Tom2112 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 12 hours ago, Free Bird said: Well, congratulations. If that’s the definition of hit, then it’s even worse that Axl had only one single hit in the past 30 years… doesn’t affect the idea of my initial post. I don't like having to do all this research, but it's great when it proves you to be even more off base. Going one further, Perhaps charted on billboard no 24. Hardskool was no 9. Better was no 18 These are all billboard chart positions which is all you count. There was also only 1 official single from Chinese too (this might not be accurate but that's what it says). Anyway... I'm not defending Axls lack of output. Just saying your initial post wasn't really accurate. 14 hours ago, DannyVinyard said: Who chose the singles for Chinese Democracy? Was it Axl or the record company? I'm thinking record company since they forced the album out and zero support from Axl. Whoever chose the singles didn't do the album justice. The megahit that should have been is There Was a Time, which IMO is the best song on the album and one of the best songs of all time. How this epic song was not released as a single baffles me. It's so much better than the title track. Imagine the traction it would have gained (along with the album) if Axl released TWAT as first single along with epic UYI style music video. Street of Dreams would have been a hit, maybe megahit, too. Oh well, two amazing songs that nobody knows about. I don't think there was a megahit on Chinese. But the right push behind Better, Chinese and they could have done a bit more than they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 1 hour ago, Tom2112 said: I don't like having to do all this research, but it's great when it proves you to be even more off base. Going one further, Perhaps charted on billboard no 24. Hardskool was no 9. Better was no 18 These are all billboard chart positions which is all you count. There was also only 1 official single from Chinese too (this might not be accurate but that's what it says). Anyway... I'm not defending Axls lack of output. Just saying your initial post wasn't really accurate. I don't think there was a megahit on Chinese. But the right push behind Better, Chinese and they could have done a bit more than they did. I still disagree that one of these songs can be considered a hit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 The title cut was a bad choice for the first single for the 2008 album. Better, IMO was the obvious best choice. TWAT, while amazing, doesn't strike me as radio friendly. My second favorite song off that album is This I Love, which I also don't think is radio friendly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalis Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 19 hours ago, Sweersa said: The title cut was a bad choice for the first single for the 2008 album. Better, IMO was the obvious best choice. TWAT, while amazing, doesn't strike me as radio friendly. My second favorite song off that album is This I Love, which I also don't think is radio friendly. IRS would have done fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 What happened to that fist fight that was going to happen? @JimiRose, do you remember? I'm keen to see it. This summer hopefully? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 6 hours ago, Lethalis said: IRS would have done fine. While it's one of my least favorite tracks on the 2008 album, I would say it's radio friendly. My ex-girlfriend also liked IRS. (And she didn't really care for Axl's voice) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiRose Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 14 hours ago, allwaystired said: What happened to that fist fight that was going to happen? @JimiRose, do you remember? I'm keen to see it. This summer hopefully? I can't remember who that was with, I think we came to an amicable agreement, but hell it'd give me something to train for, gym motivation is always tough! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 On 3/31/2024 at 11:12 AM, JimiRose said: I can't remember who that was with, I think we came to an amicable agreement, but hell it'd give me something to train for, gym motivation is always tough! Went to see Slash this week and me and a friend were discussing it and how much fun it would be! Sadly I can't remember who it was either...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appetitefordiscussion Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 3/29/2024 at 3:33 PM, Sweersa said: The title cut was a bad choice for the first single for the 2008 album. Better, IMO was the obvious best choice. TWAT, while amazing, doesn't strike me as radio friendly. My second favorite song off that album is This I Love, which I also don't think is radio friendly. I think if TWAT was cut down for a radio version similar to the length of the demo version, it would’ve done great 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Appetitefordiscussion said: I think if TWAT was cut down for a radio version similar to the length of the demo version, it would’ve done great I agree. In fact I remember playing TWAT (one of the early demos, with Buckethead solo) and the repeating intro beat in the beginning pulls you in. They really fucked up and overdid the intro to the album version, and even in later leaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 On 3/30/2024 at 7:33 AM, Sweersa said: The title cut was a bad choice for the first single for the 2008 album. Better, IMO was the obvious best choice. TWAT, while amazing, doesn't strike me as radio friendly. My second favorite song off that album is This I Love, which I also don't think is radio friendly. If you judge by current streams This I Love would have been the best first single. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jamillos Posted April 3 Popular Post Share Posted April 3 IMO Better would have been the best single music-wise. IF it had a video released, IF there had been a promotion, and IF there had been an immediate tour. Of course, none of that happened. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 5 hours ago, vloors said: If you judge by current streams This I Love would have been the best first single. I don't think streams and radio are a apples to apples comparison. I agree with most that Better would have been the best lead single. It's catchy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litti Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 On 2/8/2024 at 9:58 PM, gavgnr said: I see your stockings and raise you pantyhose Wasn't she a CIA asset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTV88 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 8 hours ago, jamillos said: IMO Better would have been the best single music-wise. IF it had a video released, IF there had been a promotion, and IF there had been an immediate tour. Of course, none of that happened. The way I see it, “What If” has been the story of GnR since Lies 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 16 hours ago, DTV88 said: The way I see it, “What If” has been the story of GnR since Lies What about the Illusions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTV88 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 5 hours ago, El Guapo said: What about the Illusions? Steven was fired, changing the sound Axl took over some production duties and added a bunch of worthless overdubs Izzy left during the tour 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Voodoochild Posted April 4 Popular Post Share Posted April 4 This thread is going so bad that people didn't even had any jokes on April 1st. 2 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon87 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, Voodoochild said: This thread is going so bad that people didn't even had any jokes on April 1st. True. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAFC Nick Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 19 hours ago, Voodoochild said: This thread is going so bad that people didn't even had any jokes on April 1st. Wonder if the release of ‘The General’ was closure for a lot of people? Certainly felt that way for me, especially with the ‘Monsters’ leak, feels like this part of my life has got that closure. Anything from here on out is a bonus but I no longer have any expectations or clamour. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 56 minutes ago, CAFC Nick said: Wonder if the release of ‘The General’ was closure for a lot of people? Certainly felt that way for me, especially with the ‘Monsters’ leak, feels like this part of my life has got that closure. Anything from here on out is a bonus but I no longer have any expectations or clamour. Nah because what we thought was The General was Monsters all along, and a lot of the hype was connected with the particular tune, whether the initial quality or the later cool remix. So until "Monsters" gets released... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabrph5 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 32 minutes ago, jamillos said: Nah because what we thought was The General was Monsters all along, and a lot of the hype was connected with the particular tune, whether the initial quality or the later cool remix. So until "Monsters" gets released... Thats the one I want too. its 10 times better IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 The one thing The General did for me is that I really don't care anymore about anything related to the Chinese leftovers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illusion1987 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) 10 hours ago, CAFC Nick said: Wonder if the release of ‘The General’ was closure for a lot of people? Certainly felt that way for me, especially with the ‘Monsters’ leak, feels like this part of my life has got that closure. Anything from here on out is a bonus but I no longer have any expectations or clamour. I think we all realize that, wirh these 4 singles, Guns N Roses is officially dead as a band that purs out quality music. 2 of the 4 songs are embarrassingly bad. Also, the band has been ruinited since 2016- 8 YEARS and there isn't even a hint of the reunited group creating a single song. Put a fork in them...they are DONE! Those 4 songs was their funeral procrssion Edited April 6 by Illusion1987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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