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1 hour ago, RussTCB said:

I was late to the game on the Beta thing. I didn't see/hear about her comments until way late yesterday. 

Her comments are unbelievable, uncalled for and really make the band look bad. 

Beta randomly answered me on a comment from 15 hours or so prior on meegans Instagram. Found it kinda odd but also cool at the same time someone answered me

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3 minutes ago, oneway23 said:

Russ, I'm glad someone brought this up, because I've been thinking about that a lot this morning.  Fantastic album; honestly should have gotten infinitely more attention than it did.  For any fan of hard rock, please do yourself a favor and check it out.  I can put that on at any time over the past nine years, and it still blows me away.

 

That said, for me, the direct comparison doesn't hold, and, I'll tell you why:  For all the talk about Diamond Dave's vocals, brothaman re-recorded everything contemporaneously; he didn't use the vocal takes from the 1978 Gene Simmons demos.  In many cases, he wrote all new lyrics.  In other words, he put the damn work in.

Same for the band.  All fresh recordings, new arrangements, in some cases, and, most importantly, a few brand-new tunes sprinkled in.

Forget Absurd.  Gettin' heated all over again to blast that album...smokes!

 

Some of the best playing of Ed & Alex's career

I hear all of your points. You're totally right. It's a loose comparison on my part but I think it holds to a certain extent. 

However, I obviously couldn't agree with you more on what a monster album aDKoT is. It's just a huge, huge album that deserves more attention. Like you said, some of Ed & Al's best playing ever 

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There's something deliciously ironic about some the original guys re-uniting, only to re-record a dated industrial rock tune that is exactly the style of tune that caused them to all abandon ship all that time ago.

You KNOW how petty and vindictive Axl can be.  Bet he's sittin' there with a sh*t-eating grin thinking, "Got 'ya!"

Axl playing the long con, y'all...He finally won! :awesomeface:

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1 hour ago, Gold top 78 said:

This just highlights how amateur TB are as a management team. The first big and positive step GNR have taken by releasing a song and adding positivity among fans and beta goes and shows why the previous years before it were a shambles. 

Axy Waxy's Mommy is online defending his feewings from those dirty meanies! :bitchfight:

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2 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

I hear all of your points. You're totally right. It's a loose comparison on my part but I think it holds to a certain extent. 

However, I obviously couldn't agree with you more on what a monster album aDKoT is. It's just a huge, huge album that deserves more attention. Like you said, some of Ed & Al's best playing ever 

If gnr come out with an album as good as A different kind of truth my mind will explode. I'm hoping this is a tattoo scenario and that the rest of the songs are absolute killers🤞 I even grew to liking Tattoo over the years🤣 it took years though, so sorry Beta / Absurd it's gonna take time

https://www.loudersound.com/features/our-first-reaction-to-the-new-guns-n-roses-single-absuyad

This review is astonishing 

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3 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

I hear all of your points. You're totally right. It's a loose comparison on my part but I think it holds to a certain extent. 

However, I obviously couldn't agree with you more on what a monster album aDKoT is. It's just a huge, huge album that deserves more attention. Like you said, some of Ed & Al's best playing ever 

 

Personally I would not want new vocals from Axl on these old songs. His voice is not as good 20 years later than it was in the late 90's or early 2000's. I haven't listened to the Van Halen album you guys are discussing, but the idea of a much older David Lee Roth doing new vocals does not sound good to me...especially if he already had "prime" vocals recorded back in the day. 

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2 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

Hey, at least she didn't tell you that the world would be a lot better place without you in it like she did to some other guy. All because he pointed out facts regarding the songs lineage lol

She said that to someone who claimed Axl used autotune and I wouldn't be surprised if it was a response to more things that guy has said. 

Still, Beta shouldn't bother to respond to shit posts and trolls. 

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4 minutes ago, oneway23 said:

There's something deliciously ironic about some the original guys re-uniting, only to re-record a dated industrial rock tune that is exactly the style of tune that caused them to all abandon ship all that time ago.

You KNOW how petty and vindictive Axl can be.  Bet he's sittin' there with a sh*t-eating grin thinking, "Got 'ya!"

Axl playing the long con, y'all...He finally won! :awesomeface:

that is also why I consider it a joke release, or maybe more specifically an "insider joke" (he even said that in the live show before they played it first).

and also as a funny joke towards the diehard fans of classic GNR - they universally hate anything which doesn't have Slash on it (just because it doesn't have Slash on it and doesn't sound like 80's hair metal), so they just went out with the most different/weird/modern sounding song they had, while it has Slash prominently playing all over it and the song itself is more or less meh.

if this is not a successfully executed trolling maneuver towards some bitter oldschool fans, then I don't know what else. me personally, I had a really good laugh over this and got amused :D

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3 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

She said that to someone who claimed Axl used autotune and I wouldn't be surprised if it was a response to more things that guy has said. 

