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Kat Benzova sues GNR/Fernando for copyright infringement and sexual harassment


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On 11/14/2023 at 10:40 AM, SoulMonster said:

Although I tend to go with the "innocent until proven", in cases like this, with so much detail, I find it hard to believe there isn't a burning fire underneath the pillars of smoke. And regardless, the band can't have these accusations over them even if settled outside of court or dismissed, Fernando needs to go regardless. I am like Cesar on this, "Caesar's wife must be above suspicion". Fernando must go.

I think there are patterns of behavior that Fernando has displayed throughout that shows manipulative tendencies. It makes me feel very uncomfortable about the entire TB situation including Beta. Not that they haven’t grown close and built trust over the years, but that their relationship may have been built on manipulation. 

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3 hours ago, DeNfr said:

pneumonia, Jarmo told me.
Axl told the crowd during the first show of her absence

Ok. I was reading into it. 

28 minutes ago, smokingarthur said:

I think there are patterns of behavior that Fernando has displayed throughout that shows manipulative tendencies. It makes me feel very uncomfortable about the entire TB situation including Beta. Not that they haven’t grown close and built trust over the years, but that their relationship may have been built on manipulation. 

I will never forget the time you refused to sale me a single Hammerstien ballroom

ticket because I wouldn’t tell you my CO’s name. 

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48 minutes ago, Silence said:

Ok. I was reading into it. 

I will never forget the time you refused to sale me a single Hammerstien ballroom

ticket because I wouldn’t tell you my CO’s name. 

There must have been an important reason why, I don’t recall the entire situation but I do remember I went to every show and ended up with extra tickets. I think I bought some and got some from my company at the time. At any rate, I don’t know why you would carry a grudge for so many years. If you feel slighted by my behavior back then, I do apologize. 

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1 hour ago, smokingarthur said:

There must have been an important reason why, I don’t recall the entire situation but I do remember I went to every show and ended up with extra tickets. I think I bought some and got some from my company at the time. At any rate, I don’t know why you would carry a grudge for so many years. If you feel slighted by my behavior back then, I do apologize. 

I dont hold a grudge at all. I was just surprised you kept the same handle all these years. Im also surprised we are both here. Lol. We must really love GNR. I apologize for the lack of clarity in previous post. I hope all is well.

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3 hours ago, smokingarthur said:

There must have been an important reason why, I don’t recall the entire situation but I do remember I went to every show and ended up with extra tickets. I think I bought some and got some from my company at the time. At any rate, I don’t know why you would carry a grudge for so many years. If you feel slighted by my behavior back then, I do apologize. 

Wait lol what was the show you were at again where- actually... did you see DJ's first show with the band?  Because if I recall, didn't you say something about seeing, what you described as some kind of like, "Hollywood nightmare" and you said, "I am 100% certain he was on the phone with DJ Ashba."  Haha I always thought your description of the dude was hilarious lol.

 

Semi-related type of story: I was on the same flight with Andrei from LAX to Vegas before the shows at T-Mobile in 16 and I watched him get the phone call from, whoever it was, informing him of Axl's injury.  He looked so shocked and "wtf?!" 

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1 hour ago, Silence said:

I dont hold a grudge at all. I was just surprised you kept the same handle all these years. Im also surprised we are both here. Lol. We must really love GNR. I apologize for the lack of clarity in previous post. I hope all is well.

I stopped being active here a decade ago, I kinda lurk in the shadows, don’t really bother too much anymore. Tried to get back into GNR again with mixed results. Finally getting The General kinda put closure on it for me. 
 

Hope you’re doing well. I’m traveling between NYC and SoFlo these days back and forth. If you’re around drop me a line I’ll buy you a drink…or two… 

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27 minutes ago, there is no dana only zool said:

Wait lol what was the show you were at again where- actually... did you see DJ's first show with the band?  Because if I recall, didn't you say something about seeing, what you described as some kind of like, "Hollywood nightmare" and you said, "I am 100% certain he was on the phone with DJ Ashba."  Haha I always thought your description of the dude was hilarious lol.

 

Semi-related type of story: I was on the same flight with Andrei from LAX to Vegas before the shows at T-Mobile in 16 and I watched him get the phone call from, whoever it was, informing him of Axl's injury.  He looked so shocked and "wtf?!" 

I kinda miss those days, it seemed more exciting, despite the contrived life of DJ Ashba. 

 

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5 hours ago, smokingarthur said:

I think there are patterns of behavior that Fernando has displayed throughout that shows manipulative tendencies. It makes me feel very uncomfortable about the entire TB situation including Beta. Not that they haven’t grown close and built trust over the years, but that their relationship may have been built on manipulation. 

What patterns of manipulative tendencies would that be?

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Any time I come across the name Amber Heard, I always think "heard what?"
(Or Aubrey Plaza – doesn’t it sound like a name of a place?)
Anyway, I think it was her who clearly was the villain of the piece. 

The question here is, what happens in Nando’s case. 

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7 minutes ago, jamillos said:

Any time I come across the name Amber Heard, I always think "heard what?"
(Or Aubrey Plaza – doesn’t it sound like a name of a place?)
Anyway, I think it was her who clearly was the villain of the piece. 

The question here is, what happens in Nando’s case. 

Maybe he pooped in Kat's bed too

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9 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

There's nothing in this link.

It's the Sheila Kennedy story

https://www.thedailybeast.com/axl-rose-sued-over-alleged-1989-rape

 

7 minutes ago, adamsapple said:

Thank you both! I had linked to an Apple News story but it guess it didn’t work the way I had meant. 

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It"s this story first published in the Daily Mail in 2016

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3430098/Former-Penthouse-Pet-Year-live-lover-Bob-Guccione-tells-drugged-Axl-Rose-grabbed-hair-dragged-carpet-tied-hands-sex-said-sorry.html

She also appeared in the "Look Away" documentary.

But she has released a memoir, too, where she tells the story in more detail and some of the details create a slightly different impression compared to what she said in the Daily Mail video. I'll post the book excerpt later.

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The last few pages were totally derailed by Depp/Heard arguments which have nothing to do with this topic. I get that other subjects will be referenced here and there but that was way too much.

I've moved the bulk of the posts here for anyone who wishes to continue that cursed argument. No personal insults please!

No more in this thread. Thanks for your cooperation. 

 

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