conclusion that the the studio version of SOYL that got released in 2018 is, as advertised, a studio outtake with the AFD 5. It has been re-mixed in 2018 but I'm of the opinion, based on the sources we have from the time, that no re-recording has been done since 1986.

[31illusions]

On 3/17/2022 at 10:35 AM, youngswedishvinyl said:

To me, there are obvious similarities between this early 1987 live recording of SOYL and the studio release we got in 2018. For example the Slash's lead run during the intro (0:41 on the studio version and not present on any other known version of the song before the Clink session) is clearly audible through the somewhat rough audience recording of the Marquee show. Adlers drumming on this live version is also a lot more similar to the drums on the Clink recording then they are to the earlier Sound City recordings for example. 

As for Adler saying he did not play on this version. I think has to do with him misremembering/not being aware that they recorded SOYL several times. It's not impossible to think that he compared the 2018 single with his playing on the version released as a B-side to the It's So Easy single and heard that they where not the same. A lot of time has passed and a lot of drugs have been consumed between November 1986 and 2018 so for him to not remember that session would not surprise me, and nobody can blame him for that either. Memory is sadly not as good of a source as we would like it to be.

I also think we can rule out Frank re-recording the drums for the 2018 SOYL single. A quick listen to a recent live version of SOYL with Frank compared to the studio version makes that obvious, especially when the Marquee version with Adler on drums is similar to the Clink recording.

So all in all, I have come to the conclusion that the the studio version of SOYL that got released in 2018 is, as advertised, a studio outtake with the AFD 5. It has been re-mixed in 2018 but I'm of the opinion, based on the sources we have from the time, that no re-recording has been done since 1986.

I will respectfully disagree. I know Adler's drums like the back of my hand. Could it be him? Possibly? If his drums were pro-tooled to death. Axl has said in the past, he dislikes the old drum sound and thought it sounded dated. So why wouldn't he want it updated. I think It's debatable.

What about Slash's little licks before the verses? Do you have an example of him playing these licks prior? I don't. Thus it must be an addition to make it presentable for radio. That's my conclusion.

[Swedish]

1 hour ago, 31illusions said:

I will respectfully disagree. I know Adler's drums like the back of my hand. Could it be him? Possibly? If his drums were pro-tooled to death. Axl has said in the past, he dislikes the old drum sound and thought it sounded dated. So why wouldn't he want it updated. I think It's debatable.

What about Slash's little licks before the verses? Do you have an example of him playing these licks prior? I don't. Thus it must be an addition to make it presentable for radio. That's my conclusion.

I showed in my earlier post that the very lick you’re talking about was played live on the 22nd of June 1987.

[Voodoochild]

On 3/17/2022 at 1:35 PM, youngswedishvinyl said:

Sorry to bump a slightly inactive thread but I didn't know where to else put this.

I went down a rabbit hole this morning regarding the rumored re-recording of SOYL by the NITL lineup. From what I understand the main reasons that this seems to be a theory is that it differs quite a bit instrumentally (more lead guitar work, different sounding drums and so on) than the earlier studio versions of the song and if I don't remember incorrectly Adler also said that it wasn't a version he played on.

To get to the bottom with this I decided to check out live versions of SOYL that's from after the session with Mike Clink on the 23rd of November 1986. That being the date that the band supposedly recorded the version SOYL that got released with the AFD SDE. As far as we are aware SOYL was only played live twice by the AFD line up after this session with Clink, on the 21st of December 1986 at the Fender Ballroom and on the 22nd of June 1987 at the Marquee club. There is, sadly, no circulated recording of the show at the Fender Ballroom but there is however a rough audience recording of the Marquee show. This was then naturally the version of the song I decided to dive deeper into.

To me, there are obvious similarities between this early 1987 live recording of SOYL and the studio release we got in 2018. For example the Slash's lead run during the intro (0:41 on the studio version and not present on any other known version of the song before the Clink session) is clearly audible through the somewhat rough audience recording of the Marquee show. Adlers drumming on this live version is also a lot more similar to the drums on the Clink recording then they are to the earlier Sound City recordings for example. 

As for Adler saying he did not play on this version. I think has to do with him misremembering/not being aware that they recorded SOYL several times. It's not impossible to think that he compared the 2018 single with his playing on the version released as a B-side to the It's So Easy single and heard that they where not the same. A lot of time has passed and a lot of drugs have been consumed between November 1986 and 2018 so for him to not remember that session would not surprise me, and nobody can blame him for that either. Memory is sadly not as good of a source as we would like it to be.