Still, Beta shouldn't bother to respond to shit posts and trolls. 

While I agree that there are some shit posts and trolls for sure, she seemed to go off the rails on anyone who has negative things to say. 

It's totally OK for people to not like this song just like it's OK for people to love it. Different strokes. 

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1 minute ago, Tom2112 said:

If gnr come out with an album as good as A different kind of truth my mind will explode. I'm hoping this is a tattoo scenario and that the rest of the songs are absolute killers🤞 I even grew to liking Tattoo over the years🤣 it took years though, so sorry Beta / Absurd it's gonna take time

https://www.loudersound.com/features/our-first-reaction-to-the-new-guns-n-roses-single-absuyad

This review is astonishing 

Yes, Tom!  We've got another fan here....Tattoo was a grower for me, too.  Having said that, I'll always contend that Blood & Fire was the absolute PERFECT lead single (Band history in the song, "Look at all of the people"...bit, "Told 'ya I was comin' back:, etc.).  In my alternate universe, that song gets released, and VH rockets back into general prominence.  Ah, well...

 

To swing it back to GN'R, yes, let's hope they've got the goods to deliver a stunner.

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3 minutes ago, zombux said:

that is also why I consider it a joke release, or maybe more specifically an "insider joke" (he even said that in the live show before they played it first).

and also as a funny joke towards the diehard fans of classic GNR - they universally hate anything which doesn't have Slash on it (just because it doesn't have Slash on it and doesn't sound like 80's hair metal), so they just went out with the most different/weird/modern sounding song they had, while it has Slash prominently playing all over it and the song itself is more or less meh.

if this is not a successfully executed trolling maneuver towards some bitter oldschool fans, then I don't know what else. me personally, I had a really good laugh over this and got amused :D

 

I think it's hilarious. The word "ABSURD" is a pretty good description for how a lot of GN'R fans might feel about this song. The word "ABSURD" is also a pretty accurate description of the GN'R saga the last 25 years. Slash & Duff recording on a very industrial sounding track when they quit the band in the first place because they didn't agree with Axl's industrial preferences...ABSURD!!!

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17 minutes ago, Beto 22 said:

Didn't Axl said something about Jimmy Iovine telling the songs and the album needed more work and that comment jeopardized the confidence he had on the album?

Yes, he said something like that in 2001 (without mentioning Iovine's name), but it doesn't mean that he submitted a finished album and the label sent it back:

Axl: And the record companies also kept wanting to help to make the record better, and so every time we'd think we would have the right songs or the record, then somebody would say that – you  know, someone would think that we could maybe make it better, and so then we would start over again. So we kept collecting songs, and kept recording and recording...

https://www.a-4-d.com/t3079-2001-01-22-rock-pop-fm-argentina-interview-with-axl

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3 minutes ago, oneway23 said:

Yes, Tom!  We've got another fan here....Tattoo was a grower for me, too.  Having said that, I'll always contend that Blood & Fire was the absolute PERFECT lead single (Band history in the song, "Look at all of the people"...bit, "Told 'ya I was comin' back:, etc.).  In my alternate universe, that song gets released, and VH rockets back into general prominence.  Ah, well...

 

To swing it back to GN'R, yes, let's hope they've got the goods to deliver a stunner.

For me it's Big River and you and your blues. But blood and fire was such a kick in the head of a song! Amazing. Bullethead, China Town... relentless!

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1 minute ago, GNRfan2008 said:

 

I think it's hilarious. The word "ABSURD" is a pretty good description for how a lot of GN'R fans might feel about this song. The word "ABSURD" is also a pretty accurate description of the GN'R saga the last 25 years. Slash & Duff recording on a very industrial sounding track when they quit the band in the first place because they didn't agree with Axl's industrial preferences...ABSURD!!!

Neither quit primarily over the direction of music. 

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2 minutes ago, GNRfan2008 said:

 

I think it's hilarious. The word "ABSURD" is a pretty good description for how a lot of GN'R fans might feel about this song. The word "ABSURD" is also a pretty accurate description of the GN'R saga the last 25 years. Slash & Duff recording on a very industrial sounding track when they quit the band in the first place because they didn't agree with Axl's industrial preferences...ABSURD!!!

Gotta say that, that was the funniest part of the whole thing. Slash is gonna have to amend his book.

I don't know if Duff was as opposed to the industrial direction seen as he stayed up to 1997

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3 minutes ago, zombux said:

that is also why I consider it a joke release, or maybe more specifically an "insider joke" (he even said that in the live show before they played it first).

and also as a funny joke towards the diehard fans of classic GNR - they universally hate anything which doesn't have Slash on it (just because it doesn't have Slash on it and doesn't sound like 80's hair metal), so they just went out with the most different/weird/modern sounding song they had, while it has Slash prominently playing all over it and the song itself is more or less meh.

if this is not a successfully executed trolling maneuver towards some bitter oldschool fans, then I don't know what else. me personally, I had a really good laugh over this and got amused :D

zombux, you're one of the people I've enjoyed conversing with on here over the years when I pop around now & again, and I'm really grateful for the effort you've put into organizing info for the fanbase, but, brother, you just won the non-existent award for creative writing with this one here! LOL

 

Not saying Axl isn't a sociopath-level thinker capable of pulling something like this off, but, if he actually did?  Yowza!

