Gordon Comstock Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Heather14 said: If the quick intro earlier was recently recorded, wouldn't it be Axl's first media appearance in a long time? I'm sure the "this is Duff McKagan/Slash/Axl Rose" intro are from 2016, maybe 2017 at the latest. I heard those intro's in the months leading up to shows in Vancouver and Seattle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozydogg Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Anyone else wish the last 3 notes of the solo repeated again, with the last note changing to a resolution note? The way the solo ends now, it leaves me hanging for that resolution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ak1nney said: Is that the demo we've heard or the legit new version? I wouldn't know. The demo was from 2000 and contained different vocal tracks, guitars, bass and drums. So no, it is not the demo. What was played on radio just now is the final version of the song, and presumably completely identical to the version that TouchTune had access to and accidentally debuted a few days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumandraisin Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Skamos66 said: Imagine the delay and why we didn't get it all summer was Axl finally sending in that "Hi it's Axl Rose" clip XD That's why he was in the studio in London. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson87 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, kozydogg said: Anyone else wish the last 3 notes of the solo repeated again, with the last note changing to a resolution note? The way the solo ends now, it leaves me hanging for that resolution. It builds tension for the piano to come back in, imo. I don't think it would work as well if it resolved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyVinyard Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 What sucks is that if and when the General comes out, we'll get the busted Slash version and may never get to hear the epic Robin version. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnrjanus Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Wanna bet they will pull this. Typical gnr release again. Haha. Iheart. No streaming or yt yet Still a leak i suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablo9333 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Listening to the recording again, and comparing it to the Village leak, I feel a little weird about the solo. On one hand, I think Robin Finck's solo was more interesting, but I still prefer the overall sound of Slash's solo. It fits the song more imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DannyVinyard said: What sucks is that if and when the General comes out, we'll get the busted Slash version and may never get to hear the epic Robin version. I like Slash's version much more personally. I never thought there was anything that noteworthy about Robin's version let alone anything epic about it lol what specifically about Robin's solo do you like? Any particular melodic motifs or note choices that catch your ear? Edited August 17, 2023 by WhazUp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Yeah, I’m on board with Slash’s solo. I prefer it. Love Finck though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Riggs Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, WhazUp said: Yeah I quite like what he did with it. To me it is funny, people complain about Slash playing too fast live, but when he slows down the playing and does more long sustained melodic lines they complain too lol To me the solo is fine and it fits for sure. And I like the added production element of the double tracking Yeah I really liked the guitar sustain (or whatever you call it) at the end leading into the piano coming back. That was cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top-Hatted One Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, lame ass security said: Axl's vocals sound like the dude from Spacehog. Not a fan of the whiny vocals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 The drums and bass are awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozydogg Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, WhazUp said: Personally I actually quite like it ending on that double stop bend, ending on that F# chord which is the dominant chord going back to the tonic which the piano hits when it comes back in with B minor, the tonic of the key at the top of the intro/verse progression No idea what you're talking about since I'm not a musician lol. But, I'll take your word for it. Maybe it will grow on me, but I felt I wasn't getting that satisfactory resolution at the end. On another note, I'm almost positive Axl just tacked on a little extra scream to the "aloonneeeeeee" at the end of the song. Pretty certain it is the original "alone" from the demo with the little added scream at the end cut/pasted in. Definitely wouldn't be the first time he's pasted in vocals to an existing vocal line (end of ChiDem, Rhiad, etc.). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Can we all hold hands and sing “Kumbaya” yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrain7 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Is that Slash using a voice box after the solo, mimicking Axls oooohhhhs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillConnor_1982 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: The demo was from 2000 and contained different vocal tracks, guitars, bass and drums. So no, it is not the demo. What was played on radio just now is the final version of the song, and presumably completely identical to the version that TouchTune had access to and accidentally debuted a few days ago. And basically identical to the 2000 demo. This song did not receive a major overhaul. If you heard the demo you've basically heard the finished version. 23 years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitchisback Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Live Like a Suicide said: The drums and bass are awesome. Yeah agreed. Duff really stood out and I thought he sounded awesome. Really great bass line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyVinyard Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, WhazUp said: I like Slash's version much more personally. I never thought there was anything that noteworthy about Robin's version let alone anything epic about it lol what specifically about Robin's solo do you like? Robin's solo flows with the song perfectly. The tone and everything about it. The song is only 4 minutes long, so not really meant to be epic. The General, if it's the sequel to Estranged, then I imagine it will be an epic 7+ minute song with some epic guitar solos included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ak1nney Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 It must be weird to help write a song musically, be really excited about it, then see it released 20 years later with others taking some of the credit Oh well, looking forward to it being released in a more high quality way to really be able to fully enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonGuns Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, BillConnor_1982 said: And basically identical to the 2000 demo. This song did not receive a major overhaul. If you heard the demo you've basically heard the finished version. 23 years! The new version is essentially identical in structure with some bits re-recorded and some additional production tricks. They could have actually reworked it a bit. The solo seems to arrive very quickly in the song after only one chorus, so restructuring the song slightly, having a second chorus, then a build up into a more epic longer solo, then a longer outro… could have worked. But would make it a 5 min song not single friendly. Many of the CD era songs has bizarre structures (TWAT, Atlas, Catcher) and this fits in that group for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Riggs Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, DannyVinyard said: What sucks is that if and when the General comes out, we'll get the busted Slash version and may never get to hear the epic Robin version. How many songs has Robin played on in the studio for NIN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillConnor_1982 said: And basically identical to the 2000 demo. This song did not receive a major overhaul. If you heard the demo you've basically heard the finished version. 23 years! Yes, the song is the same as far as structure and most of the arrangements. I think the biggest changes to me is Slash's lead guitar under neath the verses, the new vocal track in the chorus, the new drums (which are better), and I hear the bass better now. It is also mixed much better, gives it a lot more punch, and the vocals lie very neatly in the mix. I wish the lead guitar was a bit more prominent in the verses, but all in all they did a really good job with this. I was never that fond of the demo from the Villa version, I felt the chorus was a clusterfuck, but this version, especially how the new chorus sounds, is something I will likely play a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozydogg Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 The solo reminds me of Slash's solo on The Last Fight for some reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyVinyard Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Martin Riggs said: How many songs has Robin played on in the studio for NIN? IDK. I just know his work in GNR is fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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