I also think we can rule out Frank re-recording the drums for the 2018 SOYL single. A quick listen to a recent live version of SOYL with Frank compared to the studio version makes that obvious, especially when the Marquee version with Adler on drums is similar to the Clink recording.

So all in all, I have come to the conclusion that the the studio version of SOYL that got released in 2018 is, as advertised, a studio outtake with the AFD 5. It has been re-mixed in 2018 but I'm of the opinion, based on the sources we have from the time, that no re-recording has been done since 1986.

I think Slash rerecorded the guitars not only because of what he plays, but based on how it sounds. His tone and style didn't feel like what he was doing back in those days to me. I'm not talking about the riff or even any note in particular, but how it feels. 

I'm not sure about the drums. It could very well be a drum track reassembled with the snare sample of some of Steven recording with isolated reverb and different mix, which is something that people like Andy Wallace likes to do. That's why Steven didn't recognize his drumming - because it was different, but technically, it was him indeed. 

My conclusion is that there is stuff recorded from 1986, but overdubbed with either new layers or just samples for a more modern sound. Which is kinda odd, because when you listen to the AFD remastered and then this song, it totally sounds out of place sonically. And way louder and compressed, because that's what people like these days.

[Swedish]

7 hours ago, Voodoochild said:

My conclusion is that there is stuff recorded from 1986, but overdubbed with either new layers or just samples for a more modern sound. Which is kinda odd, because when you listen to the AFD remastered and then this song, it totally sounds out of place sonically. And way louder and compressed, because that's what people like these days.

I see your pov, however I think the sound difference has more to do with SOYL actually being re-mixed in 2018 while the rest of the album is simply remastered. 
That makes SOYL sound more modern than it actually is. I would say that’s probably why SOYL has the radio/commercial compression that we’re used to these days.

At the end of the day we also have to consider that this is GNR, they have a reputation for doing the bare minimum. It makes no sense for them to re-record parts of a song that are identical to what where already in the original recording. It would however make sense for them to let someone re-mix the track in a more commercial way.

Edited March 20, 2022 by youngswedishvinyl

[Twinaleblood]

5 hours ago, youngswedishvinyl said:

It makes no sense for them to re-record parts of a song that are identical to what where already in the original recording. It would however make sense for them to let someone re-mix the track in a more commercial way.

Fair enough, but if it was like that I think Frank would have simply confirmed "no rerecording" when directly asked in an interview. Instead, he just stuttered and mumbled, which is quite revealing in a way. That's possibly the biggest indication that some overdubs might have been recorded.

[Sosso]

50 minutes ago, Twinaleblood said:

Fair enough, but if it was like that I think Frank would have simply confirmed "no rerecording" when directly asked in an interview. Instead, he just stuttered and mumbled, which is quite revealing in a way. That's possibly the biggest indication that some overi dubs might have been recorded.

I always wondered if they kept Dizzy Reeds and Chris Pitmans parts on HS / Absurd. 

Edited March 20, 2022 by Sosso

[Voodoochild]

11 hours ago, youngswedishvinyl said:

I see your pov, however I think the sound difference has more to do with SOYL actually being re-mixed in 2018 while the rest of the album is simply remastered. 
That makes SOYL sound more modern than it actually is. I would say that’s probably why SOYL has the radio/commercial compression that we’re used to these days.

At the end of the day we also have to consider that this is GNR, they have a reputation for doing the bare minimum. It makes no sense for them to re-record parts of a song that are identical to what where already in the original recording. It would however make sense for them to let someone re-mix the track in a more commercial way.

I understand, but like I said, it's not just about the sound quality and/or mix. 

The reason for an overdub or just rerecording is simple: they weren't satisfied with the original. Either the sound quality or the performance. I get what you say about them being lazy, but that's just Axl, really. Everyone else would be more than glad to rerecord something just because it would be easy to tweak it. Added bonus is the convenience of recording everything in home studios and then bounce it back on an email to whoever needs it to mix the song. 

[zombux]

updated: added vocal re-recordings for SCOM (Big Daddy) and Live Era.

huge thanks to @Waemoth for his research over this and I'm copy&pasting his notes.

he also compared SCOM Big Daddy and Live Era versions with Paris 92 live version and confirmed that these both have newly re-recorded vocals and both of these are completely different.