Like you said, thanks for the laugh, bubba.  That would be some next-level, tin foil Alex Jones right there.  HAHA  Too much

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Lol can’t believe they released Silkworms. So many memories. 
 

How they came to this decision… who fuckin knows… just another crazy chapter in the batshit insane novel of gnr. The general public will tear this song to shreds.

 

let it be known that I submitted this definition of silkworms to urban dictionary back in the olden days. 
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=silkworm&amp=true&defid=2222554

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

Neither quit primarily over the direction of music. 

 

It was a major factor in the tension that existed. Axl didn't like Slash's old school classic rock ideas. Slash & Duff didn't like Axl's industrial ideas. Throw in Axl's dictatorial behavior and the implosion makes a ton of sense. 

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2 hours ago, GoodOlJohnnyK said:

The song's a bit repetitive but, overall, I like it. For every accusation that this is a Prodigy ripoff, to me it sounds pretty much like what Guns N' Roses would sound like in 2021. This band was always only half of a 'classic blues based rock' band - the other half was *always* punk inspired, and this is that side of the band. If you really listen to it, in both sound and spirit, this song is a descendant of It's So Easy.

Fans complaining about what should and should not be the first single of a potential new album is ridiculous - we're not marketing executives for a record label. Who *cares* what would make a good first single or where it falls on the charts? All of that shit only matters to people in the music industry.

And never did I expect to read Guns N' Roses fans dissecting Axl Rose's lyrics for hints of misogyny or complaining that they aren't politically correct enough for the times. Axl Rose! Which band have you *been listening to* all these years? Shouting about a parasitic, syphilitic priestess baby with a pussy full of maggots sticks out so much because, honestly, there are a lot of bands who wouldn't even *dare* say that type of shit in today's climate. That's a certain type of ballsy, 'fuck you' swagger that I love from this band.

So to recap:

1. Mean, aggressive sounding punk tune? Check.

2. Axl ranting without a care in the world? Check.

3. Slash shredding away? Check.

I love it. Hard School is a bit too bland compared to this one. I'm an Absurd fan.

Lots of GnR fans I take it that are now older have really "woke" up .. lol

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Just now, GNRfan2008 said:

 

It was a major factor in the tension that existed. Axl didn't like Slash's old school classic rock ideas. Slash & Duff didn't like Axl's industrial ideas. Throw in Axl's dictatorial behavior and the implosion makes a ton of sense. 

Difference of opinion re: the band's direction was one of many reasons cited by Slash, and there is probably some truth to that although I wouldn't call it the main reason. He was at odds with Axl for many reasons at the time and found Snakepit to be an alluring "escape".

As for Duff, it wasn't a big issue at all. He quit because the band didn't go anywhere at the time and because it had changed too much. 

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5 minutes ago, GNRfan2008 said:

It was a major factor in the tension that existed. Axl didn't like Slash's old school classic rock ideas. Slash & Duff didn't like Axl's industrial ideas. Throw in Axl's dictatorial behavior and the implosion makes a ton of sense. 

That Axl wanted to go to an industrial direction in the mid 90s is not a fact, but an assumption that doesn't have much factual basis. It's not supported by the sources of the time.

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I think it is a pretty smart decision to release Absurd as first single, of course not everyone will like it but everyone will think wtf is this and it will create a buzz. It shows that they are willing try different styles and not just try to make a new nighttrain etc. I guess we will get songs that are closer to what they have done in the past to please the fans.

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4 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

For me it's Big River and you and your blues. But blood and fire was such a kick in the head of a song! Amazing. Bullethead, China Town... relentless!

I promise I'll stop gushing over this one, but, one more F yeah post for your picks, too! LOL  

Big River has that HUGE rhythm section that's reminiscent of Runnin' With..., IMO.  Just grooves like a mug

You & Your Blues - One of my absolute favorites on an album full of absolute slammers.  Gets me every time.  The bridge is...mwaaahh!

China Town - God, relentless!  Prog-Metal meltdown! Aliens playing on this one.

Bullethead - What a freight train of a cracker this one is.  The first one they went back to when reconvening for the album.  Great!

 

OK, I'm done, me swears!

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2 hours ago, James Bond said:

The Pitman Incident

Or a synth driven album written entirely by Melissa called Reese's Pieces.

GN'R releasing a synth driven album with Slash is not even unrealistic with songs like that in his discography. 

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