The "New Album" Thread . The maybe, possibly, at some point, soon, whenever, wtf Axl thread🤞

[CubanSkies Dummy]

Thyme is a finished song. Instrumental and short. I think Beltrami did a good work on that, I really believe that.

On the other hand, you say "State Of Grace" is unfinished.  And you said the same for The General

[Pele]

1 minute ago, CubanSkies Dummy said:

Thyme is a finished song. Instrumental and short. I think Beltrami did a good work on that, I really believe that.

On the other hand, you say "State Of Grace" is unfinished.  And you said the same for The General

Yes, I believe the work on State of Grace probably stopped, so all they are left with is that incomplete, 90% finished effort with most of it done and some lines with mumbled placeholders.

I don't know about The General.  All we have is one guy at a party who says he heard it, and some unlistenable audio that Evader tried to make something of.

How do we know it's The General?  I can't remember if the guy said it was introduced as so.

Some believe it's a re-worked State of Grace.  I'm not sure.

[SoulMonster]

*yawn*

[smokingarthur]

I believe that when this thread reaches 1000 pages we will have some more news regarding the possibility of any new forthcoming material. 

[Gordon Comstock]

19 minutes ago, Pele said:

How do we know it's The General?  I can't remember if the guy said it was introduced as so.

 

The orchestral intro music that was played before shows in 2006-10 was confirmed as being The General, and you can hear that part of the song in the cellphone recording.

I still think it's funny you think the lyrics in State Of Grace are placeholders just because you can't understand them.

Do the SOG vocals sound like a final take? No. But the lyrics are complete, and it honestly wouldn't even surprise me if Axl considered those vocals "done".

[Pele]

10 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

The orchestral intro music that was played before shows in 2006-10 was confirmed as being The General, and you can hear that part of the song in the cellphone recording.

I still think it's funny you think the lyrics in State Of Grace are placeholders just because you can't understand them.

Do the SOG vocals sound like a final take? No. But the lyrics are complete, and it honestly wouldn't even surprise me if Axl considered those vocals "done".

If you think those mumbled vocals are final take, that's up to you.

Yes, you may be able to make out words - but it's clear enough it's 'scratch' vocal at times.

I doubt Axl (or anyone whose heard them) considers them 'done' - but I'd be less surprised in him releasing them like that than actually re-doing them! 

[DurhamGirl]

I think these two people have been sent here (guess who they are) to distract everyone from the possibility of there being nothing at all planned except another Absurd and Hardschool next year.

[Popcorn crew]

It is long way to the page 1000 if you wanna go on.

[Pele]

2 minutes ago, DurhamGirl said:

I think these two people have been sent here (guess who they are) to distract everyone from the possibility of there being nothing at all planned except another Absurd and Hardschool next year.

Well I specifically think the most likely next 'new' release is a mirror image of this year - with the 'double single' being Atlas and Perhaps.

[Gordon Comstock]

37 minutes ago, Pele said:

If you think those mumbled vocals are final take, that's up to you.

Yes, you may be able to make out words - but it's clear enough it's 'scratch' vocal at times.

I doubt Axl (or anyone whose heard them) considers them 'done' - but I'd be less surprised in him releasing them like that than actually re-doing them! 

 

I don't think that take is good enough to release, but it wouldn't exactly be surprising if it were released like that. For all we know, "Rose" re-recorded the second half of the song in 06-07. We have no idea.

[Pele]

2 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

I don't think that take is good enough to release, but it wouldn't exactly be surprising if it were released like that. For all we know, "Rose" re-recorded the second half of the song in 06-07. We have no idea.

 

2 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

I don't think that take is good enough to release, but it wouldn't exactly be surprising if it were released like that. For all we know, "Rose" re-recorded the second half of the song in 06-07. We have no idea.

It's a possibility, and one I'm hopeful for as it's one of the rare occasions he's actually nailed it with a 'new' song.

[CubanSkies Dummy]

I don't know, man.

For me, is simple. 14 finished songs and release it with Slash and Duff overdubs. And ready to go.

[Coma16]

Rose couldn't even be arsed enough to finish the vocals for Absurd or Hardsckool. If SOG comes out, we've 100% already heard the final vocals.

