ChristmasFnatic Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 I have been reading the shows are not sold out recently, so just wondering, will an AFD reunion suddenly sell out arenas and stadiums? Or people(other than us crazies) don't know or care enough about Izzy and Adler? Sorry if this topic has been discussed before, Perhaps mods can delete this thread if so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanMILO Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 As everything, only if properly advertised. Perhaps would have been a shitty release like HS and Absurd if it wasn't because of the learnt mistakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAxlMorrison Posted August 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2023 I doubt it. Nobody cares really, except like you said, the handful of crazies stuck in 1990. 9 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gordon Comstock Posted August 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2023 No, and I'm surprised some people still think an AFD5 tour is some kind of ace up their sleeve. The reunion that the general public cared about was always just Axl and Slash. Bringing back more classic members wouldn't make much of a difference in a stadium setting. It would never, ever recapture what they did 30+ years ago. They wouldn't be doing the legacy justice, it would be their most blatant cash-grab attempt. I would probably actually lose respect for Izzy and Steven if they came back now. And there's a very good chance that Richard, Dizzy and Melissa would remain in the band anyway. 16 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChristmasFnatic Posted August 26, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: It would never, ever recapture what they did 30+ years ago. They wouldn't be doing the legacy justice, it would be their most blatant cash-grab attempt. I would probably actually lose respect for Izzy and Steven if they came back now. And there's a very good chance that Richard, Dizzy and Melissa would remain in the band anyway. Poor Frank. 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DTV88 Posted August 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2023 I’m not sure Steven could pull off a full tour, but having the 5 musicians that created AFD and Lies on a stage together again would bring closure to a lot of us older fans 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post History2010 Posted August 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) Axl and Slash are the only members the general public cares about. Duff is an added bonus but his presence alone doesn't sell additional tickets. All of those people in the crowd would still be there if it was Tommy Stinson playing with Axl and Slash. Adler and Izzy would increase interest among the hardcore fans but the general public already thinks Fotus is Izzy. I had an argument with a fellow student at my college because he told me that he saw the "original lineup" of GN'R in 2016, I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the audience at the shows also believe they are seeing the "original lineup" Edited August 26, 2023 by History2010 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamsapple Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 AFD5 reunion wont boost ticket sales, reasonable ticket prices and a decent new album with proper promotion will. But then they will likely not make up to 4 million dollars per show, so it's probably not going to happen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post janrichmond Posted August 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2023 I don't think it'd make any difference to the general audience numbers. I love the AFD 5 but it's too late now, they're older and we're older. I've never seen GNR with Steven and tbh I doubt if I'd go to see them again with or without him. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gilby Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Axl, Slash and to a degree Duff are really all most casual fans and ticket buyers know and care about. Hell cos he's been there for 33 years straight probably more people know Dizzy than Izzy n Steven. I have no doubt that if they did marketed it right it might sell a few more tickets in the short term. I don't see it happening tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History2010 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, adamsapple said: AFD5 reunion wont boost ticket sales, reasonable ticket prices and a decent new album with proper promotion will. Seconded. If they are really worried about ticket sales then lower the prices and you'll see the venues filled to capacity. There's a lot of potential ticket buyers who take one look at the prices and change their mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Gordon Comstock said: No, and I'm surprised some people still think an AFD5 tour is some kind of ace up their sleeve. The reunion that the general public cared about was always just Axl and Slash. Bringing back more classic members wouldn't make much of a difference in a stadium setting. It would never, ever recapture what they did 30+ years ago. They wouldn't be doing the legacy justice, it would be their most blatant cash-grab attempt. I would probably actually lose respect for Izzy and Steven if they came back now. And there's a very good chance that Richard, Dizzy and Melissa would remain in the band anyway. The NITL tour is effectively the reunion for a lot of people because let's face it, for them Guns N' Roses has always been Axl and Slash. It would generate some buzz but I feel like it would have only been huge after the initial few years of the NITL tour and not after 7 years of seeing Axl, Slash, and to a lesser extent Duff. If they marketed a limited tour where they played Appetite for Destruction in its entirety along with UYI songs I could see it hooking older fans who could care less about Chinese Democracy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, mystery said: The NITL tour is effectively the reunion for a lot of people because let's face it, for them Guns N' Roses has always been Axl and Slash. It would generate some buzz but I feel like it would have only been huge after the initial few years of the NITL tour and not after 7 years of seeing Axl, Slash, and to a lesser extent Duff. If they marketed a limited tour where they played Appetite for Destruction in its entirety along with UYI songs I could see it hooking older fans who could care less about Chinese Democracy. If they did a one-off farewell show, it could be huge. Like GNR's version of Celebration Day. But for a few more years of stadium/arena tours, the lineup doesn't really matter aside from Axl and Slash. