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22 hours ago, moreblack said:

Part of GNR's entire schtick is the sense of going off the rails at any time. Bucket didn't have that. There was not one dangerous bone in that guy's body. He could play a lot of notes, but if there's no struggle there's no intensity, then what's the point?

GN'R hasn't been that band in more than thirty years.

2 hours ago, Gackt said:

Ashba's level of talent is not even being worthy of tuning Bucket's guitar.

Seriously, Ashba doesn't know how to tune a guitar.

Man alive...that's absolutely shiteous!

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7 minutes ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

Not sure where I heard or read this but Axl said Buckethead played on CD while watching porn which Axl didn't like at all, so all his guitar parts had to be re-done. I never thought he fit GNR either. He was too damn weird. Glad Axl got rid of him.

That was Tom Zutaut,

 

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6 minutes ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

Not sure where I heard or read this but Axl said Buckethead played on CD while watching porn which Axl didn't like at all, so all his guitar parts had to be re-done. I never thought he fit GNR either. He was too damn weird. Glad Axl got rid of him.

people can change but always found it funny that the guy who was responsible for the fucking on Rocket Queen had an issue with Bucket watching porn while recording. 

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3 hours ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

Glad Axl got rid of him.

Yeah, cause that went well for him.  He sure showed him.

Buckethead featured heavily on the album that eventually came out.  The only song written after he left was Scraped (by far the worst song on the record).

Buckethead got the credits without having to pretend he was in a real band after 2003.

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On 2/16/2022 at 7:18 AM, Gackt said:

Ashba's level of talent is not even being worthy of tuning Bucket's guitar.

Seriously, Ashba doesn't know how to tune a guitar.

 

P-Sticks is a better guitarist than Ashba. And he can tune a guitar like no one. 
 

This video is so cringey….

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On 2/16/2022 at 6:18 AM, Gackt said:

Ashba's level of talent is not even being worthy of tuning Bucket's guitar.

Seriously, Ashba doesn't know how to tune a guitar.

TBF at that Axl's Band level none of those guys tune their own guitars, they got people to do it for them. But DJ must've pissed someone off to get handed a guitar like that.

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3 hours ago, Pele said:

Yeah, cause that went well for him.  He sure showed him.

Buckethead featured heavily on the album that eventually came out.  The only song written after he left was Scraped (by far the worst song on the record).

Buckethead got the credits without having to pretend he was in a real band after 2003.

Are you sure Scraped was written after he left?  He plays the solo at the end of the song.

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10 hours ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

Not sure where I heard or read this but Axl said Buckethead played on CD while watching porn which Axl didn't like at all, so all his guitar parts had to be re-done. I never thought he fit GNR either. He was too damn weird. Glad Axl got rid of him.

It's less that Axl got rid of him than Buckethead wanting to leave the band himself. Axl was frustrated by it at the time but a few years later had good things to say about him. I always wonder if they play that show in 2004 if Buckethead stays. 

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12 hours ago, mystery said:

It's less that Axl got rid of him than Buckethead wanting to leave the band himself. Axl was frustrated by it at the time but a few years later had good things to say about him. I always wonder if they play that show in 2004 if Buckethead stays. 

Axl tried at the very last minute to bring Bucket back in 2006. I believe this is one of the reason that they didn't say who was gonna replace him prior to the first Hamerstein show - of course, we now know that there was a huge drama behind Bumblefoot joining the gig AFTER the band had already worked out the Robin/Richard arrangements and technical stuff.

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6 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

Axl tried at the very last minute to bring Bucket back in 2006. I believe this is one of the reason that they didn't say who was gonna replace him prior to the first Hamerstein show - of course, we now know that there was a huge drama behind Bumblefoot joining the gig AFTER the band had already worked out the Robin/Richard arrangements and technical stuff.

I believe this to be accurate. 

I don't have screenshots for proof, so, take it or leave it, I guess, but, the mod on the Bucketheadland forum (who definitely had direct access to at least people around Bucket, if maybe not the man directly) made it clear that there were at least overtures made, possibly a direct contractual offer, in an effort to get him to return before the Hammerstein run.

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1 hour ago, oneway23 said:

I believe this to be accurate. 

I don't have screenshots for proof, so, take it or leave it, I guess, but, the mod on the Bucketheadland forum (who definitely had direct access to at least people around Bucket, if maybe not the man directly) made it clear that there were at least overtures made, possibly a direct contractual offer, in an effort to get him to return before the Hammerstein run.

Do you know what his response was? A flat "No"? "Probably not, but here's my list of demands"? Pink Floyd made offers to Roger Waters to return in the mid-90's after their split and his response was a laughing "No thanks".

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Probably for the best for Buckethead that he turned the offer down. I don't think much changes if he rejoins in terms of getting Chinese Democracy out or working on further music. The only thing that really changes is more touring in 2006-2007. I'm surprised how long Buckethead lasted in the first place. Axl made overtures in late 1999, and he joined in March 2000 until it was announced he had left in March 2004. 

Here's a quote by Del James from Chinese Whispers about wanting Buckethead back in 2006.

"Prior to the European tour... the band was hoping that Buckethead would come back and made very effort to make that happen... When it was apparent that Bucket would not be re-joining, the band had to move forward... Auditions were held in Los Angeles, but the band did not find the right guy to replace Buckethead." (Del James, GunsNRoses.com, 10/31/06)

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10 minutes ago, SOH said:

Do you know what his response was? A flat "No"? "Probably not, but here's my list of demands"? Pink Floyd made offers to Roger Waters to return in the mid-90's after their split and his response was a laughing "No thanks".

Didn't really elaborate or follow-up.  Just said something vague like, "Thinking about GN'R makes him sad these days."  Most of the people on that forum weren't exactly heartbroken when he left, anyway.

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1 hour ago, oneway23 said:

I believe this to be accurate. 

I don't have screenshots for proof, so, take it or leave it, I guess, but, the mod on the Bucketheadland forum (who definitely had direct access to at least people around Bucket, if maybe not the man directly) made it clear that there were at least overtures made, possibly a direct contractual offer, in an effort to get him to return before the Hammerstein run.

I remember something about that too, but not that I actually read the BH forum at that time. Didn't Axl himself said something about that on the forum chat? 

As far as I know, the whole public backlash (Axl's letter after the RIR-Lisbon cancelation) made everything worse, but the fact is that their relationship wasn't good by that time because of the lack of communication, proper work and even the work ethics behind the band members and management.

32 minutes ago, oneway23 said:

Most of the people on that forum weren't exactly heartbroken when he left, anyway.

Yeah, they kinda hate GNR. 

It's like his superfans who can actually shred just like him on YouTube. They can play the most insane stuff, but they didn't even attempt to try something else besides TWAT. I know because when I recorded Better including Bucket's stuff (even though I had some shortcuts), it was like the only video on YouTube to actually attempt to do everything he did.

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