[WhazUp]

I just am hoping for at least 1 song where Axl and Slash bounced ideas off each other and the band recorded it all within the same session.  Guns N' Roses is too awesome to have their discog since 2008 be just random sessions from random years all cut and pasted together

[Pele]

1 hour ago, Coma16 said:

Rose couldn't even be arsed enough to finish the vocals for Absurd or Hardsckool. If SOG comes out, we've 100% already heard the final vocals.

Difference here is the vocals for HardSchool and Absurd are usable.

I've no issue with using those vocals.  I just believe he picked those songs because they are 2 of 4 he has left.  2 are utterly dreadful (Absurd and Atlas,) so I believe he's 'pairing them with the better ones (HardSchool/Perhaps).

I'd be inclined to agree though, more chance of State of Grace coming out like it is than Rose actually re-doing a vocal.

1 hour ago, CubanSkies Dummy said:

I don't know, man.

For me, is simple. 14 finished songs and release it with Slash and Duff overdubs. And ready to go.

Thought you already knew the album though.  Did you make up those new songs?

[veon]

8 hours ago, Pele said:

The logic that there were 'only' 4-5 songs completed in 2005-2007 is perfectly plausible.

This is a guy who has released ONE album of original material in 30 years - only one of those songs he wrote himself, the others likely consisting of instrumentals written for him (apart from maybe Madagascar).

In fact, I believe it would be unusually busy of him to 'come out of retirement' and record a scattershot of songs.  You seem to imply that he;s doing much more than that.

One album in 30 years.

New singles are 99 demos.

Slash admits no new songs. 

You still think this guy is hoarding unreleased material?

 

Do not try and demonstrate logical thinking by applying Occam's Razor, while behaving like an obsessed schoolgirl chasing a crush that doesn't notice her..

Admitting you'll STILL believe he may have finished material if his next release consists of yet more vocal takes from those tapes suggests you're not thinking straight.

What about all those songs you made up?  Why aren't you listing these anymore?

Casino Night Sky or whatever is about as real as Seven with vocals.

Ooh wee, that was an even, measured response. Re-read my post. I wasn’t implying anything, I’m just pointing out the fact that you don’t know anything.  Only recording 4-5 vocals isn’t implausible, but it’s beyond an open and shut case like you make it out to be. You’re a self-proclaimed non-insider, so we’re both looking at the exact same evidence: virtually none. Aside from the people within the inner circle of the band, no one knows fuck all. However, you run around bloviating like you’re the Czar of GnR fandom and what you say is the last word on the matter of recording completed in the last 25 years. Again, YOU COULD BE RIGHT, but then again so could I (and any other member of this board for that matter). No one knows anything.  

Also, I’m glad you used the 30 years time frame, not 30 years and 3 months or you would’ve had to say 3 albums. Man, could’ve been embarrassing. We mustn’t let facts get in the way of a good narrative.
 

I agree that one of us may resemble a teenager acting without reason, but I’m not sure it’s me. I also think you’re right, Occam’s Razor may not be the best example. I’ll just leave these right here:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_omniscience

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overconfidence_effect#

 

[Pele]

9 hours ago, veon said:

Ooh wee, that was an even, measured response. Re-read my post. I wasn’t implying anything, I’m just pointing out the fact that you don’t know anything.  Only recording 4-5 vocals isn’t implausible, but it’s beyond an open and shut case like you make it out to be. You’re a self-proclaimed non-insider, so we’re both looking at the exact same evidence: virtually none. Aside from the people within the inner circle of the band, no one knows fuck all. However, you run around bloviating like you’re the Czar of GnR fandom and what you say is the last word on the matter of recording completed in the last 25 years. Again, YOU COULD BE RIGHT, but then again so could I (and any other member of this board for that matter). No one knows anything.  

Also, I’m glad you used the 30 years time frame, not 30 years and 3 months or you would’ve had to say 3 albums. Man, could’ve been embarrassing. We mustn’t let facts get in the way of a good narrative.
 

I agree that one of us may resemble a teenager acting without reason, but I’m not sure it’s me. I also think you’re right, Occam’s Razor may not be the best example. I’ll just leave these right here:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_omniscience

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overconfidence_effect#

 

Are you for real here?

You take issue with me pointing out he has released one album of original material in over 30 YEARS because he released Use Your Illusions back in 91 (a lot of it written in the late 80s).