*****

Live Era Revisited

The entirety of Li(v)e Era apart from It's Alright and Coma has been synched up to their original performance(s) and compared using Audacity, with Live Era as the left channel and the original performance(s) as the right channel. 
I have shared these combined tracks, as well as the Audacity files used to create them. There are also screenshots from Audacity which highlight what parts come from which UYI tour performance when this is applicable.
When studio overdubs are mentioned, it refers to overdubs done by Axl in the process of putting together Live Era in the late 1990's.
The timestamps given indicate which portion of the track is refered to. Next to the timestamp is the first phrase or the first few words in said portion. To the lyrics' right is a parenthesis which indicates the origin of the vocals.
The overdub percentage numbers are approximate and only refer to studio overdubs, not vocal overdubs from other shows.

Some of the crowd noise before and after tracks certainly isn't live since there's many occasions of them playing another song in the beginnings and ends of tracks on Live Era. 
Whether it comes from other parts of the same shows, or from other Guns N' Roses concerts, or somewhere else entirely is hard to say.
I do not think there are any instrumental overdubs made in the studio in the late 1990's. Slash claiming that "It's as honest as it gets" is still misleading, but it's possible that this was only said in regard to the instrumental parts.

It's unclear how and when the claims about which concert is the source for what song on sites like Spotify and Wikipedia originated. 
The latter cites: "https://www.slashparadise.com/discography/albums-guns-n-roses-1999-live-era.php." as its source.
These claims are not entirely correct. For Welcome To The Jungle it's very likely wrong as all instruments and vocals seem to line up with a combination of 1992-01-25 Las Vegas and 1992-02-20 Tokyo. 
The first half of Patience seems to come from 1993-04-24 rather than 1993-04-23 which Wikipedia incorrectly suggests.
With this in mind I think the claims made on the sources for It's Alright and Coma should be taken with a grain of salt, though I'd still consider the dates claimed to be the most likely.
If anyone is aware of which show the speech between Mr. Brownstone and It's So Easy comes, please let me know. It's possible that it comes from 1991-01-20 Rio like the first half of It's So Easy.

This is not complete, and should not be taken as absolute truth.

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Nightrain - Las Vegas 1992-01-25
   The vocals on this track are almost entirely studio overdubbed. 
   Overdubbed vocals: 97,7%
   McBob shouting "Vegas" before "You wanted the best..." has been cut.
   0:38-1:15 "Loaded like a freight train" (studio)
   1:16-1:17 "I can tell you honey you can m"(Las Vegas)
   1:18-5:16 "ake my money tonight" (studio)

Mr. Brownstone - London 1991-08-31
   The vocals on this track are almost entirely studio overdubbed. 
   Overdubbed vocals: 98,8%
   The backing vocals in the "I used to do a little" parts starting at 1:26 and 2:50 do not match the original backing vocals by Izzy. The replacement backing vocals are believed to be sang by Robin Finck.
   0:41-2:00 "I get up around seven" (studio)
   2:02      "Oh!" (London)
   2:40-3:23 "Now I get up around whenever" (studio)
   3:24      "Oh!" (London)
   3:28-3:58 "Leave me alo-one" (studio)
   4:04      "Oh!" (London)
   4:11-5:42 "Give me a little light" (unidentified 1990's show) (Rio?)

It's So Easy - Paris 1992-06-06 (Rio 1991-01-20)
   This track is a hybrid of two performances.
   Overdubbed vocals: 0%
   All instruments are from Paris.
   0:17-0:29 "I see your sister in a sunday dress" (Rio) this part of the recording of Rio is missing, but it sounds like the rest of the vocals from Rio.
   0:30-1:32 "Easy, everybody's trying" (Rio)
   1:34-1:35 "Fuck off!" (Paris)
   1:47-1:56 "You get nothing for nothing" (Rio)
   1:57-1:58 "And I'm bored" (Paris)
   2:00-2:34 "It's so easy, easy" (Rio)
   2:35-3:13 "But it goes to show" (Paris)

