JimiRose Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 When is this book officially coming out? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 This book skips over so much stuff. He literally crunched 1992-1997 into just a couple of chapters. It was interesting to see him talk about The Shadow Company tho! That whole phase of GnR doesn’t get talked about too often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Scream of the Butterfly said: She didn't say anything negative about Axl, though. It was all praise for Axl while she did her best to depict Stephanie as a horrible person. is logic she didn't nothing negative about Axl, he is she "boss", i just refer she is enough indiscreet about his private life , when own Axl is very private person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 the state of this band is truly laughable 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream of the Butterfly Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 24 minutes ago, Ratam said: is logic she didn't nothing negative about Axl, he is she "boss", i just refer she is enough indiscreet about his private life , when own Axl is very private person. I'd assume she had Axl's permission. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reayj2003 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) Not a great book in comparison to Duff’s. Matt comes across as a pretty shallow person. Slash & Duff picked him to be in Guns N’Roses..there must of been lots of drummers to choose from so I think that in itself deserves some respect. He gives no compliments to the drummer he replaced, Steven. Not sure what makes him think he’s above Dizzy to be honest. I can see why he’s not in the band now & to put it all on Duff isn’t fair...he must know that the person who is calling the shots is Axl. Getting on Metallica’s plane (while in the cult) and deserting his own band pretty much sums up Matt. Frank in comparison comes into the crowd to watch the support acts before gigs. Edited June 8, 2020 by reayj2003 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_0013 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 hours ago, GnR Chris said: Only stopping to say he co-write all the songs then demanded Slash remove him from the album. Why did he was removed from the album ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 minute ago, LA_0013 said: Where can I pay to download a copy? Seems quite a few of you have read the book I believe it leaked, no official/legal download available. Just gotta find it the naughty way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamwolff11 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 I pre-ordered the Kindle version and it was sent to me the day it was supposed to come out. I downloaded it then, and although they then changed the date, I have it and that's what I've shared in some of my updates. I'm not sure if you can find versions elsewhere. Feel free to PM if you have any ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 hours ago, PatrickS77 said: Yep. But actually it also was Glen who played on the first album. So it was Glen's gig all along, Matt just jumped in for that first tour. He only plays drums on 5 songs on the record, then there's guests on the others. And it's Duff and Matt on As Bad As I Am which was added as a bonus track on the deluxe version of the record. So Glen didn't play the entire album. 1 hour ago, JimiRose said: When is this book officially coming out? Never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gokken Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 So how would I do to get the book? I would love to read this! Is it to late to get the digital version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said: He only plays drums on 5 songs on the record, then there's guests on the others. And it's Duff and Matt on As Bad As I Am which was added as a bonus track on the deluxe version of the record. So Glen didn't play the entire album. Never Yes. But Matt played zero. And Glen is the Drummer when they don't have guests. As bad as I am was added after the fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loke212 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, gokken said: So how would I do to get the book? I would love to read this! Is it to late to get the digital version? Yeah, seconding this question, I'd really like to read the book now as well. (I've searched, but my usual sources for stuff like that are failing me.) Edited June 8, 2020 by loke212 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackxl Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Funny how Matt mentions how dumb Slash and Duff are, also how they don't shower etc. I read somewhere Slash got busted not flushing or wiping back in the day at a recording studio?!!? ROFL I remember in the early days he broke a neck on a guitar just cutting the strings off all at the same time when changing them and a tech had to show him how to do it properly. In the year in the life Metallica videos he admits he doesn't even know how to turn on his amps. Crazy times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superloconoriega Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 "i'm not saying they were dumb... but they were dumb" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homefuck Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 50 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said: Never So I've read a lot of people claiming that the release of the book has been cancelled. I've tried to find more source by googling, to no avail. How do you know that the release has been cancelled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homefuck Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 BTW, I've just read that the book was co-written by two swedes. One of them (Martin Svensson) was a famous bubblegum pop singer in sweden during the late 90's- early 00's. A little bit of trivia for y'all. Link to his most famous song (if you're interested): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Homefuck said: So I've read a lot of people claiming that the release of the book has been cancelled. I've tried to find more source by googling, to no avail. How do you