That date was used as the 30 year benchmark - why on earth would I say 'released 3 albums in 30 years and 3 months' 

Stop quoting Occam's Razor while you wait for your imaginary songs.  Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul 

[jamillos]

19 minutes ago, Pele said:

Are you for real here?

You take issue with me pointing out he has released one album of original material in over 30 YEARS because he released Use Your Illusions back in 91 (a lot of it written in the late 80s).

That date was used as the 30 year benchmark - why on earth would I say 'released 3 albums in 30 years and 3 months' 

Stop quoting Occam's Razor while you wait for your imaginary songs.  Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul 

My dude, what was it that happened to you? You might be right, as anyone else might. Saying Axl is lazy/finished and hasn’t written anything in two decades is absolutely legitimate, especially considering the actual release history. But saying this 654 times in every thread, under every post regarding new music, and passing it off as unshakeable facts, now that speaks of fanaticism to me. Zealotry. This is not right, as if something happened to you (probably around 1999), and so you now keep fighting an internal fight, maybe convincing yourself about something, which externally looks like you’re convincing people here of your truths about Axl and his demos. Whatever it was or has been that you’re trying to solve, I wish you good luck. And I’d also wish you that you could see your activity here from a distance, from a height, and how ridiculous it looks when you keep repeating the same stuff – basically a single sentence – for months on. 
In the meantime, thank you for the fun, I have to give you that. 
Same goes to the other one. 

[kingcanyon]

is this still going on take a bit of a break for xmas and it seems to have bolied over if anyone wants to contact vince for this wrestlemania match we spoke about i'll be fine. we just need an old "insider" to be guest ref

[We love Axl Rose]

1 hour ago, kingcanyon said:

is this still going on take a bit of a break for xmas and it seems to have bolied over if anyone wants to contact vince for this wrestlemania match we spoke about i'll be fine. we just need an old "insider" to be guest ref

Axl for guest referee

[SAU3R]

Thank you @Pele and @CubanSkies Dummyfor keeping this thread alive! With your help we‘ll get it to 1000 pages before we even have a new single 

[UYI4]

I’ve almost wondered if they just released the 2 songs that they did due to the leaks.  A bit ironic that of all of the “supposed music” out there that’s “done and ready and was in 2014” that we get these 2 songs that were leaked in 2019 and heard snippets of 20 years ago on one platform or another.  Makes me wonder if what was in the leaks was really all that their is minus 1 or 2 other songs.  The band that made me want to play guitar, and that I held on to for so many years (and still slightly do) to me has become ridiculous and it’s an obvious cash grab and has been.  None of them need the dollars.  Even Slash. I’ve loved it all from appetite to Chinese. All timeless music.  But now simply a nostalgia act in more ways than anything and I think the powers that be more-less know that.  If they cared about releasing more music so much it would have been done long ago. So to me at this point I liked to read about it for entertainment on all of the forums I’ve visited for 20+ years.  Other than that it’s become almost a joke.

[allwaystired]

On 12/25/2021 at 9:25 PM, Majestic Beast said:

I think this band will release a new album,maybe double and then will tour till their death officialy as a band.No more excuses left of delaying years of stuff.

I imagine there are many, many excuses left! 

[Pele]

29 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

I imagine there are many, many excuses left! 

All made by the deluded fanboys.

Rose barely pretends he's got an album in the works anymore - he just doesn't really admit outright he hasn't.

47 minutes ago, UYI4 said:

I’ve almost wondered if they just released the 2 songs that they did due to the leaks.  A bit ironic that of all of the “supposed music” out there that’s “done and ready and was in 2014” that we get these 2 songs that were leaked in 2019 and heard snippets of 20 years ago on one platform or another.  Makes me wonder if what was in the leaks was really all that their is minus 1 or 2 other songs.  The band that made me want to play guitar, and that I held on to for so many years (and still slightly do) to me has become ridiculous and it’s an obvious cash grab and has been.  None of them need the dollars.  Even Slash. I’ve loved it all from appetite to Chinese. All timeless music.  But now simply a nostalgia act in more ways than anything and I think the powers that be more-less know that.  If they cared about releasing more music so much it would have been done long ago. So to me at this point I liked to read about it for entertainment on all of the forums I’ve visited for 20+ years.  Other than that it’s become almost a joke.

Yeah some said it about the album too.  They released the songs that leaked.

 

The reality is he'd be releasing good songs if he had them - simple as that.

[janrichmond]