Welcome To The Jungle - Tokyo 1992-02-20 (Las Vegas 1992-01-25)
   This track is a hybrid of two performances as well as having extensive studio overdubs.
   Overdubbed vocals: 66,6%
   I believe the instruments are from both Las Vegas and Tokyo.
   Added guitar faintly in the first seconds.
   Vocals:
   0:03-0:47 (intro screams) (Las Vegas)
   0:55-1:17 "Welcome to the jungle" (studio)
   1:18-1:21 "Oh! I wanna watch you bleed!" (Tokyo)
   1:22-1:40 "Welcome to the jungle" (studio)
   1:41-2:17 "My, my, my serpentine (Tokyo)
   2:03-2:04 "Welcome to the jungle" (studio)
   2:05-2:11 "It gets worse here every day" (Tokyo)
   2:12-2:14 "You'll take it eventually" (studio)
   2:14-2:19 "You can have anything you want" (Tokyo)
   2:19-2:22 "Welcome to the jungle" (studio)
   2:23-2:49 "Shanaananaana knees, knees, oh!" (Tokyo)
   2:51-2:57 "Yeahayeahayeah no!" (studio)
   3:46-3:51 "You know where you are? You're in the jungle baby!" (Las Vegas)
   3:52-4:26 "You're gonna die!" (studio)
   Instruments:
   0:00-1:41 Las Vegas
   1:41-2:58 Tokyo - There's a shift in sound at 1:41, I think this marks the switch to Tokyo. The dissonant tone at 2:36 is not present in the recording of Las Vegas.
   2:58-5:08 Las Vegas - Weird mixing at 2:58, and the guitars match very well around 3:40. 

Dust N' Bones - Ritz 1991-05-16 (London 1991-08-31)
   This track is a hybrid of two performances.
   Overdubbed vocals: 0%
   All the instruments are from Ritz which is why the timing between the instruments and the vocals from London is incorrect.
   Izzy suddenly becomes louder at 4:18. This is because his vocals around this time, unlike Axl's vocals, are from Ritz rather than London. Presumably there was a small error made when putting together Live Era.
   0:05-1:56 "He lost his mind today" (Ritz)
   2:00-4:13 "Sometimes you women are so easy" (London)
   4:13-4:14 "That's alright" (Ritz)
   4:15-4:17 "Dust N' Bones, that's al" (London)
   4:17-4:18 "lright" (Ritz)
   4:18-4:20 "Dust N' Bones" (London)
   4:20-4:22 "That's alright" (Ritz)
   4:22-4:24 "Dust N' Bones" (London)
   4:24-4:25 "That's alright" (Ritz)
   4:25-4:27 "Dust N' Bones" (London)
   4:40-4:47 "Just Dust N' Bones" (Ritz)
   
My Michelle - London 1991-08-31
   The vocals on this track are almost entirely studio overdubbed. 
   Overdubbed vocals: 99,6%
   Wrong note by Izzy (?) at 1:30 is only audible on Live Era, the volume on his guitar is too low in the audience recordings to compare to. Since I doubt they'd do such a poor job on a potential overdub, I think 
   it's fair to assume that this mistake strongly suggests that they were unwiling to do instrumental overdubs.
   0:48-3:36 "Your daddy works in porno" (studio)
   3:39      "Michelle" (London)

You're Crazy - Tokyo 1988-12-10
   This vocals on this track are untouched. 
   Overdubbed vocals: 0%

Used To Love Her - Tokyo 1988-12-10
   Most of the vocals on this track are original.
   Overdubbed vocals: 23,4%
   0:55-3:07 "I used to love her" (Tokyo)
   3:22-3:55 "I used to love her" (studio)
   3:58      "That's all she wrote" (Tokyo)

Patience - Mexico City 1993-04-24 (acoustic part)*, Las Vegas 1992-01-25 (electric part)
   The vocals on this hybrid track are untouched. 
   Overdubbed vocals: 0%
   Being an audience recording of relatively poor quality, it's hard to say for certain that this is the correct show. I find it likely to be the correct show, and it definitely rules out any studio overdubs on this track.
   This song was made by combining the first part of an acoustic 1993 performance with the last part of an electric 1992 performance.
   0:50-03:22 "Shed a tear 'cause I'm missing you" (Mexico City)
   4:59-6:16 "Just a little patience, yeah, yeah" (Las Vegas) 
  
It's Alright - Houston 1992-09-04*
   Very likely to be original vocals.
   Overdubbed vocals: 0%
   No bootlegs or other known recordings of this show circulate publically.
   *Tagged as Houston 1992 in official releases.

November Rain - Tokyo 1992-02-22
   The vocals on this track have been completely overdubbed in the studio.
   Overdubbed vocals: 100%
   Axl saying Dizzy at 2:59 has been almost completely muted on Live Era. On the bootleg soundboard recording this is much more audible.
   
Coma - Omaha 1993-04-10*
   Very likely to be original vocals.
   Overdubbed vocals: 0%
   No bootlegs or other known recordings of this show circulate publically.
   *This is believed to be from Omaha 1993 because of three factors. 
   First, an audience recording claiming to be of this show sold on Ebay around 2010 had Coma as part of the track listing. 
   Second, Axl claims they haven't played Coma in "probably a year or so" in the beginning of this track which lines up well with the previous known performance being the one in Chicago (1992-04-09).
   Third, there's a local Omaha newspaper article from 1993 which mentions Coma being played there.

