koldbeer2 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: Quite a lot different. Also you can prepare and stabilize your voice at any age, it would take considerable work and training though. If Axl wanted he could go work with a vocal coach for a few months learn essentially how to sing again and learn how to Mai Tai his upper register, bring back (some of) the body he'x lost from his voice and sing with his trademark rasp without killing himself. He does need to be taking bigger breaks between shows though. 2 in a row is a bad idea for a band playing over 1.5hrs each night. Gnr do 3.5hrs a lot of the time... It's not a great plan! I literally don't think he can use that classic rasp anymore, not without straining so hard he blows it out. Its gone, RIP. You can't stablise something that left the building already. His high clean vocals are there still but has been steadily getting more thin and slowly the top end has been getting more ropey. His voice just has wear and tear, and no amount of training is going to make his voice suddenly back to even 2016 levels. Each tour seems to make it that little bit more ropey, especially at the start and he is having to strain so hard to reach higher notes. Rather than just hoping one day it will come back (and spoilers, at age 60 wear and tear doesn't improve) it would be much wiser for Axl to take a different approach, particularly outside the hits. Sure use his higher voice for the classic hits that all the casuals expect as best as he can and save it for those moments (Jungle scream, high SCOM sections, etc) Edited July 3, 2022 by koldbeer2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Shit, I need to train harder to get the elasticity back in my meniscus and reverse the arthrosis in my knees. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyWoodRose84 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Maybe Yoda can conjure the spirit of Ron Anderson from beyond the grave to help Axl repair his voice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 16 hours ago, Blackstar said: It seems the anxiety was caused by his vocal issues. It was before last night's show, actually, according to the article. I took him staying over as a sarcastic remark Journalists medical experts now? All he said was he was having vocal issues on top of technical difficulties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: Quite a lot different. Also you can prepare and stabilize your voice at any age, it would take considerable work and training though. If Axl wanted he could go work with a vocal coach for a few months learn essentially how to sing again and learn how to Mai Tai his upper register, bring back (some of) the body he'x lost from his voice and sing with his trademark rasp without killing himself. He does need to be taking bigger breaks between shows though. 2 in a row is a bad idea for a band playing over 1.5hrs each night. Gnr do 3.5hrs a lot of the time... It's not a great plan! Yep. Pretty much this (he should have been doing this anyway, seeing as he's being paid millions to sing). I don't expect him to do it though, so I think he will eventually just have to adapt his lower voice to the songs. 41 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: Edited July 3, 2022 by Jw224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Axl_morris said: I took him staying over as a sarcastic remark Journalists medical experts now? All he said was he was having vocal issues on top of technical difficulties. Didn't sound sarcastic to me . I think he was literal about sleeping there. The article was published before Axl made the comment. They cited a "well-placed source". Edited July 3, 2022 by Blackstar 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Also I'd say if you think he's been sounding the same level recently as he has been the past few years then I'd say you haven't been listening. Shows of this tour have been quite dire even compared to the bad performances before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post janrichmond Posted July 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2022 Axl sleeping at the venue conjures up images of him snoozing in a camp bed and sleeping bag. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, janrichmond said: Axl sleeping at the venue conjures up images of him snoozing in a camp bed and sleeping bag. It's a really weird one, though. Why would he want to do that? I think I understand anxiety at some level but that's an odd outcome of it to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post koldbeer2 Posted July 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: It's a really weird one, though. Why would he want to do that? I think I understand anxiety at some level but that's an odd outcome of it to me. My guess is if he left the stadium he worried he might not be able to face doing a 2nd day there, especially if he knew his voice was on the ropes and felt like he was going to let all those fans down. Its much easier to go an event and do the job when you are already at the place to begin with, less risk of running away from it and not performing. We know Axl has had issues with stage anxiety in the past. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cineater Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, janrichmond said: Axl sleeping at the venue conjures up images of him snoozing in a camp bed and sleeping bag. Had the same thoughts. Back of the limo would be better. Maybe they brought in an RV. How did that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 1 minute ago, SoulMonster said: It's a really weird one, though. Why would he want to do that? I think I understand anxiety at some level but that's an odd outcome of it to me. It's Spurs homeground! Who wouldn't want to stay there? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, cineater said: Had the same thoughts. Back of the limo would be better. Maybe they brought in an RV. How did that work? I believe they have some suites for VIP guests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, janrichmond said: It's Spurs homeground! Who wouldn't want to stay there? I need an angry emoji for this On another note, that Spurs N’ Roses shirt is the biggest travesty I have ever seen 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Axl_morris Posted July 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2022 I heard axl stayed in the spurs trophy room because there was a lot of empty space to accommodate him 2 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickzark Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Get well soon Axl . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcanyon Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, Axl_morris said: I heard axl stayed in the spurs trophy room because there was a lot of empty space to accommodate him that's the best thing i've heard all day thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Politania Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 16 hours ago, Blackstar said: But how do we know that he doesn't prepare? I mean, we know that he doesn't rehearse much - although in the recent years he has rehearsed more than he used to. But he does do vocal exercises, warm-ups and warm-downs. I don't think Duff would make that up. I'm also sure that even if he didn't work with Ron Anderson systematically, he consulted him here and there. From the videos I've watched on this tour it's clear to me that he's been trying really hard with what he has; it's just not there anymore. out of likes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 2 hours ago, janrichmond said: Axl sleeping at the venue conjures up images of him snoozing in a camp bed and sleeping bag. His dressing rooms have had a bed in them before, I'm sure I've read that somewhere. Seeing as they took over the stadium for 2 days I think that's the most likely option. Maybe his dressing room full of his own stuff feels more homely and comforting than a hotel room? Plus what others said about it feeling mentally less taxing to stay put than go back and forth through London traffic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Politania Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, alfierose said: His dressing rooms have had a bed in them before, I'm sure I've read that somewhere. Seeing as they took over the stadium for 2 days I think that's the most likely option. Maybe his dressing room full of his own stuff feels more homely and comforting than a hotel room? Plus what others said about it feeling mentally less taxing to stay put than go back and forth through London traffic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Voodoochild Posted July 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2022 No expert here, but I do have vocal lessons and A LOT of experience in anxiety. To be able to sing in high pitch in a safe way you need to relax your vocal fold and have tons of air control on your chest muscles and diaphragm. Try to have both while having an anxiety panic knowing that thousands of fans paid to be there to watch you. Don't think it has anything to do with him losing his high pitch voice, albeit it's more than normal to have deterioration with his age. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Politania Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Voodoochild said: No expert here, but I do have vocal lessons and A LOT of experience in anxiety. To be able to sing in high pitch in a safe way you need to relax your vocal fold and have tons of air control on your chest muscles and diaphragm. Try to have both while having an anxiety panic knowing that thousands of fans paid to be there to watch you. Don't think it has anything to do with him losing his high pitch voice, albeit it's more than normal to have deterioration with his age. thanks for writing this! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 3 hours ago, HollyWoodRose84 said: Maybe Yoda can conjure the spirit of Ron Anderson from beyond the grave to help Axl repair his voice. Yoda is dead too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gordon Comstock Posted July 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ratam said: Yoda is dead too. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUCOULDBEMINE. Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 I expected this to happen between 2011 and 2014 or after the touring with AC/DC. Is it really that much worse now? I have not been checking the recent performances because I figured it'd be more of what we got in recent years. Hope he gets over it, anxiety attacks are no joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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