know that the release has been cancelled? A rock journalist, Matt Wake, tweeted it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 hours ago, CAFC Nick said: Are you referring to him meeting with Axl in 2006? For anyone not familiar, here is the story: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/matt-sorum-hangs-out-with-axl-rose-in-new-york-city/ Reason I ask is because in 06 Matt said he hadn’t seen Axl for 6 years, so quite intrigued to know what happened when they met in 2000! Hadn’t heard any info on that before. IIRC they ran into each other in a bathroom or something at a hotel and it didn't go as well as the later meeting did. This was right around the time Live Era came out and I think they got into it over that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_school_gnr_fan Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 2 hours ago, KeyserSoze said: the state of this band is truly laughable It is. To think just four years ago, we looked at Duff and Slash's return as sort of a rebirth of the classic Guns N' Roses. Unfortunate that Alan Niven is not the manager of this band in 2020. He's the only guy that forced them to work. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoop Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 35 minutes ago, Homefuck said: So I've read a lot of people claiming that the release of the book has been cancelled. I've tried to find more source by googling, to no avail. How do you know that the release has been cancelled? It was removed from the publisher's website. cached version https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:P0feC3ONgO4J:https://www.chicagoreviewpress.com/double-talkin--jive-products-9781641601542.php+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us current version https://www.chicagoreviewpress.com/double-talkin--jive-products-9781641601542.php 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Matt should write a new book called Triple Talkin’ Jive, where he rants about his last book being canceled! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurielWeathers Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Drexl said: The Evil Empire and the Schutzstaffel. That's why Axl believed these two wanted to kill him in a previous life. Oh Lord, I still can't believe he thought all that was true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loke212 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 8 hours ago, Creed said: In general, don't get in a relationship with girls that aint funny. Its pointless, if you cant laugh with your girl. And Steph was definately not a funny person. Yeah, she seems like the exact opposite of "fun". Definitely doesn't strike me as someone you could have a good laugh or even a decent conversation with. 7 hours ago, Ratam said: I find disgusting that Beta talk about the Axl's and Seymour relationships in such poor taste. She seem my neighboring of the next door. She isn't seem be management of an great band. 7 hours ago, Blackstar said: Yeah, she did those interviews in Brazil and Axl may not have known what she said exactly (although some of them were translated into English and posted on GnR fansites). This one was with an online women's magazine in Brazil. I didn't know that. It was a long time ago, but I still remember reading these translated interviews with Beta (and also Fernando I think) because it was the first time I felt a bit weirded out by TB. The way they talked about Axl sort of made it sound like they were talking about a child rather than their boss (might have had something to do with the translations I read though). And man, I'm glad for Axl if Beta and family can provide him with the family atmosphere and affection that had been lacking in his life, but these interviews still struck me as somewhat strange, enough that I wasn't even sure if they were real. Always kind of suspected they were made up, but good to know there is at least some kind of source for these (or at least that specific interview), thanks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, loke212 said: I didn't know that. It was a long time ago, but I still remember reading these translated interviews with Beta (and also Fernando I think) because it was the first time I felt a bit weirded out by TB. The way they talked about Axl sort of made it sound like they were talking about a child rather than their boss (might have had something to do with the translations I read though). And man, I'm glad for Axl if Beta and family can provide him with the family atmosphere and affection that had been lacking in his life, but these interviews still struck me as somewhat strange, enough that I wasn't even sure if they were real. Always kind of suspected they were made up, but good to know there is at least some kind of source for these (or at least that specific interview), thanks. Yeah, I'd seen these translated interviews posted on various places without a reference to a source (e.g. a magazine) or an exact date, and I saw that other fans, like you, questioned their authenticity (and I could see why). Then, as I was collecting articles for our huge GnR database at a-4-d.com (https://www.a-4-d.com/t2861-interview-and-article-index ), I tried to find the sources of these interviews and dug into Brazilian sources, and finally I found the sources and the original interviews in Portuguese (except for the Fernando interview where I couldn't find the Portuguese text but I found the source) and re-translated them here with the help of google (I think the first one wasn't translated - I haven't seen it circulating): https://www.a-4-d.com/t4741-2001-01-16-o-globo-interview-with-doug-goldstein-and-beta-lebeis https://www.a-4-d.com/t4758-2001-01-22-bolsa-de-mulher-interview-with-beta-lebeis https://www.a-4-d.com/t4692-2001-07-01-o-estado-de-s-paulo-interview-with-beta-lebeis (Btw, proofreading of the translations by Portuguese speakers would be appreciated ) EDIT: On topic, in the second interview Beta says "The drummer was drunk" which makes some sense now with what Matt wrote in his book about his last days in GnR. Edited June 8, 2020 by Blackstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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