Out Ta Get Me - London 1987-06-28
   This vocals on this track are untouched. 
   Overdubbed vocals: 0%
   You can faintly hear Axl say "I'm gonna dedicate this, to the press, that don't like us" on Live Era. On the bootleg soundboard recording this is much more audible.

Pretty Tied Up - Tokyo 1992-02-22
   The vocals on this track have extensive studio overdubs.
   Overdubbed vocals: 86,5%
   Axl singing "She's the right one" repeatedly towards the end of the song has been cut entirely and not replaced.
   0:29-0:33 "The Perils Of Rock N' Roll Decadence" (Tokyo)
   0:56-2:05 "I know this chick" (studio)
   2:06      "But check it out" (Tokyo)
   2:08-3:20 "Pretty Tied Up" (studio)
   3:21      "Cool ranch dressing" (Tokyo)
   3:22-3:53 "Pretty Tied Up" (studio)
   4:47-5:11 "I can tell you a thing or two about something else" (Tokyo)
   
Yesterdays - Las Vegas 1992-01-25
   This vocals on this track are untouched.   
   Overdubbed vocals: 0%
   Talk before the song starts has been muted. The cheering after the song has been extended, whereas they actually started playing My Michelle very soon.

Move To The City - Tokyo 1992-02-22
   The vocals on this track are almost entirely studio overdubbed. 
   Overdubbed vocals: 97,7%
   Amusingly, even the band introduction was overdubbed.
   0:02-0:06 "This is from live like a suicide" (Tokyo)
   0:46-3:51 "You pack your bags" (studio)
   7:46-7:48 "Something something get a beer" (unidentified 1990's show)
    
You Could Be Mine - Tokyo 1992-02-22
   The vocals on this track have extensive studio overdubs.
   Overdubbed vocals: 41,6%
   Axl saying "Perhaps a little Arnold for you" in the beginning has been muted. Axl saying "You could be mine" at 5:16 has been muted.
   1:11-1:33 "I'm a cold heartbreaker fit to burn" (studio)
   1:34      "Oh!" (Tokyo)
   1:36-1:59 "Cause you could be mine" (studio)
   2:00      "Oh!" (Tokyo)
   2:13-2:35 "Holidays come and then they go" (studio)
   2:36      "Oh!" (Tokyo)
   2:37-3:12 "Cause you could be mine" (studio)
   3:14-3:26 "You could be mine" (Tokyo)
   3:26-3:46 "You've gone sketchin' too many times" (studio)
   3:47-5:35 "Another reason to cry" (Tokyo)

Rocket Queen - Las Vegas 1992-01-25
   The vocals on this track are almost entirely studio overdubbed. 
   Overdubbed vocals: 98,5%
   Parts of Slash's speech in the beginning is cut out. Adding this back in shifts everything by 34 seconds. Hence an additional timestamp is provided for these vocals to indicate timing that correlates to Live Era.
   2:05-2:39 "If I say I don't need anyone" (studio)             (1:31-2:05)
   2:43-2:46 "Oh! Smile!" (Las Vegas)                            (2:09-2:12)
   2:51-3:25 "I've seen everything imagineable" (studio)         (2:17-2:51)
   3:28-3:29 "Oh! Oh!" (Las Vegas)                               (2:54-2:55)
   5:57-6:17 "Here I am, and you're a Rocket Queen" (studio)     (5:23-5:43)
   6:18      "Oh!" (Las Vegas)                                   (5:44)
   6:55-8:50 "I see you standing" (studio)                       (6:21-8:16)
   8:52      "Yeah" (Las Vegas)                                  (8:18)

Sweet Child O' Mine - Paris 1992-06-06
   The vocals on this track have been completely overdubbed in the studio.
   Overdubbed vocals: 100%
   Bad Time intro has been muted but parts of it remain faintly audible in the beginning of the intro. 
   Axl's original vocals are faintly audible starting at 6:11 "Chi-ild, chi-ild…".