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felixGNR Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 no, the only thing that would put more butts in the seats are lower ticket prices and proper promotion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Nope. Maybe like 3 extra sold tickets…literally. Bon Jovi reuniting with Sambora would be a jolt, not sure who else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 I am sure it would draw out maybe quite a few people who have always liked GNR and known a thing or two about them, but in terms of filling up these huge venues compared to now, I am not sure. For the vast majority of folks there I doubt they even are aware that Richard Fortus isn't Izzy lol and will only notice the drummer when he is on the big screen for 2 seconds after Axl introduced him during the band introductions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost un the jungle Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said: The reunion that the general public cared about was always just Axl and Slash. Bringing back more classic members wouldn't make much of a difference in a stadium setting. This! only hardcore fans know Steven and Izzy. At this point they wouldn't make a difference audience wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 minute ago, lost un the jungle said: This! only hardcore fans know Steven and Izzy. At this point they wouldn't make a difference audience wise Axl wasn't hounded for years by Izzy and Steven questions and chants like he was with Slash. I do think its a shame that they likely will never play live again but its remarkable that all 5 members of the classic lineup are still alive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost un the jungle Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, mystery said: Axl wasn't hounded for years by Izzy and Steven questions and chants like he was with Slash. I do think its a shame that they likely will never play live again but its remarkable that all 5 members of the classic lineup are still alive. at this point a full reunion makes no sense. The only thing that will not happen but can be valid is bringing Izzy back for a new album. But, if they are still releasing old ass material from 1999, I see almost impossible that new songs can be written. To the meme "all I can offer is another year of touring" I would add "all I can offer is another SCOM with Carrie" or "all I can offer is another CD B-side" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugworth Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said: The reunion that the general public cared about was always just Axl and Slash. Bringing back more classic members wouldn't make much of a difference in a stadium setting. It would help in the early stages simply because of all the media attention it would initially receive. After that, same as it ever was. Full blown reunions simply aren't required in today's culture. People just want something that looks like the real thing, go to a show, hear a few hits, hold their cell phones, take some selfies, and that's it. A majority of the crowd think Ace and Peter are on stage with KISS even though they haven't been there in 20+ years. Foreigner is essentially a tribute band now using the name. Nobody cares. They still get to hear Hot Blooded and Waiting For A Girl Like You. Many Skid Row fans don't know Baz isn't in the band until the show is underway, and some of them probably still think it's him. List goes on and on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trin9498 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) What percent of the audience these days know it’s “Axl” and not “Axel”? 60/40? Edited August 27, 2023 by Trin9498 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) Wouldn’t make a difference, it’s the top hatted one and Axl that people associate with GnR. Not to mention if they did some sort of AFD reunion, Axl would really need to pull his shit together vocal wise. personally I’d love to see it. Maybe like a 30 date run accross the USA. Do a Blu ray of it with a lot of behind the scenes stuff, then bundle it with the perfect crime doco. slash said that the main reason he made contact with Axl pre reunion was to do with all the UYI footage, which should have been released with the box set IMO, so odds are that stuff is buried forever, I can’t imagine looking at that footage 30 years later would be easy for any of them. Edited August 27, 2023 by megaguns1982 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) It would not make a difference to the sales. The people that would go, would go regardless, and the ones who wouldn't go, aren't gonna be swayed by the old rhythm guitar and the dude from celebrity rehab. Edited August 27, 2023 by moreblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsnchalupas Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Wait, the second guitar player isn't the guy from AFD? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted August 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, gunsnchalupas said: Wait, the second guitar player isn't the guy from AFD? That's what the photographer at Glastonbury and Getty Images will say when they find out. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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