Knockin' On Heaven's Door - London 1992-04-20
   Only two words have been overdubbed.
   Overdubbed vocals: 0,9%
   At 1:33 Axl singing "Ooohh yeeahah, ooh yeah" has been muted, it remains faintly audible.
   0:37-5:04 "Mama take this badge from me" (London)
   5:05-5:06 "Heaven's door" (studio)
   5:06-7:13 "Wooaoaoawaoo ooooh yeah" (London)
   
Don't Cry - Tokyo 1992-02-22
   This vocals on this track are untouched.
   Overdubbed vocals: 0%

Estranged - Tokyo 1992-02-22
   The vocals on this track are almost entirely studio overdubbed. 
   Overdubbed vocals: 95,4%
   0:38-3:34 "When you're talking to yourself" (studio)
   3:36-3:39 "Alone! Oh!" (Tokyo)
   3:49-4:08 "So nobody ever told his baby" (studio)
   4:09-4:13 "Ladies and gentlemen, on the keyboards" (Tokyo)
   5:44-6:20 "When I find all of the reasons" (studio)
   6:49-6:52 "Well I jumped into the river" (Tokyo)
   6:52-7:38 "Too many times to make it home" (studio)
   7:38-7:44 "Ow! Ahhh (whistle)" (Tokyo)
   8:32-9:19 "I never found anyone to replace you" (studio)

Paradise City - Las Vegas 1992-01-25 (London 1992-04-20)
   This track is a hybrid of two performances. 
   Overdubbed vocals: 0%
   Mother intro cut.
   There are clear instances of instruments from Las Vegas under vocals from London, see odd note at 4:06 for an example. I think it's fair to assume the entire instrumental performance is from Las Vegas.
   The chorus vocals edited in from London are an absolute mess. 
   Axl singing "Take me down..." the second time in the first chorus (2nd time in the song) and "Won't ya take me home" the second time in the second chorus (4th time in the song) are used for every chorus.
   The only exception from this is the first chorus in which the original "Why won't ya" lines are used instead of the the first part of "Won't ya take me home" (4).
   Numbers after voicelines denote which time he sang it in the original performance. A 2 indicates the second time Axl sang a particular line. 
   These numbers are only present when the line is used in a different part of the track on Live Era than on the original performance.
   0:49-0:53 "Take me down…" 2 (London, incorrect line)
   0:54-0:55 "Why won't ya" (London)
   0:56-0:58 "Take me home" 4 (London, incorrect line)
   0:59-1:05 "Take me down… why won't ya" (London)
   1:06-1:08 " Take me home" 4 (London, incorrect line)
   1:08-2:10 "Look out! (Las Vegas)
   2:19-2:31 "Rags to riches or so they say" (London)
   2:31-2:47 "Take me down" 2, Won't ya take me home 4, Take me down 2 (London, incorrect line)
   2:47-2:51 "Won't ya take me home" 4 (London)
   3:01-3:13 "Strapped in the chair" (Las Vegas)
   3:14-3:28 "Take me down" 2, Won't ya take me home 4, Take me down 2 (London, incorrect line)
   3:29-4:02 "Won't ya take me home" (Las Vegas)
   4:03-4:12 "So far away, so far away" (London)
   4:13-4:25 "Captain America has been torn apart" (Las Vegas)
   4:26-4:44 "Take me down" 2, Won't ya take me home 4, Take me down 2, Won't ya take me home 4 (London, incorrect line)
   4:44      "Take it!" (Las Vegas)
   4:54-5:00 "Take me down" 2, Won't ya 4 (London, incorrect line)
   5:01-6:45 "Take me hooooomeeee" (Las Vegas)  

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November 2022 - Waemoth

[Gunner Gilby]

On 3/21/2022 at 3:02 AM, Sosso said:

I always wondered if they kept Dizzy Reeds and Chris Pitmans parts on HS / Absurd. 

I would imagine Melissa would've recorded some new parts. Dizzy's definitely on both tracks. 

[rumandraisin]

10 hours ago, Gunner Gilby said:

I would imagine Melissa would've recorded some new parts. Dizzy's definitely on both tracks. 

Pitman is on Absurd, if you compare the 2006 version with the finished mix he's in there. Probably some sub bass on Hard Skool. Melissa isn't in these tracks. 

[Gunner Gilby]

11 hours ago, rumandraisin said:

Pitman is on Absurd, if you compare the 2006 version with the finished mix he's in there. Probably some sub bass on Hard Skool. Melissa isn't in these tracks. 

I guess we can't be sure until we get an album and see the credits. Axl and Chris had a pretty big falling out. He'll get a co songwriting credit for Absurd. I wouldn't imagine that Axl let alone Duff n Slash would want his parts on any new album. Besides it wouldn't be difficult for Dizzy, Melissa or someone to replicate his parts.